Currently previewing the 2015 fortunes of Melbourne. Should be interesting.

Consensus is that the Demons need to win 6 - 7 games to prove that they are progressing. I'd be happy with that!

Consensus is that the Demons need to win 6 - 7 games to prove that they are progressing. I'd be happy with that!

Great minds think alike Toorak.

That is exactly my prediction.

We should have won 6-7 last season

Doing that this season...ho-hum

8-9 is a pass. Nothing less for mine

We should have won 6-7 last season

Doing that this season...ho-hum

8-9 is a pass. Nothing less for mine

bb this is a bit like "if my aunty had ... she would be my uncle.

The simple fact is we did not win 6 -7 last year we won 4.

Now look me in the eye and tell me you really expect to win 8 -9?

I expect to win 8-9 ....if we're to be deemed as having improved.

I expect to win 8-9 ....if we're to be deemed as having improved.

You are bound for disappointment.

So far we have beaten the dogs vfl side by a goal and lost to the Bombers vfl side.

Have you looked at fixture?

Which sides are we going to beat?

You are bound for disappointment.

So far we have beaten the dogs vfl side by a goal and lost to the Bombers vfl side.

Have you looked at fixture?

Which sides are we going to beat?

OD

I might well be disappointed.

Point is it needs 8-9 wins to equal improvement.

Any less is treading water....or pizzing in it. Same thing really.

8 is a minimum for mine but optimistic that we can win up to 12 , port twice last year saints dogs all games we could have won , tiges blues dons saints crows port are all chances imo .

John Ralph is a tool

That is all

8 is a minimum for mine but optimistic that we can win up to 12 , port twice last year saints dogs all games we could have won , tiges blues dons saints crows port are all chances imo .

If we win 12 I'll eat my jocks.

OD

I might well be disappointed.

Point is it needs 8-9 wins to equal improvement.

Any less is treading water....or pizzing in it. Same thing really.

Treading water, exactly

The last 10 games of last year we scored 0 out of a possible 40 points after some fighting wins early

thus negating any improvement

8-9 wins is bare minimum still under 50%

The club collectively must AIM higher

Treading water, exactly

The last 10 games of last year we scored 0 out of a possible 40 points after some fighting wins early

thus negating any improvement

8-9 wins is bare minimum still under 50%

The club collectively must AIM higher

Your sirness what we require and what we are capable of are two different things.

We simply do have a list capable of winning your bare min. Figure.

Our list still has way too many average players.

Have you looked at the fixture which are nine games we are going to win?

John Ralph is a tool

That is all

No. Tools are useful, especially when changing a flat tyre.

Yes, Ralph is a lightweight who had no clue we also received picks with Frost that netted Oscar McDonald and Neal-Bullen, who were both considered potential top 30 draft picks. He was lamenting the continuation of giving up picks for a player without realising we gave up one good pick for 3 players.

Edited March 26, 201510 yr by ProDee

Point is it needs 8-9 wins to equal improvement.

Arbitrary figures. Also, the inconvenient fact remains that we only won 4 last year, so 6 year would be an improvement. Hard to argue against. You can't set up a fictional "we should have won 6-7, so need to improve on that". If we'd won 6-7, we would have been better than we were. Which we clearly weren't.

As to 8, we managed to win around that in the Bailey years, but they were for the most part "easy" wins against "easy" sides and/or in "easy" situations - but when the pressure came on, we collapsed like a house of cards, and it was clear that we had no real future as things stood.

For there to be an improvement, there needs to be an improvement .... in more matches for longer, greater consistency and an improvement in our "worse" as much as our "best", fewer really poor performances even for a quarter, more forward entries and more of those converted into scores for an overall higher percentage, some of the younger players stepping up, an ability to win more clearances on a regular basis, an ability to limit any blowout opposition scores, etc. etc.

Get some of that going in the right direction and the wins will sort themselves out.

I am of the opinion, we will struggle early then the back half of the season I think it will start to click with players then we will see the list start to grow.

Yes I think 8 to 9 as well and what's more if it doesn't happen in the 2015 no mucking around Melbourne we ask Roos to consider his position and slot Goodwin in the hot seat.

I am of the opinion, we will struggle early then the back half of the season I think it will start to click with players then we will see the list start to grow.

Like last year?

I am of the opinion, we will struggle early then the back half of the season I think it will start to click with players then we will see the list start to grow.

I concur.

Yes I think 8 to 9 as well and what's more if it doesn't happen in the 2015 no mucking around Melbourne we ask Roos to consider his position and slot Goodwin in the hot seat.

I think the weather up there is affecting your reasoning powers willmoy.

OD

I might well be disappointed.

Point is it needs 8-9 wins to equal improvement.

Any less is treading water....or pizzing in it. Same thing really.

Remind me to never swim with you ...

We will struggle to win a game in the first seven.

Game 1 is our only chance IMO.

We could easily be facing the dogs at zero and seven.

Edited March 26, 201510 yr by old dee

For there to be an improvement, there needs to be an improvement ....

Glad we got that sorted...improvement !!

Sarcasm aside...we only won 4 but were there abouts for 6-7 last season

To simply win 6/7 is but stepping across the street...big deal.

We need to more decisively beyond that..I.e 8-9...at least.

That demonstrates a betterment not just correcting what should have been.

Edited March 26, 201510 yr by beelzebub

We will struggle to win a game in the first seven.

Game 1 is our only chance IMO.

We could easily be facing the dogs at zero and seven.

I think round 4 is a good chance.