hes barely holding on to his spot

Same thing, really, as saying he should be dropped, and equally as incorrect.

Same thing, really, as saying he should be dropped, and equally as incorrect.

No, not the same thing at all. And its 100% right.

could be a 4th forced change, Not buying that Viv was out of gas late in the game, the bloke with his shirt of could have lapped him.

Give me Grimes McKenzie Riley,not much in the cupboard after that maybe Pedo ( could upset the balance ).

We would win a lot more without Watts. He is a passenger. We play one man down with his output.

FD, you are a genius, you obviously know more than Roos and the entire footy department. Why are we wasting our money on them? We should put you in charge. hahahahahhahahha. You crack me up.

Toumpas was ok, as you didn't see him against Footscray you are going on people's opinions and the general consensus was ok not immediate recall

Minson needed a wake up call and he certainly performed for Footscray as did Goodes who is also trying to force his way back in

Spencer has been in the best six now for about 4 weeks including the practice games, so following your theory he should get a call up

Wrong, you promote a player that gives you the best opportunity to win. I don't care if Spencer is in Casey's best players 20 weeks in a row, he doesn't come in unless Jamar is injured. And you're missing the point on Minson. The Dogs smashed the Crows despite getting killed in the hitouts. An additional mid offers more than anything that Spencer brings at AFL level.

I think HL might be a good choice to run with Fyfe. Has the speed and leap and he will be around the contest a lot more than the last fortnight

WE'RE A CHANCE, DAMMIT!

Remember the game at the G against Freo all those years ago when we were 52pts or something down at halftime and came back......can dream cant we...

Wrong, you promote a player that gives you the best opportunity to win. I don't care if Spencer is in Casey's best players 20 weeks in a row, he doesn't come in unless Jamar is injured. And you're missing the point on Minson. The Dogs smashed the Crows despite getting killed in the hitouts. An additional mid offers more than anything that Spencer brings at AFL level.

I'm going to training on Friday, if you are not there I will make sure I pass on your instructions to Roosy and Justin Plapp (who disagrees with your assessment of Riley and Spencer by the way, so he must be wrong)

And following your logic, even though I think Toump will eventually be a player, at the moment he is not the player who gives us an opportunity to win, Plapp agrees with me again, so he is wrong again

Does everybody realise that the Freo game will be Watts' 100th, (that's unless Frosty Demon nobbles him between now and Sunday)

edit added Demon in case rumour of issue between Sam Frost and Watts started

No, not the same thing at all. And its 100% right.

Barely holding onto his spot?

100% wrong.

We would win a lot more without Watts. He is a passenger. We play one man down with his output.

For [censored] sake, why don't you just go and sit in a corner somewhere and thaw out. Your broken record approach has become beyond boring and is no more justified than when you first stated Watts should be demoted.

I'm going to training on Friday, if you are not there I will make sure I pass on your instructions to Roosy and Justin Plapp (who disagrees with your assessment of Riley and Spencer by the way, so he must be wrong)

And following your logic, even though I think Toump will eventually be a player, at the moment he is not the player who gives us an opportunity to win, Plapp agrees with me again, so he is wrong again

Show me an extract from Plapp which says that Riley will be able to impact at AFL level, and Spencer will play alongside Jamar. Here's a quote from Plapp about Spencer after the Dogs game:

"Spence has had a really strong month at VFL level and he’s just now waiting for an opportunity to present itself at AFL level."

As we've seen over the past 8 years, just because someone is getting a game at Melbourne doesn't mean that they can impact an AFL game.

As a poster has previously said, with a mounting injury list over ther past couple of weeks and with a couple of sore bodies in Tyson and Michie who may also pull out, the blokes who come in will change the side significantly. Not for the better.

Freo have a full strength side and with Walters and Ballantyne playing, the loss of Jetta is huge. As is Kent for our forward pressuring ability and speed.

It might get ugly this one.

