2015 apparent out of contract players merged with targets at seasons end

[FireOath 290]

This is the list of the free agents at seasons end. If we are chasing a gun midfielder, there isn't alot on offer from that list. Well that haven't signed already. I would have said Jack Steven but he resigned earlier this year.

Patrick Dangerfield ADEL Restricted

Richard Douglas ADEL Unrestricted

Brodie Martin ADEL Unrestricted

Andy Otten ADEL Unrestricted

Brent Reilly ADEL Unrestricted

Scott Thompson ADEL Unrestricted

Taylor Walker ADEL Re-signed

Jed Adcock BL Unrestricted

Matthew Leuenberger BL Restricted

Dennis Armfield CARL Unrestricted

Andrew Carrazzo CARL Unrestricted

David Ellard CARL Unrestricted

Chris Judd CARL Restricted

Matthew Kreuzer CARL Restricted

Brent Macaffer COLL Unrestricted

Tom Bellchambers ESS Restricted

Courtenay Dempsey ESS Unrestricted

Dustin Fletcher ESS Unrestricted

Tayte Pears ESS Unrestricted

Brent Stanton ESS Unrestricted

Jason Winderlich ESS Unrestricted

Ryan Crowley FRE Unrestricted

Paul Duffield FRE Unrestricted

Michael Johnson FRE Unrestricted

Luke McPharlin FRE Unrestricted

Matthew Pavlich FRE Unrestricted

Aaron Sandilands FRE Unrestricted

Jimmy Bartel GEEL Unrestricted

Corey Enright GEEL Unrestricted

Tom Hawkins GEEL Restricted

Steve Johnson GEEL Unrestricted

James Kelly GEEL Unrestricted

Andrew Mackie GEEL Unrestricted

Dawson Simpson GEEL Unrestricted

Mathew Stokes GEEL Unrestricted

Luke Hodge HAW Re-signed

Sam Mitchell HAW Re-signed

Matthew Suckling HAW Unrestricted

Brendan Whitecross HAW Unrestricted

Colin Garland MELB Restricted

Mark Jamar MELB Unrestricted

Nathan Jones MELB Re-signed

Michael Firrito NM Unrestricted

Nathan Grima NM Unrestricted

Brent Harvey NM Unrestricted

Scott McMahon NM Unrestricted

Drew Petrie NM Unrestricted

Andrew Swallow NM Re-signed

Robbie Tarrant NM Unrestricted

Kane Cornes PORT Unrestricted

Robbie Gray PORT Re-signed

Matthew Lobbe PORT Re-signed

Tom Logan (rookie) PORT Unrestricted

Trent Cotchin RICH Re-signed

Nathan Foley RICH Unrestricted

Newman RICH Unrestricted

Alex Rance RICH Unrestricted

Sean Dempster STK Restricted

Sam Fisher STK Unrestricted

Sam Gilbert STK Restricted

Adam Schneider (rookie) STK Unrestricted

Jack Steven STK Re-signed

Adam Goodes SYD Unrestricted

Heath Grundy SYD Unrestricted

Ted Richards SYD Unrestricted

Sam Butler WCE Unrestricted

Patrick McGinnity WCE Unrestricted

Scott Selwood WCE Restricted

Beau Waters WCE Retired

Matthew Boyd WB Unrestricted

Jarrad Grant WB Unrestricted

Dale Morris WB Unrestricted

Robert Murphy WB Unrestricted

Easton Wood WB Re-signed

[Roost It 1,434]

Dixon and Shiel for our first pick and Howe

[Bitter but optimistic 22,238]

This is the list of the free agents at seasons end. If we are chasing a gun midfielder, there isn't alot on offer from that list. Well that haven't signed already. I would have said Jack Steven but he resigned earlier this year.

