Aish has a couple of years in the system and is already showing he can withstand the AFL game. Parish is unproven at AFL level

Toumpas has a couple of years ahead of Aish but you compared parish to him.. FMD your a lightweight!

Of course they are unproven thanks for pointing that out captain obvious. But compare Parish and Aish's both on their style at 18 and Parish hits the contest harder and has a good mix of inside and outside. Aish is an outsider and is soft. Plain and simple mate.

I just find it hilarious you are already writing off Parish when you have CLEARLY not watched Parish play.

Forget about Parish, Essendon are blatantly tanking at team selection to secure him in a very shallow draft. This year's best KPPs are locked into Brisbane, Carlton and Gold Coast, and the best midfielders are predictably gifted to Sydney and GWS via their Academies. All teams will slide even further if the AFL gift Brisbane a priority pick, which would be a total farce on the AFL's behalf (thus it will almost definitely happen). Win another game or two and we might be looking at pick #7.

Focus your energy on the hopefully likely outcome that we trade our first rounder for Prestia.

Plough's TAC Cup Future Stars selections for this week:-

1. Brisbane - Jacob Weitering

2. Gold Coast - Joshua Schache

3. Sydney* - Callum Mills

4. Carlton - Aaron Francis

5. GWS* - Jacob Hopper

6. Essendon - Darcy Parish

7. Melbourne - Darcy Tucker

8. St. Kilda - Rhys Mathieson

9. Port Adelaide - Harley Balic

10. GWS* - Matthew Kennedy

11. Collingwood - Charlie Curnow

12. Brisbane* - Ben Keays

13. Adelaide - Ryan Burton

14. Geelong - Kieran Collins

15. Western Bulldogs - Sam Weideman

16. North Melbourne - Harry McKay

17. Richmond - Riley Bonner

18. Hawthorn - Kieran Lovell

19. Brisbane* - Eric Hipwood

20. West Coast - Callum Ah Chee

* Academy bid

I have a feeling that Melbourne will finish ahead of St. Kilda by year's end and get pick 8 which it might well finish up trading.

if we don't trade it, i'd rather go weidemann over the likes of tucker.

the preference is obviously to trade, and bring in the likes of prestia, bennell, etc. etc.

Based on what I've seen of the two, I'd have Bonner ahead of Tucker as far as playmaking half backs go.

That said, if we take the pick (which should end up being pick 6) to the draft, I could see us taking Balic if Parish off the board.

Interesting that Kieran Lovell has moved up to a late first rounder here. Did Future Stars focus on Div 2 prospects this week?

Based on what I've seen of the two, I'd have Bonner ahead of Tucker as far as playmaking half backs go.

That said, if we take the pick (which should end up being pick 6) to the draft, I could see us taking Balic if Parish off the board.

I like Bonner from the little I have seen. He's a good size and looks to be a good kick. Still most pundits seem to think he is a mid-teen selection.

I like Bonner from the little I have seen. He's a good size and looks to be a good kick. Still most pundits seem to think he is a mid-teen selection.

Fringes of the 10 are probably about right for him.

I suspect he suffers a little bit from not being a TAC Cup participant, and there's a little bit of 'out of sight out of mind' with him.

Athletically he is very good, and he also kicks well off both feet. How high he goes prob depends on whether a club is desperate for that Kolodjashnij type this year. Strong testing at the combine helped KK, may do the same for Bonner.

Milera is another who I'd take ahead of where he's generally rated.

Edit: Also worth noting that the inclusion of the academy players in the rankings skews where players sit as well.

I expect Mills, Hopper, Kennedy, Keays and Hipwood to be unavailable, so the rankings of players available in an open draft changes if you take them out.

The best available 10 could look something like this if you subtract the Academy tied players:

1. Jacob WEITERING

2. Josh SCHACHE

5 Aaron FRANCIS

6. Darcy PARISH

7. Charlie CURNOW

10. Harry McKAY

11. Rhys MATHIESON

12. Ryan BURTON

13. Sam WEIDEMAN

14. Riley BONNER

Harley Balic out for the rest of the season with a wrist injury.

Sandy are quickly falling out of finals contention, but it would have been nice to see Balic a few more times before the draft.

Could well be in contention for our pick if Parish is off the board (and if we take our first pick to the draft).

