For us to make finals in 2016, we're going to have to improve a hell of a lot from 2014. Logically, that would mean 2015 will be a significant improvement on our recent seasons.

How anyone could say that this year will be a write off clearly has no idea.

Re my comment on the Casey agreement, when it was announced and published on the Club Website in 2008, it said it was a 10 year agreement, we have supporters bemoaning the lack of information from the club, and when it is provided don't read it, I thought it was a well know fact, why I don't join in with the topics about the alignment, perhaps I should have and stopped them dead till 2018, my bad........also believe the bus was a write off

I was not "bemoaning a lack of information from the club" Saty

I did not know and I thought the question last night provided some useful information.

I am the more knowledgeable as a result of the question.

I normally don't listen to any thing Greg Denham says....BUT....This morning I happened to listen to him on KB's show.

He stated that the only reason MFC posted a profit was that they had sacked half of their staff and the "profit" was misleading the members.

When asked if he had read the financials, he stated that he didn't need to and that he knew the truth of the matter.

Now I don't know a lot about businesses or how they are run, but I do know that if you have too many staff and have to down size it would be prudent to cut those staff.....Which I think is good business practice.....Is it not????

Denham is the embodiment of "that guy" everyone knows at least one of: barracks for Hawthorn, knows everything that is wrong with the lowly clubs, has an opinion on everything, and has a mouth permanently open with ears permanently closed.

He's paid to be an angry, thoughtless moron and does a wonderful job of it.

I was not "bemoaning a lack of information from the club" Saty

I did not know and I thought the question last night provided some useful information.

I am the more knowledgeable as a result of the question.

Me too.

Something else I learned last night which may have been common knowledge for others is that the new Casey coach is on the MFC payroll.

I was not "bemoaning a lack of information from the club" Saty

I did not know and I thought the question last night provided some useful information.

I am the more knowledgeable as a result of the question.

Spot on old dee. I'm in the same boat; I didn't know either. Judging by the response it would seem plenty didn't. Most of us don't read every letter of every bit of information the club publishes, or necessarily take it all in or remember it if it wasn't important to us at the time. 2008 was a long time ago.

It's only become topical now because the relationship has gone to custard, hence the question. It's exactly what AGMs should be for - getting clarity on points that members are concerned about.

Denham is the embodiment of "that guy" everyone knows at least one of: barracks for Hawthorn, knows everything that is wrong with the lowly clubs, has an opinion on everything, and has a mouth permanently open with ears permanently closed.

He's paid to be an angry, thoughtless moron and does a wonderful job of it.

A perfect analysis. Could not have said it better myself. Let's not give the F Wit anymore oxygen on this forum at least.

Denham is the embodiment of "that guy" everyone knows at least one of: barracks for Hawthorn, knows everything that is wrong with the lowly clubs, has an opinion on everything, and has a mouth permanently open with ears permanently closed.

He's paid to be an angry, thoughtless moron and does a wonderful job of it.

Magnificent Nash, laughed out loud in a cafe

I was not "bemoaning a lack of information from the club" Saty

I did not know and I thought the question last night provided some useful information.

I am the more knowledgeable as a result of the question.

That wasn't aimed at anybody in particular OD, just heard it to many times, I read absolutely everything and ask questions if I can't find the answer

If anybody needs a question asked, I am more than willing to try and get an answer, got the answer before Xmas about why we can't have advertising around Goschs

Pretty sure he was talking about Denham there Saty.

Me too.

Something else I learned last night which may have been common knowledge for others is that the new Casey coach is on the MFC payroll.

Me too

Pretty sure he was talking about Denham there Saty.

Yes I have a problem with my internet, I use notepad to type and then paste, mixed up topics, and notepads, deleted the post,

Me too

I wasn't having a go at those who asked the questions OD, I was pleased, apart from the first person, we had some really good questions, but I thought most of the answers were known, I was wrong, I am afraid I am sponge when it comes to information, can never get enough, and go looking for it

Edited February 5, 201510 yr by The Devil Inside

Yes I have a problem with my internet, I use notepad to type and then paste, mixed up topics, and notepads, deleted the post,

Old school.