Don't really care about the ins at this stage. More concerned about how long the 'outs' will be out for.

Dockers lost to the Saints by 10 goals at Etihad in R18 last year

We have been playing excellent footy in parts

We have injuries but our top 10-15 will all be out there

We love the G and having the crowd on our side ala R1

Absolutely in the contest

Dockers lost to the Saints by 10 goals at Etihad in R18 last year

We have been playing excellent footy in parts

We have injuries but our top 10-15 will all be out there

We love the G and having the crowd on our side ala R1

Absolutely in the contest

Pretty sure thats when the Freo side was firmly in the top 4 and also brought over Peel Thunder dressed as Dockers.

Not exactly the same comparison to the same side we'll be playing this weekend.

I know we are still beaming from Friday night, but i thought i'd get down to business early.

Big test to see how our new look team goes against the current in form/best team in the competition.

We have a few outs, and i think they are virtually full strength, so it will be a big, big challenge!

Vince to tag Fyfe.

Dont know if Bernie will go with Fyffe,

But the challenge will suit us,freo are not playing from the "back" as much as past seasons and this could help us get over their midfield,as PR is still teaching our blokes to play from deep back and take away midfeild strength of opposition..

Looking forward to see if we can stay 4 quarters with this attack and take the scoring only to our limit and not theirs.

This game has a sense of damage limitation about it, as long as we don't disgrace ourselves and our "ins" play their role I'll be happy. I want no more glimpses of our crappy past. We must keep the holly one happy.

Pretty sure thats when the Freo side was firmly in the top 4 and also brought over Peel Thunder dressed as Dockers.

Not exactly the same comparison to the same side we'll be playing this weekend.

yeah well the MFC of Round 5, 2015 is not exactly the same comparison as wooden spoon Saints of 2014

edit

here is the ladder going into that game. with 5 rounds to go Freo are a game off having a home qualifying final, how can you imply they had nothing to play for, that is garbage

SY 17 52 138.8

HW 17 52 138.0

GE 17 52 112.1

FR 17 48 133.2

yeah well the MFC of Round 5, 2015 is not exactly the same comparison as wooden spoon Saints of 2014

I love your optimism, but Freo are grand final bound

No chance they are dropping this match

I want to see a good close contest and will be happy with that.

Actually think we are a better chance against Sydney next weekend, not least because I'm gonna be in New York for work, and history suggests that we'll probably win by 10 goals just to upset me more for missing the match.

Also Freos played Port, Cats at Skilled and Sydney, we've played Gold Coast, GWS, Crows and Tigers, a bit of discrepancy in opponents.

So they've been nicely softened up for us! Bring it on. I'm planning to buy myself a nice bottle of single malt holy water on Saturday in preparation for the celebrations on Sunday.

We would win a lot more without Watts. He is a passenger. We play one man down with his output.

Top 10 for disposals. Top 10 for effective disposal. 3rd for marks. 12th for one per-centers. No 1 for goal assists. There are a lot of others behind JW, it would seem.

Top 10 for disposals. Top 10 for effective disposal. 3rd for marks. 12th for one per-centers. No 1 for goal assists. There are a lot of others behind JW, it would seem.

Great stats Rev, ta. Third in marks. No 1 for goal assists. Shows his value. Would love to see his GPS figures

Where can i find those stats

I'd love to see vandenBerg go up against Fyfe but I imagine that Vince will get the gig.

I'd love to see vandenBerg go up against Fyfe but I imagine that Vince will get the gig.

So would I.

I reckon he has the 'animal' and brute strength to go with him.

Definitely not the running ability at this stage.

What an acquisition he is though.

So would I.

I reckon he has the 'animal' and brute strength to go with him.

Definitely not the running ability at this stage.

What an acquisition he is though.

I reckon the Roos' will use the same run-with players as he has with Dangerfield and Cotchin. Vince goes with Fyfe when he's playing on-ball and Garland takes him when he pushes forward.