Delistings/trades at end of the season

[What 18,810]

  On 07/07/2015 at 23:30, Machsy said:

I heard Mark Robinson saying that Prestia might be angling for a move away from GC, and that with a year on his contract he may even use the "unsafe workplace" argument in relation to the club drug culture.

No destinations were specified, but I bet his family would be angling pretty hard to get him to MFC.

My biggest worry is list balance. We simply can't have too many small mids.

Hopefully Tyson, Vanders, Petracca & Brayshaw provide enough size.

wow I just looked Prestia up on Footywire and hes listed at 175 cm.. had no idea he was that short

Good player and a ball magnet, but I wouldn't give our first pick for him

[The Song Formerly Known As 6,479]

  On 08/07/2015 at 00:36, hogans_heroes said:

wow I just looked Prestia up on Footywire and hes listed at 175 cm.. had no idea he was that short

Good player and a ball magnet, but I wouldn't give our first pick for him

awesome, that means that you would have also seen that he has been averaging 25+ possessions a game since 2013

However i wouldn't been offering our pick 5 (currently) for him. But a later pick, plus a Howe...etc.

Edited July 8, 2015 by The Song Formerly Known As

[Moonshadow 17,678]

  On 08/07/2015 at 00:36, hogans_heroes said:

wow I just looked Prestia up on Footywire and hes listed at 175 cm.. had no idea he was that short

Good player and a ball magnet, but I wouldn't give our first pick for him

His disposal averages and other stats over the last 3 years indicate how good he is. Prestia is a gun, 22 yrs old with 70-odd games, has another 8-10 years to play. Would give our first pick for him in a heartbeat.

[dazzledavey36 56,232]

  On 08/07/2015 at 00:36, hogans_heroes said:

wow I just looked Prestia up on Footywire and hes listed at 175 cm.. had no idea he was that short

Good player and a ball magnet, but I wouldn't give our first pick for him

Your kidding yourself if you wouldn't give up a first round draft pick for him.

[rpfc 28,999]

Good lord, if Prestia is available and we don't offer ND5 I would be disappointed.

If we had a talent like that and someone offered ND25 and the right to overpay Howe - what would you say?

Think before you post.

[What 18,810]

  On 08/07/2015 at 00:54, Moonshadow said:

His disposal averages and other stats over the last 3 years indicate how good he is. Prestia is a gun, 22 yrs old with 70-odd games, has another 8-10 years to play. Would give our first pick for him in a heartbeat.

He gets a lot of the ball but his impact on games is questionable. Doesn't kick goals and his disposal effectiveness is absolutely terrible

You'd have to be insane to want to give up pick 5 or 6 for him

[dazzledavey36 56,232]

  On 08/07/2015 at 01:02, hogans_heroes said:

He gets a lot of the ball but his impact on games is questionable. Doesn't kick goals and his disposal effectiveness is absolutely terrible

You'd have to be insane to want to give up pick 5 or 6 for him

You must not rate Jack Viney then?

[ChaserJ 5,192]

  On 08/07/2015 at 01:02, hogans_heroes said:

He gets a lot of the ball but his impact on games is questionable. Doesn't kick goals and his disposal effectiveness is absolutely terrible

You'd have to be insane to want to give up pick 5 or 6 for him

Can't agree. Prestia wins most of his ball on the inside , which has affected his DE stats, but has a thumping kick.

Can go outside too, but GCS have been light on for inside mids, so Prestia has exclusively played inside. His burst speed is very good.

Hasn't kicked a lot of goals, but has kicked important ones for GC (is a better kick on the run than set shot though).

Prestia's probably been the Sun's second best mid over the last three years, and one of the few that stepped up in Gary's absence last year.

Don't worry too much about his height. It was supposed to see him drop in his draft year, but he still went at pick 9 and has been one of the best performed players of the 2010 draft class. If anything, his value might have appreciated, or at worst held. Certainly has not depreciated.

Edited July 8, 2015 by ChaserJ

[dazzledavey36 56,232]

  On 08/07/2015 at 01:15, ChaserJ said:

Can't agree. Prestia wins most of his ball on the inside , which has affected his DE stats, but has a thumping kick.

Can go outside too, but GCS have been light on for inside mids, so Prestia has exclusively played inside. His burst speed is very good.

Hasn't kicked a lot of goals, but has kicked important ones for GC (is a better kick on the run than set shot though).

Prestia's probably been the Sun's second best mid over the last three years, and one of the few that stepped up in Gary's absence last year.

Don't worry too much about his height. It was supposed to see him drop in his draft year, but he still went at pick 9 and has been one of the best performed players of the 2010 draft class. If anything, his value might have appreciated, or at worst held. Certainly has not depreciated.

He was also averaging 27 disposals this year before injury. Thats more then any player on our list.

If we picked him up Nathan Jones would be the happiest man in the world. He would take a huge work load off his shoulders and more attention and tagging would go into prestia.

Edited July 8, 2015 by dazzledavey36

[Little Richard 6,265]

  On 08/07/2015 at 01:02, hogans_heroes said:

He gets a lot of the ball but his impact on games is questionable. Doesn't kick goals and his disposal effectiveness is absolutely terrible

You'd have to be insane to want to give up pick 5 or 6 for him

You definitely would not have to be insane.

