JUDGEMENT DAY - THE "BOMBER" 34

[Red and Bluebeard 2,049]

1 hour ago, ManDee said:

So let me get this right, If you fail to keep appropriate paperwork you are disqualified from playing in the finals and fined by the AFL.

If you have been found guilty of taking Performance Enhancing Drugs by the Court of Arbitration for Sport you can keep the Brownlow medal for the AFL Best & Fairest because Robbo thinks the standard of proof if is not acceptable! This is the international body trusted with adjudicating cases over world sport  that has handed down a guilty verdict for using PED's against Jobe Watson during the year he was awarded a Best & Fairest award. The standard of proof is that he was found guilty, that cannot be argued. If Jobe appeals the case and is found not guilty let him keep it, if not take it away from him now. Why is this so hard for the AFL?

I must be missing something.

 

That the AFL don't seem too concerned about minor matters like integrity, common sense, common decency ... 

[Sir Why You Little 35,310]

1 minute ago, monoccular said:

daisy - I am sure that someone the ilk of Dank could offer you a certain cure for such an ailment...and all others   And, all WADA compliant I am sure they would say

Ah   Great that some here are still old enough to to be Python fans   

"fwee Jab "

The AFL may never have considered that their pure, drug free, integrity boosted competition could ever fall foul of WADA or CAS .

Havent had time to dream up their typical "on the run" solution yet  

Kangaroo courts don't generally depend on any consideration of evidence.  They just make up their minds regarding who is charged and who it will effect or upset.   

"BURN HER ANYWAY"...

[Delusional demon 82 1,197]

44 minutes ago, Ted Fidge said:

It's almost like Robbo has been given countermanding orders from the higher-ups at News to fly the flag for Essendon again.

Reminds me of science fiction movies where a robot is given contradictory instructions. "Jobe must hand it b-- must hand it b--...  CANNOT OVERRIDE PRIME OBJECTIVE ... Jobe must keep medal. Jobe must keep medal. Jobe must hand it b---  *sparks fly everywhere* *smoke* *explosion*

And just like Bender this robot too requires copious amounts of alcohol in order to function and talk shite 

[old dee 23,245]

4 minutes ago, Red and Bluebeard said:

That the AFL don't seem too concerned about minor matters like integrity, common sense, common decency ... 

I agree R and B just look at the Martin business if you need any other evidence.

[Red and Bluebeard 2,049]

15 minutes ago, old dee said:

I agree R and B just look at the Martin business if you need any other evidence.

Unfortunately there is no shortage of evidence, OD ...

[daisycutter 28,719]

6 minutes ago, Red and Bluebeard said:

Unfortunately there is no shortage of evidence, OD ...

i'd say it was "beyond reasonable doubt", r&b 

[binman 39,426]

2 hours ago, Choke said:

I heard a pretty straightforward argument the other day on Triple M.

You can't win the Brownlow if you are suspended for any game in the season. Jobe has been retroactively suspended for that year. He is therefore ineligible simply based on that. 

I wonder how Chris Grant would feel if Watson retains his brownlow

[Red and Bluebeard 2,049]

4 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

i'd say it was "beyond reasonable doubt", r&b 

Good call, DC!

[daisycutter 28,719]

2 minutes ago, binman said:

I wonder how Chris Grant would feel if Watson retains his brownlow

was he guilty at the tribunal "beyond reasonable doubt"? 

[H_T 2,941]

1 hour ago, Ted Fidge said:

It's almost like Robbo has been given countermanding orders from the higher-ups at News to fly the flag for Essendon again.

Reminds me of science fiction movies where a robot is given contradictory instructions. "Jobe must hand it b-- must hand it b--...  CANNOT OVERRIDE PRIME OBJECTIVE ... Jobe must keep medal. Jobe must keep medal. Jobe must hand it b---  *sparks fly everywhere* *smoke* *explosion*

Indeed. For Star Wars observers...orders from the dark side using the force...

The Force: "You will write in your next article that you were wrong and that Jobe shall keep his medal..."

Slobbo: "I will write in my next article that I was wrong and that Jobe shall keep his medal..."

The Force: " You shall put us in a positive light from here on in, as chief writer for your paper.."

Slobbo: "I shall put you in a positive light from here on in, as chief writer for my paper."

The Force: "If you want to keep your job, you must obey my instructions. If you want a story to spin, come and see us."

Slobbo: "If I want to keep my job, I must obey your instructions. If I want a story to spin, I will come and see you."

 

The Force: "You will stop slurring your words."

Slobbo: "I will stop slurring my words."

 

The Force: "And pull up your pants"

Slobbo: "Are you serious"

 

 

Slobbo: "I will pull up.....my *cough*....pants."

 

 

 

[binman 39,426]

6 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

was he guilty at the tribunal "beyond reasonable doubt"? 

Copped 1 week for striking Nick Holland and IIRC rightly was dead unlucky to go down. he should have appealed it to CAS. 

Perhaps they should give Jobes medal to Chris

[Sir Why You Little 35,310]

6 minutes ago, H_T said:

Indeed. For Star Wars observers...orders from the dark side using the force...

