CHANGES 2014 - Retirements, Trades and Delistings

[Demoneyes 562]

Pick 3 being our last live pick doesn't sit fantastically well with me I've got to say.

I hope Newton and Frost add something long term to the club, as they are essentially our second and third round picks. Taking non-22 players from other clubs at the expense of the draft seems risky, though I accept that the draft is risky too.

Interesting times.

Don't worry Nasher. Don't think it will be the case. I believe 40 will be used, and a list change to come soon.

Evans, Terlich and McKenzie I agree, but I reckon Matt Jones is good depth.

Don't agree here. Matt Jones is extremely overated. As my mate says " A good player for the opposition!"

[bing181 9,348]

There are no certainties with draft picks.

The difference between ND pick 40 and RD pick 2 is minimal, and the chances of that pick becoming A Player is equally low in both cases.

[Wilson7 2,688]

There are no certainties with draft picks.

The difference between ND pick 40 and RD pick 2 is minimal, and the chances of that pick becoming A Player is equally low in both cases.

It's actually ND 40 v Rookie pick 19. I know which one i would prefer to use

[Wilson7 2,688]

Pretty sure I read somewhere he Riley and Bail all signed one year deals.

Riley & Bail signed for 1, Terlich for 2 Dazzle

[Coq au vin 755]

When they had a contract?

yes

[Qwerty30 196]

yes

Names???

[CBDees 3,167]

It's actually ND 40 v Rookie pick 19. I know which one i would prefer to use

Or PSD No. 2.

[Gipsy Danger 1,067]

just read on a Melbourne supporters group facebook page that Tapscott trained with the group today. I guess he could be a chance at a rookie spot

[Deemotivated 550]

just read on a Melbourne supporters group facebook page that Tapscott trained with the group today. I guess he could be a chance at a rookie spot

I honestly don't see the point given his output since he was drafted.

[Moonshadow 17,678]

Daniel Pearce from WB delisted to be rookied again by them. Could Roos do another Riley?

[RalphiusMaximus 6,100]

When is the cutoff date for delistings? It must be some time before the draft to allow players the chance to nominate (although you'd think FA would work better).

[Whispering_Jack 30,949]

Time for a further update as a result of the departure of Dom Barry:-

2015 MELBOURNE LIST

Primary list


1. Bail, Rohan
2. Cross, Daniel
3. Dawes, Chris
4. Dunn, Lynden
5. Evans, Michael
6. Fitzpatrick, Jack
7. Frost, Sam
8. Garland, Colin
9. Garlett, Jeff
10. Gawn, Max
11. Grimes, Jack
12. Hogan, Jesse
13. Howe, Jeremy
14. Hunt, Jayden
15. Jamar, Mark
16. Jetta, Neville
17. Jones, Matt
18. Jones, Nathan
19. Kennedy-Harris, Jay
20. Kent, Dean
21. Lumumba, Heritier
22. McDonald, Tom
23. McKenzie, Jordie
24. Michie, Viv
25. Newton, Ben
26. Pedersen, Cameron
27. Riley, Aidan
28. Salem, Christian
29. Spencer, Jake
30. Stretch, Billy
31. Terlich, Dean
32. Toumpas, Jimmy
33. Trengove, Jack
34. Tyson, Dom
35. Vince, Bernie
36. Viney, Jack
37. Watts, Jack
38. National Draft Pick 2
39. National Draft Pick 3
40. National Draft Pick 40

Rookie list

41. Harmes, James
42. King, Max
43. Rookie Draft Pick 2
44. Rookie Draft Pick 20

The list might change with further list lodgement before the National Draft and possible delisted free agency inclusions but any additional draft picks can only be gained by delisting or retirement of players but note all current players are contracted.

[Whispering_Jack 30,949]

When is the cutoff date for delistings? It must be some time before the draft to allow players the chance to nominate (although you'd think FA would work better).

Today at 2.00pm.

[Barney Rubble 1,576]

A few players saved their careers this year with last chances to get their act together.

Bail, Pedersen, Jetta.

Perhaps 2015 could be the year Fitzpatrick, Jones (Matt), McKenzie, Spencer, Terlich, Toumpas, Trengove & Tappy if indeed he is picked up as a rookie.