Patrick Dangerfield ADEL Restricted

Richard Douglas ADEL Unrestricted

Brodie Martin ADEL Unrestricted

Andy Otten ADEL Unrestricted

Brent Reilly ADEL Unrestricted

Scott Thompson ADEL Unrestricted

Taylor Walker ADEL Re-signed

Jed Adcock BL Unrestricted

Matthew Leuenberger BL Restricted

Dennis Armfield CARL Unrestricted

Andrew Carrazzo CARL Unrestricted

David Ellard CARL Unrestricted

Chris Judd CARL Restricted

Matthew Kreuzer CARL Restricted

Brent Macaffer COLL Unrestricted

Tom Bellchambers ESS Restricted

Courtenay Dempsey ESS Unrestricted

Dustin Fletcher ESS Unrestricted

Tayte Pears ESS Unrestricted

Brent Stanton ESS Unrestricted

Jason Winderlich ESS Unrestricted

Ryan Crowley FRE Unrestricted

Paul Duffield FRE Unrestricted

Michael Johnson FRE Unrestricted

Luke McPharlin FRE Unrestricted

Matthew Pavlich FRE Unrestricted

Aaron Sandilands FRE Unrestricted

Jimmy Bartel GEEL Unrestricted

Corey Enright GEEL Unrestricted

Tom Hawkins GEEL Restricted

Steve Johnson GEEL Unrestricted

James Kelly GEEL Unrestricted

Andrew Mackie GEEL Unrestricted

Dawson Simpson GEEL Unrestricted

Mathew Stokes GEEL Unrestricted

Luke Hodge HAW Re-signed

Sam Mitchell HAW Re-signed

Matthew Suckling HAW Unrestricted

Brendan Whitecross HAW Unrestricted

Colin Garland MELB Restricted

Mark Jamar MELB Unrestricted

Nathan Jones MELB Re-signed

Michael Firrito NM Unrestricted

Nathan Grima NM Unrestricted

Brent Harvey NM Unrestricted

Scott McMahon NM Unrestricted

Drew Petrie NM Unrestricted

Andrew Swallow NM Re-signed

Robbie Tarrant NM Unrestricted

Kane Cornes PORT Unrestricted

Robbie Gray PORT Re-signed

Matthew Lobbe PORT Re-signed

Tom Logan (rookie) PORT Unrestricted

Trent Cotchin RICH Re-signed

Nathan Foley RICH Unrestricted

Newman RICH Unrestricted

Alex Rance RICH Unrestricted

Sean Dempster STK Restricted

Sam Fisher STK Unrestricted

Sam Gilbert STK Restricted

Adam Schneider (rookie) STK Unrestricted

Jack Steven STK Re-signed

Adam Goodes SYD Unrestricted

Heath Grundy SYD Unrestricted

Ted Richards SYD Unrestricted

Sam Butler WCE Unrestricted

Patrick McGinnity WCE Unrestricted

Scott Selwood WCE Restricted

Beau Waters WCE Retired

Matthew Boyd WB Unrestricted

Jarrad Grant WB Unrestricted

Dale Morris WB Unrestricted

Robert Murphy WB Unrestricted

Easton Wood WB Re-signed

Settle down Barra!

[Adam The God 30,221]

Dixon and Shiel for our first pick and Howe

All day, every day.

[Ted Lasso 19,511]

Dawson Simpson anyone?

[Machsy 2,858]

Dawson Simpson anyone?

Nope.

Big lump of a lad, jesus freak, serial idiot, average tap ruckman, can't get a touch around the ground.

We already have one Jake Spencer.

[Machsy 2,858]

Oh & his papers are already signed at Geelong & he knows it.

Dixon and Shiel for our first pick and Howe

Fair achievement with them playing for different clubs...

[jabberwocky 2,301]

If we were inclined to throw bags of money at someone I hope it would be Dylan Shiel

[dee-luded 2,959]

Does anyone think Ty Vickery could be a pure ruckman?

yes, I do.

Ty was an excellent follower styled ruck in the U-18's

.... IMO now he seems to be maturing & gaining in confidence, he can further develop into that senior ruckman follower.

[Ted Lasso 19,511]

Thanks machsy, didn't really know much about him besides he's a big unit, really think a good ruckman should be close to the top of our priorities

[Adam The God 30,221]

Thanks machsy, didn't really know much about him besides he's a big unit, really think a good ruckman should be close to the top of our priorities

I can see why you want to sort our ruck stocks, mate, but midfield has to be the priority. It's still a C grade one at best. We need mids. Edited May 11, 2015 by AdamFarr

[Ted Lasso 19,511]

I just think our mid will improve with natural progression, add Viney, Salem a fit Trengove and petracca in there with another pre season and it might be a totally different midfield

Jones, vince, lamumba, cross, Viney, Trengove, Tyson, Salem, Toumpas, stretch, petracca, vandenberg,

There is some talent there, just need guys like Trengove and Toumpas to capture some good form

Would love to add Dylan Shiel, Mathew leuenberger, Scott Selwood and Charlie Dixon to the list over the off season.

