Good, now all we need is for the coach to give him the same opportunities that he has given Harmes, Neal-Bullen and others.

Toumpas got a lot of games early in the season.

Uuurrrrhhhhggggg......

Another Doupas mistake Watson?

Toumpas got a lot of games early in the season.

What's your definition of 'a lot'?

He's played 9 games this year, out of 21. That's fewer than half.

What's your definition of 'a lot'?

He's played 9 games this year, out of 21. That's fewer than half.

9 games too many!!!!

What's next? Sign Dawes for 5 years.... pfft!!!

Our game style doesn't suit Toumpas...

Our game style doesn't suit Toumpas...

Then why did the FD sign him up for an extension? It is not as though they haven't been able to assess him for two years!

Our game style doesn't suit Toumpas...

Rubbish. Our game will be based on moving the ball quickly from half back through the corridor or the wings. We need blokes who can kick it. Toumpas can. When Goodwin's more attacking game plan comes into things blokes like Jimmy, who can hit a target, will be vital.

If I had a choice to redo the draft I'd take Stringer, Wines or Macrae in that order. Any one of them would make us a better side.

I also don't reckon Toumpas will make it as a decent player, but I'll back him in. As long as he's a Dees player I'll back him in. Why will I back him in? Because I barrack for the Dees and he plays for them. He's not the best player of his draft, but the Dees aren't the best team in the league either. Doesn't mean I'm going to start wishing I went for the Western Bulldogs, I already have a team and I'll back them in until I get so tired of this crap that I give up on AFL altogether.

The reason why people like that poisonous t.wat picket annoy me so much is because they're not 'supporters', they only barrack for our players if they're dominating and will spend the rest of the time denigrating them and sticking the boot in. That's not being a supporter, you might as well be barracking for the Blues. I can't tell the difference.

The funny thing about living in Adelaide is you can't rag on any of their fringe players, they'll back them in to the hilt no matter how bad they are, and I respect that. I would prefer Picket Fence, WYL and old dee all switched allegiances and gave the Bulldogs hell for only winning a single premiership... ever. You're all toxic and make me want to vomit.

Good luck to the Toump. If nothing else, he seems like an A-grade kid.

Rubbish. Our game will be based on moving the ball quickly from half back through the corridor or the wings. We need blokes who can kick it. Toumpas can. When Goodwin's more attacking game plan comes into things blokes like Jimmy, who can hit a target, will be vital.

We can only hope this is true, but currently our game style is too slow for Toumpas, If you go back to the St Kilda game earlier in the year, which was easily the best game Toumpas has played for us..it was quite a quick game and Toumpas thrived.

If I had a choice to redo the draft I'd take Stringer, Wines or Macrae in that order. Any one of them would make us a better side.

I also don't reckon Toumpas will make it as a decent player, but I'll back him in. As long as he's a Dees player I'll back him in. Why will I back him in? Because I barrack for the Dees and he plays for them. He's not the best player of his draft, but the Dees aren't the best team in the league either. Doesn't mean I'm going to start wishing I went for the Western Bulldogs, I already have a team and I'll back them in until I get so tired of this crap that I give up on AFL altogether.

The reason why people like that poisonous t.wat picket annoy me so much is because they're not 'supporters', they only barrack for our players if they're dominating and will spend the rest of the time denigrating them and sticking the boot in. That's not being a supporter, you might as well be barracking for the Blues. I can't tell the difference.

The funny thing about living in Adelaide is you can't rag on any of their fringe players, they'll back them in to the hilt no matter how bad they are, and I respect that. I would prefer Picket Fence, WYL and old dee all switched allegiances and gave the Bulldogs hell for only winning a single premiership... ever. You're all toxic and make me want to vomit.

Good luck to the Toump. If nothing else, he seems like an A-grade kid.

enjoying the Adelaide water?

Then why did the FD sign him up for an extension? It is not as though they haven't been able to assess him for two years!

I don't know, because all the signs were pointing towards him being delisted...I know he had a concussion in the VFL, but why wasn't he selected ahead of Harmes, Stretch etc...another wasted year from Toumpas and his value has dropped again.

We can only hope this is true, but currently our game style is too slow for Toumpas, If you go back to the St Kilda game earlier in the year, which was easily the best game Toumpas has played for us..it was quite a quick game and Toumpas thrived.

He struggled in our Geelong game, but I think he'll be better when we're moving the ball quicker, we get more uncontested possession and he can run, carry and hit long distant targets. What he needs to learn (as do many others on our list, including the captain) is to take the first option.

He reminds me of a more severe case of young Nathan Jones, who used to get caught all the time, because he didn't take the first option. This is a result of poor coaching from early on in his career. We need to knock this out of him.

Every year he's come back a bit stronger and fitter and worked hard in the preseason. He's still only 21. How many 21 year olds in any sport (besides maybe gymnastics) compete against men? In US sport he'd be still in college. In European soccer leagues he'd be working his way up from lower league or lesser top team.

He can run and kick and he's committed to improving. That alone is worth more time on our list compared to the alternatives.

He struggled in our Geelong game, but I think he'll be better when we're moving the ball quicker, we get more uncontested possession and he can run, carry and hit long distant targets. What he needs to learn (as do many others on our list, including the captain) is to take the first option.

He reminds me of a more severe case of young Nathan Jones, who used to get caught all the time, because he didn't take the first option. This is a result of poor coaching from early on in his career. We need to knock this out of him.

Overall I agree, but first option footy relies upon having the options. We are so short of players who spread, block and know each others tendencies that we can't get a lot of first option footy going.

And sometimes the 5th options is best!

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We need a collective noun. Anyone?

Pickett is a collective noun for strikers: I doubt that there is a collective noun for pickets, other than maybe a fence of pickets, or as many would feel of-fence of Pickett

enjoying the Adelaide water?

Talking about you, not to you.

Overall I agree, but first option footy relies upon having the options.

Sums up a lot of our current woes.

Talking about you, not to you.

thanks mate

Overall I agree, but first option footy relies upon having the options. We are so short of players who spread, block and know each others tendencies that we can't get a lot of first option footy going.

And sometimes the 5th options is best!

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I remember the Geelong game pretty well. I was there and I watched the replay 5 times the following week. Every time Toumpas got the ball in that game, he failed to take the first option. From the outside, it was obvious each time what the first option should have been. He just over-thought it and failed to pull the trigger.

Good signing. Had his best season by far and the club seems to be managing him well. His first two seasons would have been awful for anyone's confidence. He's far too talented and skillful to get rid of. It's a psychological thing with him I think. I've never seen a player get so down on themselves after an error.

I guess that's what happens when you blood a top 5 pick in a team that loses by 148 points.

some of Greek type ethnic heritage, can be extraordinarily harsh on themselves to a destructive level. I assume that Cypriots are very similar?

If I had a choice to redo the draft I'd take Stringer, Wines or Macrae in that order. Any one of them would make us a better side.

This. Any of those players would improve our side significantly. Toumpas can't even improve Casey. He is a massive disappointment.

I think I'm going to back in Roos, Goodwin and the footy department on this one. I'd say they may have a little more experience identifying talent than most of Demonland.

Our game style doesn't suit Toumpas...

...Goodwin's game style will suit him!