For Wiseblood

One of the kicking drills involved a kick out from a point, with the players practicing their running patterns to create space

Another was a cross field kick to a player who then feigned a kick inside and kicked down the line

Another drill involved more attackers than defenders, with players taking turns, the idea was to take the correct option and to wave run

Another drill involved body to body work, mainly amongst the big guys, although they did have Watts matched up against Dawes

McCartney was again working with ANB, have Toumpas knock him around one on one so he gains even more confidence in his knee

Cheers mate, that's what we come here for.

But that is what he did with both Salem and JKH, but who knows

What I mean is that he doesn't need to "manage" him after round 1 of the season. JKH played the first 12 rounds last year and when Salem got his chance he played 10 straight. If Brayshaw doesn't play round 2, and I believe he will, it won 't be because he's being "managed".

After being at the G on Saturday and enjoying it, took footy free couple of days

No shows today, Trengove, Petracca, Hunt and Nathan Jones

Light duties Viney, Watts, Howe, Tom McDonald, no major issues, just management and Jetta (who had a bit of issue with concussion after the game)

Ball movement and stoppages still the focus

Spoke to quite a few of the players, as expected all up and about but there is a steely resolve to back up at the weekend

Complimented Jeff Garlett on his game, got the usual "just playing my role", asked about the Watts tap back, said there was no call, just two players playing on instinct, said he enjoyed his time in the midfield

Chris Salem said it was a very good weekend, said his kick for goal couldn't have come of his foot any better (Arsenal beat Liverpool 4-1)

Asked Aaron Vandenberg how easy AFL was, said his body said it wasn't

Chris Dawes is looking like a caged bear, if he gets the run, would not like to be first GWS defender who gets in his way

Bernie Vince got through whole Casey game unscathed and is cherry ripe, I asked

Should make Thursday's training interesting

Pics will be on Twitter Demonpk

Any questions feel free

And people on here are actually saying that he shouldn't play. spare me. We need to brutalise GWS this week, they are a tough team, and we need to throw it back at them.

Cut and thrust of informed debate is OK, but after such a great day on Saturday, there is no need for sniping. That said, I can't remember the last time we had the luxury of debating who should be in and who should be dropped for round 2, from such a substantial and available list. For that alone, I am grateful.

Go Dees.

For Wiseblood

One of the kicking drills involved a kick out from a point, with the players practicing their running patterns to create space

Another was a cross field kick to a player who then feigned a kick inside and kicked down the line

Another drill involved more attackers than defenders, with players taking turns, the idea was to take the correct option and to wave run

Another drill involved body to body work, mainly amongst the big guys, although they did have Watts matched up against Dawes

McCartney was again working with ANB, have Toumpas knock him around one on one so he gains even more confidence in his knee

Cheers mate,

I too enjoy reading those sort of training reports as it gives me an insight into what they do during training.

Thursday's selection is going to be interesting.

Cheers mate,

I too enjoy reading those sort of training reports as it gives me an insight into what they do during training.

Thursday's selection is going to be interesting.

Normally I am not flying solo at training, I find the drill reporting a bit boring, but if I fly solo, willl make sure I put something

As for Brayshaw, I thought he did ok and would be stiff to be omitted, but was thinking out loud about who Dawes and Vince replace, think the Toumps is easy, but thought hit them big in the first 3/4 then bring JKH on, in last quarter, could easily be Brayshaw or Vandenberg as sub, but that is stiff on JKH then, nice positon to be in though

That said, I can't remember the last time we had the luxury of debating who should be in and who should be dropped for round 2,

We have had many years of half luxury - After round one, having a very easy debate on who should be out.

Great sign that Hogan's back troubles are behind him if he pulled up well and was able to train fully after his first AFL hit out

Great sign that Hogans back troubles are behind him if he pulled up well and was able to train fully after his first AFL hit out

He gets a quick massage out on the ground before he starts training every time, must be part of the routine, was bouncing around at training, got the usual arm breaking handshake when I congratulated him on his debut

Think even he was unsure as to whether he could cut it at AFL level, got better as they game went on, think we will see a step up this weekend

In Roos presser this morning, was talking about managing Brayshaw, my opinion Brayshaw and Toumpas for Dawes and Vince with JKH as the sub

I think that's not a bad choice TDI (I don't really want JKH or Kent to be dropped). Brayshaw can get a couple full games at Casey however does leave us with some tall timber (Frost probably the black sheep)

Which group did Frost train with?

I think that's not a bad choice TDI (I don't really want JKH or Kent to be dropped). Brayshaw can get a couple full games at Casey however does leave us with some tall timber (Frost probably the black sheep)

Which group did Frost train with?