He's a very good footballer and ferocious tackler. I would give up that pick in a heartbeat, however he wouldn't be my first choice to trade out for.

[What 18,810]

  On 08/07/2015 at 01:15, dazzledavey36 said:

You must not rate Jack Viney then?

I rate Viney, and I rate Prestia. They are both tough hard players who punch above their weight and give their all.

Bur no club in the league would give up pick 5 for either of them.

id love Prestia at the MFC just not for that price. Could get much better players with pick 5.

[Ted Lasso 19,586]

I think dion will be a demon in 2016.

When he was injured hh he was averaging ariund 26 touches 5 tackles and number one in the comp for clearances, id happily hand over our first pick, especially given he is still so young

Edited July 8, 2015 by Sir Paul Roos

[Adam The God 30,703]

Lol list balance. I get what you're saying mate, but Prestia averages high 20s in disposals and is quick. His disposal averages have risen every season he's played. Someone that can win that much of the ball at this level and shows obvious leadership qualities would add a great deal to our team and midfield. Would give up our first rounder every day of the week.

[Devil is in the Detail 883]

  On 08/07/2015 at 01:27, Sir Paul Roos said:

I think dion will be a demon in 2016.

When he was injured hh he was averaging ariund 26 touches 5 tackles and number one in the comp for clearances, id happily hand over our first pick, especially given he is still so young

[Bluey's Dad 3,419]

From a list management perspective, it's not like getting Prestia precludes us from getting another tall midfielder unless there is one available at that price range.

We got out last one from the rookie draft, and he's working out really well.

I see nothing wrong with ND5 for Prestia and a separate trade/draft/rookie draft for another vanDenberg if we can find one.

[Little Richard 6,265]

  On 08/07/2015 at 01:56, Choke said:

From a list management perspective, it's not like getting Prestia precludes us from getting another tall midfielder unless there is one available at that price range.

We got out last one from the rookie draft, and he's working out really well.

I see nothing wrong with ND5 for Prestia and a separate trade/draft/rookie draft for another vanDenberg if we can find one.

[Adam The God 30,703]

  On 08/07/2015 at 01:55, Devil is in the Detail said:

SAUCE

[Devil is in the Detail 883]

  On 08/07/2015 at 02:05, AdamFarr said:

SPR is very well connected.

I realise this. he as had some very good information on this forum before.

Just what a little taste of what he knows.

[Dr. Gonzo 24,466]

  On 08/07/2015 at 00:27, Uncle Fester said:

Dealing with Essendon is always like pulling teeth at the best of times.I say let them whither on the vine and see if we can get a good (non druggie) player in the aftermath.

Looked what happened last year with Ryder/Port. Where there's a will there's a way, especially if Zaharakis can pull the "safe work environment" that Ryder did.

BTW Zaharakis is not one of their 34 druggies.

Edited July 8, 2015 by Dr. Gonzo

[Little Richard 6,265]

  On 08/07/2015 at 02:20, Dr. Gonzo said:

Looked what happened last year with Ryder/Port. Where there's a will there's a way, especially if Zaharakis can pull the "safe work environment" that Ryder did.

Don't think Zaharakis will be going anywhere IMO. He supported Essendon as a kid and is essentially their big hope in the midfield. They'll have cash to pay him.

Has he shown any signs of discontent or said anything?

Edited July 8, 2015 by Django

[Dr. Gonzo 24,466]

How could anyone not be discontent with what has gone on there for the last 3 years especially if half his team-mates get suspended for a year or two.

[Bombay Airconditioning 6,489]

Can we add Grimes into that deal with Howe. Apperently the Suns are void of leadership.

[ManDee 7,387]

  On 08/07/2015 at 01:21, hogans_heroes said:

I rate Viney, and I rate Prestia. They are both tough hard players who punch above their weight and give their all.

Bur no club in the league would give up pick 5 for either of them.

id love Prestia at the MFC just not for that price. Could get much better players with pick 5.

Recent pick 5's 2012 back

2012 Jake Stringer

2011 Mathew Buntine

2010 Jared Polec

2009 Ben Cunnington

2008 Michael Hurley

2007 Jarrad Grant

I think I'd take Prestia. Small players can be effective, think Boomer Harvey.

[Machsy 2,858]

  On 07/07/2015 at 23:33, DemonAndrew said:

we need players who can see ball, get ball, use ball.

if if he can get over his knee injury without any major concerns - and it's a big IF at this stage, as apparently it was a pretty nasty one - then we'd be mad not to chase prestia.

in terms of targetting players from the northern clubs, prestia and treloar would be top tier, dixon, bennell and josh kelly next, and then the likes of plowman (richmond want him), tomlinson, leuenberger (again, tigers into him in a big way apparently), lonergan, et al.

Tigers want everyone.

It's a sound strategy for them though, going for more mature talent, in a year when their earliest picks are likely to yield lesser talent than most years.

Not sure they have the resources to pull many trades off though.

Berger wouldn't surprise, with Maric getting on & not much decent ruck depth.

[ChaserJ 5,192]

  On 08/07/2015 at 01:27, Sir Paul Roos said:

I think dion will be a demon in 2016.

Can't help but think of Garry Lyon's 'big call for 2015' when Classified returned this year.

Along the lines of one of the Sun's stars would become a Demon (he might have mumbled Prestia when pressed by Hutchy).