The Force: "You will write in your next article that you were wrong and that Jobe shall keep his medal..."

Slobbo: "I will write in my next article that I was wrong and that Jobe shall keep his medal..."

The Force: " You shall put us in a positive light from here on in, as chief writer for your paper.."

Slobbo: "I shall put you in a positive light from here on in, as chief writer for my paper."

The Force: "If you want to keep your job, you must obey my instructions. If you want a story to spin, come and see us."

Slobbo: "If I want to keep my job, I must obey your instructions. If I want a story to spin, I will come and see you."

 

The Force: "You will stop slurring your words."

Slobbo: "I will stop slurring my words."

 

The Force: "And pull up your pants"

Slobbo: "Are you serious"

 

 

 

Slobbo: "I will pull up.....my *cough*....pants."

 

 

 

Bahahaha! You send that to the Clown himself HT...Gold!!

"and Pull up your Pants" Hahaha...

[daisycutter 28,719]

8 minutes ago, binman said:

Copped 1 week for striking Nick Holland and IIRC rightly was dead unlucky to go down. he should have appealed it to CAS. 

Perhaps they should give Jobes medal to Chris

great solution........and just up the afl's alley of being too clever by half

[Chris 2,892]

The Australian and Hun reporting the appeal is on with most of the 34 joining in and it is all being funded by the EFC. I would love to what grounds they are appealing on?

Hopefully Melksham sees sense and just takes the 12 months off and doesn't risk the extra year, especially if an injunction isn't granted and he has to sit out this year anyway.

I have a sneaky suspicion that if they do get an injunction and play this year then the booing of Goodes last year will seem like a welcome home celebration in comparison to what these boys will get.

[Lucifers Hero 37,505]

Oh No!!!

SEN have just announced the players WILL appeal.

God knows on what grounds!

If they lose they will get a year and maybe 2

EFC insurers to pay for appeal. 

Essendon insurers set to fund appeal to Federal Supreme Court of Switzerland

As I said in an earlier post - easy to appeal when it someone else's money!

[daisycutter 28,719]

1 hour ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Oh No!!!

SEN have just announced the players WILL appeal.

God knows on what grounds!

If they lose they will get a year and maybe 2

that doesn't mean cas will accept any appeal. still would be another step required before an appeal could go ahead

[Bluey's Dad 3,419]

1 hour ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Oh No!!!

SEN have just announced the players WILL appeal.

God knows on what grounds!

If they lose they will get a year and maybe 2

Surely not.

Which players? All 34? Or NLM's 'splinter' group?

[Chris 2,892]

Here is a pearly of a comment from the delusionals on the Hun site.

"I cannot believe they can be convicted fairly when the standard of proof is 'reasonably satisfied'. This is a complete nonsense.  So without any positive drug tests the body adjudicating the case can 'feel' that the vibe is that they are guilty.  

 

Until the standard of proof is at the very least on the 'balance of probability' (civil jurisdiction) then the AFL must walk away from WADA and the Court of  arbitration for sport."

Edited February 5, 2016 by Chris

[Lucifers Hero 37,505]

2 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

that doesn't mean cas will accept any appeal. still would be another step required before an appeal could go ahead

Good point.  Lets hope not.

2 minutes ago, Choke said:

Surely not.

Which players? All 34? Or NLM's 'splinter' group?

The impression I had is not all 34 will appeal...read all about it in The Australian tomorrow!!  Chip LG scoop.

[SaberFang 7,141]

My God, you idiots! STOP! Wake up, smell the roses, and sue the people RESPONSIBLE for putting you into this whole mess!

Oh, that's right. You can't sue Dank because he has the evidence that proves you were all complicit!

[beelzebub 22,699]

1 minute ago, daisycutter said:

that doesn't mean cas will accept any appeal. still would be another step required before an appeal could go ahead

The appeal will go nowhere.. It will be summarily thrown back in their faces.

Quixote would be impressed though 

[Bluey's Dad 3,419]

Fox Sports AFL: Former Bomber to appeal drug ban

Apparently just NLM:

My favourite excerpt:

"His personal injury and compensation claim against Essendon will be handled by lawyer Tony Nolan, but the AFLPA has told him it will run his appeal without charge. "

So in addition to the CAS appeal, he's suing Essendon!

[beelzebub 22,699]

37 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

i'd say it was "beyond reasonable doubt", r&b 

[Redleg 38,382]

1 hour ago, Choke said:

Fox Sports AFL: Former Bomber to appeal drug ban

Apparently just NLM:

My favourite excerpt:

"His personal injury and compensation claim against Essendon will be handled by lawyer Tony Nolan, but the AFLPA has told him it will run his appeal without charge. "

So in addition to the CAS appeal, he's suing Essendon!

AFLPA have denied they will fund any appeal. Marsh said all costs were covered by Bombers.

[Dr John Dee 1,057]

29 minutes ago, H_T said:

Indeed. For Star Wars observers...orders from the dark side using the force ...

 

The Force: "You will stop slurring your words."

Slobbo: "I will stop slurring my words."

 

 

 

 

Suggested edit: "I will slop stirring my words"

I just don't think Robbo's capable of your too careful script, H_T