Rather than crying about this, I would play hard ball and get on with it. The Pies won't have the picks to satisfy us after Treloar and maybe Aish.

I would rather get into Maynard's ear now and try and convince him to declare us, as where wants to go and then deal for him and Kennedy for Howe.

I would then see if we could get another player like maybe Grimes, to go to GC with 6, for 3 and a pick back to use on Bugg.

nice but Red...Grimes the same currency as Howe ?...now are YOU serious

pick 3 is still possible. Mahony seems to be desperate for it. Send whatever we get for Howe to GC, along with pick 6 and a late pick, for pick 3 and 35

Followed by using 43 on Bugg and 35 on Kennedy.

Edited October 15, 20159 yr by DemonLad5

Read a report somewhere that Howe/s manager has now stated he doesn't want to move interstate

Yeh he is saying that now, but why else were we negotiating with Gold Coast in the first place if he wasn't happy to move there? I don't think the club would get deep into negotiating a trade without knowing the player is a good chance to want to move there. His manager has said a lot of things, less said about him probably for the best.

Rather than crying about this, I would play hard ball and get on with it. The Pies won't have the picks to satisfy us after Treloar and maybe Aish.

I would rather get into Maynard's ear now and try and convince him to declare us, as where wants to go and then deal for him and Kennedy for Howe.

I would then see if we could get another player like maybe Grimes, to go to GC with 6, for 3 and a pick back to use on Bugg.

This club doesn't know how to play hardball

Having Roos & Buckley on AFL 360 this Monday night could finally be a whole lot more interesting and relevant if they had a trade special on. cut the atmosphere with a knife. Aside from queens bday they were a bore all year.

Edited October 15, 20159 yr by johndemons

nice but Red...Grimes the same currency as Howe ?...now are YOU serious

It would be a negotiation.

BTW are you now calling Howe a star? Everyone on here wanted him gone.

Read a report somewhere that Howe/s manager has now stated he doesn't want to move interstate

He is Tasmanian, so he has already moved interstate... wtf?

I bet they had this deal stitched up a year ago and the recent bali meeting was a cover. You don't just meet a coach half way through trade week and agree to go to their club. Going on the actions of the manager and player all year it has all the hallmarks.

Edited October 15, 20159 yr by johndemons

It would be a negotiation.

BTW are you now calling Howe a star? Everyone on here wanted him gone.

No Im not.. but in trade weighting it had been postulated that Howe and Six was worth 3 and a second rounder

I can for the life of me seeing Grimes attracting that trade. Do you, seriously ?

He is Tasmanian, so he has already moved interstate... wtf?

he is apparently predisposed to being two faced ( apologies to all other Taswegians )

Lots of emotion from posters but that is no basis for good decisions.

I bet they had this deal stitched up a year ago and the recent bali meeting was a cover. You don't just meet a coach half way through trade week and agree to go to their club. Going on the actions of the manager and player all year it has all the hallmarks.

I wouldn't put it past Collingwood.

I wonder what the repercussions would be if information pertaining to that was leaked?

Lots of emotion from posters but that is no basis for good decisions.

fair comment.

What have the Pies got that's anything approaching correct value as compared other offers ?

I wouldn't put it past Collingwood.

I wonder what the repercussions would be if information pertaining to that was leaked?

what Gil the Dil is going to reprimand Collingwood !!!

I think the proposed trade between Gold Coast and Melbourne was as follows:

Melbourne In: Pick 3 (2,234 points), Pick 35 (522 points)

Gold Coast In: Pick 6 (1,751 points), Howe

That makes Howe worth 1005 points, perfectly in line with Mahoney saying Howe is worth a late first round / early second round pick e.g. pick 17 (1,025 points) or 18 (985 points).

Therefore I think we will go to Collingwood and say we want 1000 points worth of picks.

Not sure how it will happen if they spend them on Aish and Treloar....

Edited October 15, 20159 yr by Harry Plopper

I negotiate contracts for a living

No amount of gonad growth banging of desks or tough talk works

What works is having an alternative offer, finding common ground and looking at the big picture - Michael corleone - strictly business

I negotiate contracts for a living

No amount of gonad growth banging of desks or tough talk works

What works is having an alternative offer, finding common ground and looking at the big picture - Michael corleone - strictly business

And some are better at negotiating their wants better

we'r not to flash it seems

Well he is uncontracted for a start.

not yet hes not. You know that full well red

Despite all the emotion being expressed about MFC not taking a hard enough line, can anyone who is not hot under the collar tell me what they can do other than force him into a draft for which we get nothing (except perhaps worse relations with our players). If that is true, no amount of voluminous balls will make the slightest difference.

The system is the constraint here - Howe would have had to agree to go up to the GC.

And this whole "they shouldn't nominate a club!1!" rigmarole is a bit rich coming from a bunch of people that would take a similar desire from a player like Prestia to come to Melbourne next year as leverage to screw over GC...

We have got to deal with what is in front of us and make the most of it.

And I believe Howe can go through the National Draft, and not the PSD, where he is possibly more likely to make it through to Collingwood.

Must be the Paleo effect...we needs large amounts of steak knives

I can see one positive in the Howe situation ie. we now know for sure and certain that he does not have the sort of character that fits with the culture we are building at Melbourne. Good riddance Howie! Go to the filth, where I'm sure you will be welcomed by some like-minded low-lights.

I can see one positive in the Howe situation ie. we now know for sure and certain that he does not have the sort of character that fits with the culture we are building at Melbourne. Good riddance Howie! Go to the filth, where I'm sure you will be welcomed by some like-minded low-lights.

he will fit in well with Aish

Has a better relationship with Buckley than he does with Roos? Wow. Says more about the kind of guy Howe is.

Bye bye bogan.[/quote

Officially now my most hated player. F&$k you Howe

The manner in which Howe has conducted this is unprofessional but we can't respond in like.

For all the angst here we don't even know what the deal with Collingwood is yet. They may work with us to get us what we want because that gets them what they want.

Business is business. Get over it and get on with it.