Was thinking more that Vandenberg has had a taste and can rotate through the midfield with his bigger mature body, hadn't thought of Frost being the one to give way, unless they want to risk Hogan in the ruck, may get Watts to do it. Think i will give up and leave it to match committee. Frost didn't train with any specific group as they didn't break into groups, will be interesting to see what happens Thursday

After being at the G on Saturday and enjoying it, took footy free couple of days

No shows today, Trengove, Petracca, Hunt and Nathan Jones

Light duties Viney, Watts, Howe, Tom McDonald, no major issues, just management and Jetta (who had a bit of issue with concussion after the game)

Ball movement and stoppages still the focus

Spoke to quite a few of the players, as expected all up and about but there is a steely resolve to back up at the weekend

Complimented Jeff Garlett on his game, got the usual "just playing my role", asked about the Watts tap back, said there was no call, just two players playing on instinct, said he enjoyed his time in the midfield

Chris Salem said it was a very good weekend, said his kick for goal couldn't have come of his foot any better (Arsenal beat Liverpool 4-1)

Asked Aaron Vandenberg how easy AFL was, said his body said it wasn't

Chris Dawes is looking like a caged bear, if he gets the run, would not like to be first GWS defender who gets in his way

Bernie Vince got through whole Casey game unscathed and is cherry ripe, I asked

Should make Thursday's training interesting

Pics will be on Twitter Demonpk

Any questions feel free

I'm glad im not the only one still feeling rough from saturday's celebrations. I think I better book a ward in ICU if we ever make a GF

thanks for the update mate

They have been training all summer on running patterns. Shouldn't be a problem

Becomes a problem when you have opposition but I get your point.

How do we fit Dawes and Vince in the line up, that's the big question.

We don't . Vince plays one more at Casey to build up fitness and if ok in for Crows. Dawes for Toumpas, Kent sub.

And people on here are actually saying that he shouldn't play. spare me. We need to brutalise GWS this week, they are a tough team, and we need to throw it back at them.

So can we expect Dawes to be missing rounds 3 and 4 through suspension?

I want to see toughness like the way Vandenberg ran in off the wing and collected the Suns player and the ball. Or Brayshaw sitting under the ball with 2 opponents to take that mark. Dawes' cheap shots last year that earned suspensions are not tough.

Here is another bit for those that like 'fluff' and maybe the new mindset

Myself and another watcher saw Watts before the training started, asked whether that was his best game, said if he hadn't fluffed a couple of kicks it would have been an ok game, but certainly not his best

Interesting...

The better we get the more you will get out of an 'ok' game from Watts.

So can we expect Dawes to be missing rounds 3 and 4 through suspension?

I want to see toughness like the way Vandenberg ran in off the wing and collected the Suns player and the ball. Or Brayshaw sitting under the ball with 2 opponents to take that mark. Dawes' cheap shots last year that earned suspensions are not tough.

you are a dead set imbecile if you think by "brutalise" i mean punch and be dirty.

From such a substantial and available list

We have had many years of half luxury - After round one, having a very easy debate on who should be out.

No we haven't

you are a dead set imbecile if you think by "brutalise" i mean punch and be dirty.

I suggest that you look up a dictionary then, because the term "brutalise" is redundant in modern AFL football. Just because he has a big frame doesn't mean the Dawes offers any additional toughness to the side. I've never seen an opposition player be petrified by Dawes' mere presence on the field.

I suggest that you look up a dictionary then, because the term "brutalise" is redundant in modern AFL football. Just because he has a big frame doesn't mean the Dawes offers any additional toughness to the side. I've never seen an opposition player be petrified by Dawes' mere presence on the field.

You actually have no idea. wow. He regularly throws his weight around, bumping, harassing, yapping etc. Have you actually watched him play?

Yes he has done some dirty things, but to say that the opposition wouldn't fear him if they see him coming, OR standing in front to block etc. is just so so dumb.

I'm shocked by how stupid you are. You CLEARLY have never seen him play, so here you go:

You actually have no idea. wow. He regularly throws his weight around, bumping, harassing, yapping etc. Have you actually watched him play?

Yes he has done some dirty things, but to say that the opposition wouldn't fear him if they see him coming, OR standing in front to block etc. is just so so dumb.

I'm shocked by how stupid you are. You CLEARLY have never seen him play, so here you go:

You write like a 12 year old with angst because he's had a sh#tty school holiday, so I won't bother responding anymore.

Calm down guys we won on Saturday.

You write like a 12 year old with angst because he's had a sh#tty school holiday, so I won't bother responding anymore.

You actually have no idea. wow. He regularly throws his weight around, bumping, harassing, yapping etc. Have you actually watched him play?

Yes he has done some dirty things, but to say that the opposition wouldn't fear him if they see him coming, OR standing in front to block etc. is just so so dumb.

I'm shocked by how stupid you are. You CLEARLY have never seen him play, so here you go:

Seeing this reminds me of how much weight he has lost this year. Much slimmer.

Seeing this reminds me of how much weight he has lost this year. Much slimmer.

i recon he will be quite mobile, which will help. Hogan deep, Dawes pushing up. Although i do like how Hogan pushes up and links up too.

Look forward to seeing these two together in action.