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  On 16/10/2014 at 03:28, rolly said:

i dont understand why we would use basically an end of rnd 1 pick for him when we could have gotten him for nothing in the pre-season draft instead?

what is the advantage of getting the two later more speculative when pick 23 would have a better chance for success in what i believe has been called an "even-talent pool" at the top end

I guess that those in the know may have has word that the Saints were going for him.....maybe.

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      On 16/10/2014 at 05:59, Bring-Back-Powell said:

    Re-draft Blease?

    After saying on radio he didn't see eye to eye with Roosy's gameplan? :wacko:

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      On 16/10/2014 at 06:03, monoccular said:

    I guess that those in the know may have has word that the Saints were going for him.....maybe.

    Well GWS offered 4 & 7 for pick 1 and the Saints knocked it back, so.... my only hunch is they want Petracca for themselves. If they were after McCartin he'd probably still be there by pick 4.

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      On 16/10/2014 at 04:44, Demon Disciple said:

    Come on down Jake Carlisle!

    Do you think the Saints would take Membrey instaed of him?

      On 16/10/2014 at 04:54, daisycutter said:

    or leave jetta on rookie list with a pay rise and a promise to go on list 2016, with guaranteed rookie upgrade 2015 for trenner's LTI

    much less fuss that way

    Just contracted for 2 years. I don't think you can rookie list in that instance?

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      On 16/10/2014 at 03:28, rolly said:

    i dont understand why we would use basically an end of rnd 1 pick for him when we could have gotten him for nothing in the pre-season draft instead?

    what is the advantage of getting the two later more speculative when pick 23 would have a better chance for success in what i believe has been called an "even-talent pool" at the top end

    Apparently they had 2 reasons

    1. They did not want to risk losing him to the Saints in the PSD

    2 and more interestingly they wanted to get him early to get an extra month's development into him.

    I find this quite an interesting and lateral solution.

    It possibly clarifies the clubs view on the draft outside the top 20.

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      On 16/10/2014 at 04:43, Redleg said:

    A big red rock eater.

    You are a natural at this, I can tell .... :blink:

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      On 16/10/2014 at 06:03, monoccular said:

    I guess that those in the know may have has word that the Saints were going for him.....maybe.

    Just happen to be listening to SEN about 2 hours ago. Apparently the saints were going for him in the PSD.

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      On 16/10/2014 at 06:42, Bitter but optimistic said:

    Just happen to be listening to SEN about 2 hours ago. Apparently the saints were going for him in the PSD.

    They put some thought into him...but only to make us pull the trigger early. They were always taking Membrey

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      On 16/10/2014 at 06:10, Demoneyes said:

    Do you think the Saints would take Membrey instaed of him?

    Just contracted for 2 years. I don't think you can rookie list in that instance?

    must have missed that. i thought we were going to elevate him from rookie list but didn't realise we already had

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      On 16/10/2014 at 06:54, daisycutter said:

    must have missed that. i thought we were going to elevate him from rookie list but didn't realise we already had

    We haven't. One of our picks is for that. I was just asking the question "Can you put someone on the rookie list if contracted for 2 years?"....and of course, why would you?

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    What's the situation with Winderlich? He retired but unretired and has yet to sign a contract?

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    Hasn't signed a contract. Could this be why we took Frost at 23? I'd be happy with that!

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    We wont take anyone in the PSD. We'll use our 6 picks in the national draft (including stretch/jetta picks) and two rookie draft picks and that will be all. I suspect we'll use pick 53 to target a mature age player however, eg Mitch Robinson, Jason Tutt or Taylor Hunt etc.

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      On 16/10/2014 at 07:23, Tall Defence said:

    We wont take anyone in the PSD. We'll use our 6 picks in the national draft (including stretch/jetta picks) and two rookie draft picks and that will be all. I suspect we'll use pick 53 to target a mature age player however, eg Mitch Robinson, Jason Tutt or Taylor Hunt etc.

    They will be soon delisted. Maybe Tutt won't.

    This is what I think; Evans is gone, he will be paid out and replaced on the list by ND40. McKenzie or Trengove will be on thin ice and the FD will have to see whether PSD2 or ND53 is an improvement on one of those two for 2015.

    Between now and the ND, we will try to lure an OOC player into the PSD where we have the first live pick with St Kilda taking Membrey. Should we be able to lure someone - we will delist McKenzie or Trengove.

    If we cannot lure anyone into the PSD, we will use ND53.

    If McKenzie and Trengove are delisted then we are using ND53 and PSD2.

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    Delisting Trenners would be pretty gutwrenching.

    I reckon Geelong looked pretty awful delisting Burbury after that shocking jaw incident.

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      On 16/10/2014 at 03:39, hogans_heroes said:

    really great idea re-signing Terlich hey

    this club can do literally nothing right

    I was wondering whether somebody would bring that up. I just never, never, never understood where we were heading with that one and the timing was just silly.

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      On 16/10/2014 at 04:37, Georgiou R.R. Martin said:

    5 left; Clark, Frawley, Byrnes, Clisby, Nicholson. 5 came: Stretch, Jetta, Lumumba, Garlett, Frost.

    Any player we delist from here on will then free up a draft spot. There are 3 obvious names and 3 obvious picks - 2, 3, 40. After that there are guys who could be paid out. Whether we would rather use pick 53 or PSD 2 obviously depends who is available at each spot. I could Jason Taylor and the rest of our recruiting team pushing to use a draft pick at 53 than wait for the PSD.

    has clisby gone as well as strauss or typo?

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    Ahmed Saad?

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    Clisby is gone as well as Nicho

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      On 16/10/2014 at 09:21, rolly said:

    has clisby gone as well as strauss or typo?

    The 5 that I've listed are gone and have been replaced. We are yet to here anything official about Blease or Strauss but I'm sure they are gone. Tapscott not as sure. Evans, less sure as he's contracted. Anyone else like McKenzie or Trengove is complete speculation.

    I don't think it will be long for Blease and Strauss to be official. That's pick 2 and 3. Everything after that I presume will take time over the next 2 weeks.

    Does anyone know about Georgiou? Will Frost coming in and the likelihood of a tall at one of the top picks, combined with Pedersen being a versatile option I don't see much point in keeping him. At the same time I understand he did a good job for us early last year.

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      On 16/10/2014 at 06:58, Demoneyes said:

    We haven't. One of our picks is for that. I was just asking the question "Can you put someone on the rookie list if contracted for 2 years?"....and of course, why would you?

    i'm confused now about your point (being confused is not unusual though)
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      On 16/10/2014 at 03:36, Georgiou R.R. Martin said:

    So far we have 0 list spots.

    And picks 2, 3, 40, 53, PSD 2.

    Unless we get to 4 delistings we wont use it.

    So far I can only see 3 delistings - Blease, Strauss, Tapscott

    Couldn't we arrange a deal for Blease lol? Wouldn't surprise me though.

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