[CBDees 3,167]

I just think our mid will improve with natural progression, add Viney, Salem a fit Trengove and petracca in there with another pre season and it might be a totally different midfield

Jones, vince, lamumba, cross, Viney, Trengove, Tyson, Salem, Toumpas, stretch, petracca, vandenberg,

There is some talent there, just need guys like Trengove and Toumpas to capture some good form

Would love to add Dylan Shiel, Mathew leuenberger, Scott Selwood and Charlie Dixon to the list over the off season.

You missed Brayshaw from your midfield.

[Ted Lasso 19,511]

Oops, add the future skipper in there too

[picket fence 17,145]

Hnmm Stef Martin was sensational yesterday!

Why the hell did we................................ ????

[Deespicable 2,726]

I know it's very early, but it's already apparent that we're lacking in certain areas. Most notably in my opinion the ruck, midfield depth, run from half back and spread in general. So i thought i'd start this thread to list certain targets for areas i think need to be addressed.

RUCK

Daniel Gorringe: Down the pecking order at GC who have internal issues. Wanted out last year but was shafted by Port and the Crows now have Jacobs and Lowden. Was an early draft pick and could come on like Longer has at the Saints.

Cost - Possibly something like Toumpas to Crows with their 2nd round pick to GC?

Matthew Leunberger: Dominant ruckman when fit but is injury plauged. Fallen behind Martin as 1st choice ruckman with Lions and may seek more a new home.

Cost - Free agent so cost is zero. Orig from WA so reckon Freo may be in the market for him also with Sandilands not likely to go on forever.

Will Minson: Good aggressive ruckman who is being edged out by Beveridge looking to push Cordy's development. Would only be a stop gap solution for about 2 years max while we develop someone else, but could be useful.

Cost - Is contracted so not sure what we'd have to give up? Bulldogs lack talls at both ends so maybe Fitz or Pedo with a late pick?

Daniel Currie: Dominant state league ruckman who is on North's list and starved of opportunities behind Goldstein and Daw. Could well be worth a look.

Cost - Given the lack of games North have given him, they'd be hard pressed to ask anything more then a 4th round pick.

MIDFIELDER:

Dylan Shiel/Adam Treloar: Obviously there's rumors about these two leaving GWS and would live either one. Both hard at it and spread really well which we need. Would favour Shiel slightly due to his ability to break the lines, but would be wrapt with either.

Cost - Probably something like Howe & our 1st round pick, or possibly given their lack of ruck depth after Mummy we could give them Gawn and our first two picks with a later pick coming back.

James Aish: Looks certain to leave and not sure where we sit in the race for his services. Not a line breaker, but certainly runs hard and will help with our spread. We have a lot of SA kids on the list who would have played with him, so they need to get in his ear.

Cost - Our 1st round pick should do it.

Ben Kennedy

Very talented fast midfielder/forward who has fallen behind some other good kids that Collingwood are putting together. Is small, but can break the lines and use it well. Same as Aish is a SA kid so hopefully that could help?

Cost - Being Collingwood who knows? Maybe if we swap our 1st & 2nd round picks with theirs that could do it? Or maybe Watts and our 2nd round pick?

Dion Prestia

Given Gold Coasts issues it wont hurt asking the question as unlikely as it would be. Brilliant young midfielder who runs hard and will help with spread.

Cost - Given the issues with some of their players they may be after small forwards. Our 1st round pick & Kennedy-Harris could do it.

Andrew Gaff

Question marks over his ability to deal with a tag, but runs hard and very good on the outside which we need.

Cost - 1st round pick and maybe Fitz given their neef for more tall defenders.

RUNNING HALF BACKS:

Zak Jones

Think we made noise in the offseason gone that we'd chase him. Again runs hard and is hard at it. Not sure on what his disposal is like?

Cost - Hard to say? Maybe Grimes and our 2nd round pick?

