Unfortunately I don't see a bright future for Toumpas in the AFL. We royally screwed that draft pick.

I must have seen a different game to you i thought he played a really good game.

24 disposals 10 marks and 4 tackles. Some people will never be satisfied.

Yeah nah, you can shut your eyes and pretend it was the foot off the pedal, but that second half was the exactly the same type of panicky performance we saw over the course of last year. They just turn to water when there is a lead to protect. Rushed kicks, dropped marks, terrible decisions, turnovers galore. The only way to cure it is by winning, so at least that was ticked off.

Thank god we have Lumumba. One more player who doesn't fill their shorts when it's time to stand up.

I must have seen a different game to you i thought he played a really good game.

24 disposals 10 marks and 4 tackles. Some people will never be satisfied.

Repeatedly caught when he had an opponent near him. Slow decision maker, quite an ordinary field kick.

Edit: Salem is already light years ahead of him.

Toumpas showed great promise, viney also was fantastic.

Missed Hogans' link up second half.

Lumumba was simply excellent.

Tyson, classy.

Frost and McDonald will lead our backline for the next 10 years.

Garland showed he isn't completely past it.

The fact our near 1st string side could barely fall over the line against a team of draftees, that's just abysmal.

We may have had a near first team on paper, but we didn't have a near first team on the field for much of the second half.

I must have seen a different game to you i thought he played a really good game.

24 disposals 10 marks and 4 tackles. Some people will never be satisfied.

aren't you the cretin that just said we will finish bottom 3

minutes ago you said this

I must have seen a different game to you i thought he played a really good game.

24 disposals 10 marks and 4 tackles. Some people will never be satisfied.

I agree. 2 poor kicks and caught once the other one very stiff. Ran hard all day as per his 10 marks also was a lot better defensively. So far from our worst it is laughable anyone would raise him.

I must have seen a different game to you i thought he played a really good game.

24 disposals 10 marks and 4 tackles. Some people will never be satisfied.

Perfectly said! One of the things I liked from him today was how hard he went at times. Some people had him pencilled in as another Watts/Morton pea heart, but I saw some really courageous efforts from him today.

As you said, some people will never be satisfied!!!!

Unfortunately I don't see a bright future for Toumpas in the AFL. We royally screwed that draft pick.

Nah, he's alright. He just needs some work on his inside game.

Toumpas gets caught more than any other player I've seen in AFL football.

It is fixable, he has many quality attributes, he'll be a good player, just needs to iron out some simple issues.

I hope McCartney can get in touch with Scott West, because he would do wonders for James Toumpas.

Being there today I thought I would give my 2 cents worth. I thought Lumumba, Salem and Garlett were stand outs for me. Hogan provided a target as you would want and expect. Toumpas showed potential too. I think he'll make it. Shocking second half as we all know. It will be another long year. At least we are not not the Bulldogs. They are not competitive at all.

Can someone list the Demons players who were rested in the 2nd half, might make us feel a bit better

Can someone confirm that Jones and Hogan and Tyson hardly played in the last or was it just that we couldn't get near it.

Yeah nah, you can shut your eyes and pretend it was the foot off the pedal, but that second half was the exactly the same type of panicky performance we saw over the course of last year. They just turn to water when there is a lead to protect. Rushed kicks, dropped marks, terrible decisions, turnovers galore. The only way to cure it is by winning, so at least that was ticked off.

Thank god we have Lumumba. One more player who doesn't fill their shorts when it's time to stand up.

Turning to water when protecting a lead? Can't remember that happening much in the past 7 seasons. Never had many leads to protect.

Who played little game mins for second half ?

Cheers

A lot of things about today deserve to be criticised, but one of them isn't Toumpas.

Repeatedly caught when he had an opponent near him.

This needs to be highlighted, once he got the ball he just let the opposition tackle him and did nothing.

aren't you the cretin that just said we will finish bottom 3

minutes ago you said this

How does saying Toumpas playing well is similar to my comment of finishing bottom 3.

You really are a simpleton.

Toumpas showed great promise, viney also was fantastic.

Missed Hogans' link up second half.

Lumumba was simply excellent.

Tyson, classy.

Frost and McDonald will lead our backline for the next 10 years.

Garland showed he isn't completely past it.

Surprised you raised Garland and Viney. Both need to sort their ball use.

good to see some people have written off the season after 60 minutes of football. calm the fark down. seriously.. its the whizz fizz cup in the cauldron that is North Ballarat..

I'm happy with a win, nobody getting hurt, there were some good performances out there today, and there are also a few things to work on.. you doomsayers better not watch us against the Essendon thirds next week, if we don't win by 15 goals, you'll be cutting up your membership cards!!

This needs to be highlighted, once he got the ball he just let the opposition tackle him and did nothing.

Tyson and N.Jones do that all the time, what of it?

viney plays crash and bash unfortunately for him he isn't all that large

Surprised you raised Garland and Viney. Both need to sort their ball use.

Viney's Achilles Heel is his goal kicking. Virtually no chance from 30 + out even straight in front.

Unfortunately I don't see a bright future for Toumpas in the AFL. We royally screwed that draft pick.

Toumpas was pretty good in the first half,and was by no means the worst in the second half.Watching you could clearly see the team mentally switch off after half time. Roos was also clearly experimenting with the centre clearance lineup in the last quarter. This happened to coincide with the bullies putting their best in the centre, the outcome we hardly got a clearance. I also thought Grimes was reasonable today.

what frustrates me are the holding the ball decisions where it seems the player is doing all they can to get rid of it, oh and ethan tremblay's comments

Tyson and N.Jones do that all the time, what of it?

Not when there is an opportunity to dispose of it.