Opinion anyone?

I doubt those Carlton supporters got evicted for booing. Racsism is alive at the footy and it's guys like Goodes who will help stop it.

  On 29/05/2015 at 11:22, picket fence said:

Opinion anyone?

Jimmy Toumpas would have done a better war dance than Goodes, Trengove as well.

Adam Goodes gets continually/regularly booed because he is an arrogant, self centred [censored]. NOT because he is of indigenous heritage. If he was caucasian the boos would remain the same.

  On 29/05/2015 at 11:34, The Song Formerly Known As said:

Adam Goodes gets continually/regularly booed because he is an arrogant, self centred [censored]. NOT because he is of indigenous heritage. If he was caucasian the boos would remain the same.

Come on Song, that's just not true. So I guess calling Goodes a monkey or King Kong isn't racist? Regardless of what people think of the incident with the 13 yr old girl, the boos are definitely related to that. Or should he just suck it up and accept the racist insults, like generations of Indigenous footballers?

  On 29/05/2015 at 11:41, Moonshadow said:

Come on Song, that's just not true. So I guess calling Goodes a monkey or King Kong isn't racist? Regardless of what people think of the incident with the 13 yr old girl, the boos are definitely related to that. Or should he just suck it up and accept the racist insults, like generations of Indigenous footballers?

You are implying that every single boo he receives, which is literally thousands, are all directed at him because of his race?! Rubbish. Some, perhaps. Most, no. So i guess Ballentine gets booed because he is white? Same with Crowley etc.

Plenty of other indigenous players playing tonight, Yarran, Jetta etc. Are they being booed? No.

  On 29/05/2015 at 11:41, Moonshadow said:

Come on Song, that's just not true. So I guess calling Goodes a monkey or King Kong isn't racist? Regardless of what people think of the incident with the 13 yr old girl, the boos are definitely related to that. Or should he just suck it up and accept the racist insults, like generations of Indigenous footballers?

As a kid I had big ears and people called me a monkey.

Is that racist or it doesn't apply because I'm Caucasian?

Dunstall gets called the Gorilla. No one blinks an eye.

  On 29/05/2015 at 11:45, Ethan Tremblay said:

As a kid I had big ears and people called me a monkey.

Is that racist or it doesn't apply because I'm Caucasian?

Dunstall gets called the Gorilla. No one blinks an eye.

And I get called a pervert - can't work it out!

I haven't been much of a fan of Goodes since I was at a game at the SCG and he snotted Simon Godfrey behind play. I'm also not much of a fan footballers, actors and other "celebrities" becoming Australians of the Year. But that isn't his fault

As for the war dance, it seems fairly provocative at first glance and people will no doubt have differing opinions but it would be good to wait to find out the circumstances that prompted it.

Great player. Wish we could dig up someone with his talent. He walks the walk and don't care about the talk.

  On 29/05/2015 at 11:45, Ethan Tremblay said:

As a kid I had big ears and people called me a monkey.

Is that racist or it doesn't apply because I'm Caucasian?

Dunstall gets called the Gorilla. No one blinks an eye.

I suspect neither you nor Dunstall have been subject to systematic racism throughout your whole life.

It's no coincidence that it's always the white, heterosexual males who say things like this.

  On 29/05/2015 at 11:46, Bitter but optimistic said:

And I get called a pervert - can't work it out!

Racist the lot of them.

https://twitter.com/melindayasso/status/604250127121809408

Not sure that link will work, but it sums up my thought exactly. There's has been so many people this week saying the boos are because he was chosen as Australian of the Year and dared to use that platform to bring attention to indigenous issues/concerns. They obviously are happy to be amazed and entertained by indigenous players on the sporting field, but don't want those same people to get a voice and talk about indigenous problems.

I just don't buy it is because of anything he's done or continues to do n the footy field. The game is full of players who play unpopular footy (playing for frees etc), and they get booed occasionally , but the booing of Goodes is at entirely a new level.

And people saying he shouldn't have picked on a 13 year old girl, seriously? He reacted to racist abuse and would have had no way to know anything about the person saying it. 13 years old in no excuse any way.

All sorts of very good reasons why the booing might possibly not be because he's Aboriginal.

Of course it's not about race. It's never about race.