If their attitude and fitness has been a problem, then it is fixable, but if it is ability then I'm afraid it's on your way sunshine.

There is a few SA boys that could supply us with some trade bait.

[Whispering_Jack 30,949]

And another update as a result of the delisting of Michael Evans:-

2015 MELBOURNE LIST

Primary list

1. Bail, Rohan
2. Cross, Daniel
3. Dawes, Chris
4. Dunn, Lynden
5. Fitzpatrick, Jack
6. Frost, Sam
7. Garland, Colin
8. Garlett, Jeff
9. Gawn, Max
10. Grimes, Jack
11. Hogan, Jesse
12. Howe, Jeremy
13. Hunt, Jayden
14. Jamar, Mark
15. Jetta, Neville
16. Jones, Matt
17. Jones, Nathan
18. Kennedy-Harris, Jay
19. Kent, Dean
20. Lumumba, Heritier
21. McDonald, Tom
22. McKenzie, Jordie
23. Michie, Viv
24. Newton, Ben
25. Pedersen, Cameron
26. Riley, Aidan
27. Salem, Christian
28. Spencer, Jake
29. Stretch, Billy
30. Terlich, Dean
31. Toumpas, Jimmy
32. Trengove, Jack
33. Tyson, Dom
34. Vince, Bernie
35. Viney, Jack
36. Watts, Jack
37. National Draft Pick 2
38. National Draft Pick 3
39. National Draft Pick 40
40. National Draft Pick 53

Rookie list

41. Harmes, James
42. King, Max
43. Rookie Draft Pick 2
44. Rookie Draft Pick 20

[old dee 23,922]

So we have to find six very good players

How can we do worse than most of the last decade.

I know nothing is guaranteed but it is hard to see us not improving the list.

[Lucifers Hero 40,488]

I'm pleased the club was able to achieve its list management/recruiting goals without de-listing Trengrove. He will be on the LTI and one of our rookies will be promoted at the start of the season. Gives the rookies are real incentive to work their butts off during the pre-season.

[chook fowler 19,675]

Jordie McKenzie can consider himself very lucky.

[CBDees 3,167]

I'm pleased the club was able to achieve its list management/recruiting goals without de-listing Trengrove. He will be on the LTI and one of our rookies will be promoted at the start of the season. Gives the rookies are real incentive to work their butts off during the pre-season.

Maybe if we did delist him and/or transfer him to the rookie list if would give us pick 2 in the PSD which may or may not be a proposition when we look at the other Club's delistings?

[old55 23,801]

10 new players added last year on the list.

11 new players this year (subject to re-rookie)

That's half the list.

[Redleg 41,759]

10 new players added last year on the list.

11 new players this year (subject to re-rookie)

That's half the list.

Correct. By the end of next year I believe we will have turned over about 70% of our list, of only a year ago.

[Wormburner 674]

Correct. By the end of next year I believe we will have turned over about 70% of our list, of only a year ago.

Wow, that is huge. However, completely necessary. We really had some average players on our team.

[Whispering_Jack 30,949]

Correct. By the end of next year I believe we will have turned over about 70% of our list, of only a year ago.

... and given the level of performance and attitudes of many who will have gone, an entirely necessary exercise.

[CBDees 3,167]

Wow, that is huge. However, completely necessary. We really had some average players on our team.

Just thinking about who we have recruited [and are predicted to pick], if they are all fit at round 1, it may be a difficult decision as to who to leave out? [e.g. Where do you play Grimes when you have a backline of Jetta, Dunn, Frost, HL, McDonald and Garland?]. This problem is repeated in both the midfield and the forwardline, with our likely incoming players.

Edited November 15, 2014 by CBDees

[Wormburner 674]

Just thinking about who we have recruited [and are predicted to pick], if they are all fit at round 1, it may be a difficult decision as to who to leave out? [e.g. Where do you play Grimes when you have a backline of Jetta, Dunn, Frost, HL, McDonald and Garland?]. This problem is repeated in both the midfield and the forwardline, with our likely incoming players.

A nice problem to have, for once....pick the best available player and team, regardless of how long the player has been around or their status on list.

Edited November 15, 2014 by Wormburner