Old school.

Old school indeed Clint, my phone is one of those old persons phones that just makes or receives messages/calls, hate being rung at the best of times, as for some of the other apps, yuk,

Old school indeed Clint, my phone is one of those old persons phones that just makes or receives messages/calls, hate being rung at the best of times, as for some of the other apps, yuk,

Stop please Saty people will think you are as old as me.

Dropped the Nokia yesterday and thought oh no I will have to buy a new one.

But it is still firing, tech is old but as tough as nails.

Stop please Saty people will think you are as old as me.

Dropped the Nokia yesterday and thought oh no I will have to buy a new one.

But it is still firing, tech is old but as tough as nails.

Nah, it is one of the things we agree on, thinking of building an app for a phone, tells people when to empty their bowels on a regular basis, a lot of people these days seem to need to be told to do everything, it will be called "give me the [censored]"...bugger it censored my joke s"""s

Edited February 5, 201510 yr by The Devil Inside

Nah, it is one of the things we agree on, thinking of building an app for a phone, tells people when to empty their bowels on a regular basis, a lot of people these days seem to need to be told to do everything, it will be called "give me the [censored]"...bugger it censored my joke s"""s

could also be called 'download manager'

could also be called 'download manager'

Touche....another laugh out loud moment....10 out 10 C&B, perhaps we should just call it your moniker, I have rather vivid memories from my riotous past of the effects.....bring to mind a Johnny Cash song...

Edited February 5, 201510 yr by The Devil Inside

Off line till tomorrow arvo now, prior commitments, will post my saccharine laden report from training then

Off line till tomorrow arvo now, prior commitments, will post my saccharine laden report from training then

I knew you were lying.

...it will be called "give me the [censored]"...bugger it censored my joke s"""s

Perhaps you can call it " Sh*t 'Appens"

Edited February 5, 201510 yr by AmDamDemon

Denham is the embodiment of "that guy" everyone knows at least one of: barracks for Hawthorn, knows everything that is wrong with the lowly clubs, has an opinion on everything, and has a mouth permanently open with ears permanently closed.

He's paid to be an angry, thoughtless moron and does a wonderful job of it.

Apart from supporting Hawthorn, this apt description could also apply to Robbo of Hun journalistic fame.

Also. Re the finals prediction. As I recall everyone thought Glenn McGrath was a dick the first time he made a 5 nil series prediction against England.

Apart from supporting Hawthorn, this apt description could also apply to Robbo of Hun journalistic fame.

Also. Re the finals prediction. As I recall everyone thought Glenn McGrath was a [censored] the first time he made a 5 nil series prediction against England.

and picket fence predicted 0-5 over on ology

Just remembered a Comment by ROOSY.

It proves he reads Demonland.

"We haven't lost a game yet, so things are good."

I was not "bemoaning a lack of information from the club" Saty

I did not know and I thought the question last night provided some useful information.

I am the more knowledgeable as a result of the question.

One must know everything about the MFC Old or be prepared for a Saty spray...Dam you for not reading an article on the website from 2008

To the naughty corner immediately.....

i thought we were locked in for 30 years as well....Thankfully we can get out in a few years and just use the fitness center and pool over summer to satisfy the city of....

At the end of the day ..we have heard words from many an administration/coach over the years. They mean little to me - action not words. Whilst the "actions" of Roos and co haven't translated into a meteoric rise up the ladder I am feeling more bullish than I ever have before.

It's a minor point to quibble over but I think it's important to realise it's not you or I or any of the other diehards that could be affected by these comments, we'll sign up and turn up anyway. It's the supporters who may only go once a year or those who dropped off the membership list 4 or 5 years ago who might hear it and think "why bother this year?"