The TAC Cup Future Stars top 20:-

1. Brisbane - Jacob Weitering

2. Gold Coast - Joshua Schache

3. Sydney* - Callum Mills

4. Carlton - Aaron Francis

5. GWS* - Jacob Hopper

6. Essendon - Darcy Tucker

7. Melbourne - Darcy Parish

8. St. Kilda - Rhys Mathieson

9. Brisbane* - Ben Keays

10. Port Adelaide -Charlie Curnow

11. GWS* - Matthew Kennedy

12. Collingwood - Harley Balic

13. North Melbourne - Harry McKay

14. Adelaide - Ryan Burton

15. Geelong - Kieran Collins

16. Richmond - Sam Weideman

17. Western Bulldogs - Riley Bonner

18. Hawthorn - Kieran Lovell

19. Brisbane* - Eric Hipwood

20. West Coast - Callum Ah Chee

* Academy bid

The TAC Cup Future Stars top 20:-

1. Brisbane - Jacob Weitering

2. Gold Coast - Joshua Schache

3. Sydney* - Callum Mills

4. Carlton - Aaron Francis

5. GWS* - Jacob Hopper

6. Essendon - Darcy Tucker

7. Melbourne - Darcy Parish

8. St. Kilda - Rhys Mathieson

9. Brisbane* - Ben Keays

10. Port Adelaide -Charlie Curnow

11. GWS* - Matthew Kennedy

12. Collingwood - Harley Balic

13. North Melbourne - Harry McKay

14. Adelaide - Ryan Burton

15. Geelong - Kieran Collins

16. Richmond - Sam Weideman

17. Western Bulldogs - Riley Bonner

18. Hawthorn - Kieran Lovell

19. Brisbane* - Eric Hipwood

20. West Coast - Callum Ah Chee

* Academy bid

What position is Parish? Is he any good?

If Hawthorn get Lovell then god help us, he is an absolute star. Have grown up with him and boy can he play

What position is Parish? Is he any good?

He's a midfielder who can win his own ball, also possessing good spread and skills on the outside. Rhys Mathieson and Parish are the best midfielders (non-academy) in this draft, with Mathieson the better natural ball winner but Parish having slightly more polish at this stage. Both country lads who should be around the mark when we call out our first name. Darcy Tucker will also be right in contention as well. He suited up for North Ballarat in the VFL on the weekend and looked right at home. His composure and kicking were a class above for a kid of his age.

Edited August 10, 201510 yr by Mondê

Sounds like we'll still have access to the 3rd/4th best midfielder if we take our pick to the draft. DeGoey, Lever and Cockatoo were right in line behind Brayshaw if we'd secured that extra first rounder, but history's history. I've got a special feeling about Trengove and our club's next chapter in 2016.

There were plenty of second round steals last year, too. I'm gutted we couldn't find a way to get Touk Miller; his talent was obvious a mile off, but getting Nibbler, O-Mac and Frost wasn't a bad return at all.

Edited August 10, 201510 yr by Lamashtu

Assume no trades, here is my likely picks ...

Get 1st round - Darcy Parish, Darcy Tucker, Rhys Mathieson or Harley Balic (all mids)

Get 2nd round - Luke Partington or Jake Gresham (small mids), Mitch Hibberd or Brandon White (rebounding half backs)

Get 3rd round - Dylan Smith (big forward from WA who can ruck or stay as a key forward) or Callum Moore (big CHF from Calder... potential untapped)

Get 4th round - Yestin Eades, Blake Hardwick, Ben Crocker or Aidyn Johnson (mid/sml goalkicking fwds)

after watching our slow, B grade midfield in action once again, I say it's midfielders with genuine pace and then more midfielders with genuine pace.

I think we have to say for the next couple of drafts, we will only consider players with genuine pace who can kick the footy.

after watching our slow, B grade midfield in action once again, I say it's midfielders with genuine pace and then more midfielders with genuine pace.

I think we have to say for the next couple of drafts, we will only consider players with genuine pace who can kick the footy.

There aren't any this draft so what do we do?

Haven't had a good look at this years crop but from what I've seen I think Balic might have a pretty fair upside.

Curnow too.

I also believe that if we keep our picks, we'll be going for upside if possible.

I watched some of the Roosters v Cats VFL game recently.

DARCY TUCKER has pace, skills and toughness. Mixed in with ease. Nice left footer in mould of Hawks crop.

Great. You like him, we get it.

Barely anyone else is convinced though.

Great. You like him, we get it.

Barely anyone else is convinced though.

i like him to

has all the hallmarks of being james strauss mk 2. maybe harrison wigg too.

an underage half-back flanker who was expected to go into the midfield in his senior tac cup year, didn't, and now is being seen as a permanent rebounding half-back flanker.

has all the hallmarks of being james strauss mk 2. maybe harrison wigg too.

an underage half-back flanker who was expected to go into the midfield in his senior tac cup year, didn't, and now is being seen as a permanent rebounding half-back flanker.

I think guru Bob once said, "players with long necks play shorter than they are". Or did I make that up?

i like him to

A ringing endorsement if ever I saw one.

I liked Shuey. I liked Wines. I liked Greenwood. I lliked Brayshaw and Petracca. Tough kids.

Not Grgic, Morton, Toumpas types.

TUCKER is a ready made mid. Remember Joel Selwood. Great as an underager. Poor under 18 year so drafted at pick 7... the rest is history.

So you liked a bunch of obviously good players, and some ordinary ones. Great.

Tucker isn't even a mid, let alone ready made.

And Selwood was drafted later due to repeated issues with dodgy knees during juniors, not because of a lack of form.

His top age form was good when he played.