Nathan Wright

Similar to Zak Jones and can't get a consistant run with Saints. Disposal not brilliant, but works hard and runs fast.

Cost - 3rd or 2nd round pick max!

Interesred to hear what/who others think we should look at?

Good effort young fella and pleasing to see that you actually have realised that we have to give up a fair bit - unlike some posters who think we can trade easily.

Under Roosy the keys are big-bodied midfielders who tackle and have good kicking skills.

He also likes quick players and I suspect he will look for a mobile forward/ruck project this season assuming Jamar retires.

We just have to hope that someone is disenchanted and that generally means they are not playing much, if at all - so the dream lists of gun players at other clubs are just that - dreams.

Having said that I'm sure Roosy would love to get his hands on Dylan Shiel - but there will be a big queue if he doesn't sign up with GWS.

One advantage we have is that Dom and Sam Frost help our chances of getting in the heads of a GWS player.

I also reckon we will be working overtime on delisted free agents and trying to unearth someone like Newton who is out of favour.

Don't be too surprised if we bring in one more veteran as well - someone like Nathan Van Berlo who assumes a bit of the Crossy role.

Our best recruit next year will however be Petracca

[DistrACTION Jackson 8,724]

The way I see it we have two outcomes come trading time. We are able to lure one of Treloar or Shiel to the Dees and will likely give up our first pick plus Howe for a pick in return.

Or we are unsuccessful of landing one of those two and have to resort to free agency, maybe chase Scott Selwood or a DFA and then use our high pick on another kid.

Fingers crossed we land one of the GWS boys.

[Ted Lasso 19,511]

We had a massive crack at Scott Selwood the year we got Tyson, west coast refused to deal though, perhaps the same deal is on the table for him if he wants to come as a free agent

I feel like the appointment of McCartney and the way the list is shaping we may well look to the draft anyway

[Wiseblood 24,637]

Would Jed Adcock be worth a look? Might be keen for a change of scenery and might not cost too much to get either. Stick him on a back flank and release Salem into the midfield in 2016...?

[DistrACTION Jackson 8,724]

We had a massive crack at Scott Selwood the year we got Tyson, west coast refused to deal though, perhaps the same deal is on the table for him if he wants to come as a free agent

I feel like the appointment of McCartney and the way the list is shaping we may well look to the draft anyway

Yeah if we could get Selwood as a FA and another quality young mid draft pick that would be a win.

[rjay 24,917]

I can see why you want to sort our ruck stocks, mate, but midfield has to be the priority. It's still a C grade one at best. We need mids.

A good ruckman is a mid 'Adam' and must be a priority. For our midfield to improve we need to be evenly matched and at the moment we are one down as soon as the ball is tapped in the centre bounce.

We are often playing 3 v 4 at centre bounces, 17 v 18 in general play.

[Ethan Tremblay 30,856]

yes, I do.

Ty was an excellent follower styled ruck in the U-18's

.... IMO now he seems to be maturing & gaining in confidence, he can further develop into that senior ruckman follower.

Do you know who Ty Vickory is or are you pulling the [censored]?

He's played one senior game this year and had 9 disposals.

[The Devil Inside 2,147]

Some must drink a lot when posting on here, first of all we have Leuie from Brisbane and then Vickery from Richmond, we have a really good young ruck in King, another pre season into him and he will have a bit more size, Spencer has next year on his contract as well, so he will be playing next year as well, Roos gave it to him, I am so glad nobody on here has any say in the trading or delisting etc

[The Devil Inside 2,147]

Would Jed Adcock be worth a look? Might be keen for a change of scenery and might not cost too much to get either. Stick him on a back flank and release Salem into the midfield in 2016...?

Salem absolutely loves playing on the half back flank, and he is good there and will get even better, we will have a bigger and stronger Petracca to put into the midfield next year

Edited May 11, 2015 by The Devil Inside

[What 18,810]

Some must drink a lot when posting on here, first of all we have Leuie from Brisbane and then Vickery from Richmond, we have a really good young ruck in King, another pre season into him and he will have a bit more size, Spencer has next year on his contract as well, so he will be playing next year as well, Roos gave it to him, I am so glad nobody on here has any say in the trading or delisting etc

This post just shows how much we do need a real ruckman since you want us to rely on Jake Spencer and a raw, unproven Max King