I haven't followed the Goodes stuff that closely, but who was it that first asserted the booing was race-related and what was the rationale? Unless it is well-founded, I fear there is an element of racism from the person claiming it. Ie. "Adam Goodes is indigenous, thus he is 'different', thus the crowd must have interpreted him as different, hence the booing". It is bizarre logic that I can't believe has gained traction in 2015.

If, say, 5000 Hawks supporters were booing him, maybe 50-100 neanderthals might have been doing so with a racially motivated bent. It's not acceptable, but not illustrative of everyone's motivation. I recall booing him a decade or more ago after he destroyed a Melbourne player from behind in a marking contest in a very poor act. I'd like to think booing is directed due to on-field behaviour but I guess there is no code of conduct for this.

As for tonight, I'll wait to see what comes out in the interview wash-up. Indigenous war dance in indigenous round - classic, go for it. Directing aggressive behaviour towards opposing fans just invites abuse though, and I would expect that if someone does that, they would anticipate and enjoy to an extent the vitriol that comes their way afterwards. Again, I'll wait for the wash-up. Who knows what's been said over the other side of the fence prior to it.

  On 29/05/2015 at 11:50, Ethan Tremblay said:

Racist the lot of them.

Well actually I am a pervert Ethan. Have to fess up sometime.

  On 29/05/2015 at 11:49, Nasher said:

I suspect neither you nor Dunstall have been subject to systematic racism throughout your whole life.

It's no coincidence that it's always the white, heterosexual males who say things like this.

Actually, I worked in Halls Creek for 2 years. I got spat on walking to work, house spray painted and called a white "C" almost daily.

But of course Nasher, that's not racist.

(And I'm gay).

Plays for frees, and is a protected species. Whinges to umpires constantly. Has been a sniper in the past.

Couldn't give a damn what his race is. He seems like a [censored] so I will boo him regardless.

The fact that riled up the crowd intentionally should be reportable, in my opinion. In soccer if a player does that they'll get a yellow card. Deserves a fine, at least.

  On 29/05/2015 at 11:49, america de cali said:

Great player. Wish we could dig up someone with his talent. He walks the walk and don't care about the talk.

Yep. Those goals he kicked in the 2012 GF on one leg were quite special...

I have never even considered booing Goodes...

  On 29/05/2015 at 11:45, Ethan Tremblay said:

As a kid I had big ears and people called me a monkey.

Is that racist or it doesn't apply because I'm Caucasian?

Dunstall gets called the Gorilla. No one blinks an eye.

Completely different with completely different connotations. Calling Goodes a monkey is racist due to the history of the word for the Indigenous community, that doesn't exist for the White fellas.

I don't buy that he is boos because he is arrogant etc, he is booed because people don't agree with him calling out the young girl and his stance for reconciliation. I don't agree with all he says, but he has the right to say it and to boo him for this wreaks of racial undertones, if not overtones! Essentially you are booing him because he stands up to racism!

  On 29/05/2015 at 11:52, Bitter but optimistic said:

Well actually I am a pervert Ethan. Have to fess up sometime.

Perverts always look at things from a different angle.

  On 29/05/2015 at 11:45, Ethan Tremblay said:

As a kid I had big ears and people called me a monkey.

Is that racist or it doesn't apply because I'm Caucasian?

Dunstall gets called the Gorilla. No one blinks an eye.

Are you that ignorant that you do not know that the term monkey when used against a black person is a derogatory and racist remark?

Have you been living in a bubble all your life Ethan?

Indigenous round... Indigenous dance. What's the problem?

I'd rather have beer with Goodes than Fence.

  On 29/05/2015 at 11:52, Ethan Tremblay said:

Actually, I worked in Halls Creek for 2 years. I got spat on walking to work, house spray painted and called a white "C" almost daily.

But of course Nasher, that's not racist.

(And I'm gay).

i have been to Halls Creek

And yes it is a heavy vibe out there.

  On 29/05/2015 at 11:52, Ethan Tremblay said:

Actually, I worked in Halls Creek for 2 years. I got spat on walking to work, house spray painted and called a white "C" almost daily.

But of course Nasher, that's not racist.

Of course it's racist, but it's not systematic, nor is it your whole life.