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  On 30/10/2014 at 20:53, nutbean said:

I read somewhere that there is an unwritten rule against tagging in the TAC.

I find this bizarre. To provide the best education for juniors, taking this skill out of coaches arsenal is to the detriment of players. I use the example of Blease who in my opinion could have benefited at a TAC level a coach telling him to forget about collecting the ball and concentrate on shutting down his opponent. Only run off when your team has the ball.

Why wouldn't you teach real 2 way running at junior level and stopping techniques when it is such a big part of AFL.

There are a number of issues like this, and while I understand that they don't want to smother the talent there is nothing wrong with good old one on one footy as long as there is no scragging.

They also don't flood or stack the defence which I don't mind.

It means that bigger stronger forwards can dominate if the opposition don't have a suitable defender.

 
  On 30/10/2014 at 20:53, nutbean said:

I read somewhere that there is an unwritten rule against tagging in the TAC.

I find this bizarre. To provide the best education for juniors, taking this skill out of coaches arsenal is to the detriment of players. I use the example of Blease who in my opinion could have benefited at a TAC level a coach telling him to forget about collecting the ball and concentrate on shutting down his opponent. Only run off when your team has the ball.

Why wouldn't you teach real 2 way running at junior level and stopping techniques when it is such a big part of AFL.

This is another reason why the draft age should be increased so that these players can spend time in state leagues where there is more defensive pressure required.

This kid has STAR qualities. He is skilled, fast, athletic, smart and importantly gives a second & third effort. That is the definitive of what us required at AFL level. No injury history.

McCartin is a one effort type. Past injuries and weight needs controlling.

We need quality mids and now.

Brayshaw at 2 & Laverde at 3 for me.

 

Laverde appears to have more more arrows to his quiver than Blease, his forward marking, run and carry, and size are all equal or superior to Sam.


  On 30/10/2014 at 22:31, KingDingAling said:

He does look pretty good, so did Blease.

Laverde is no Blease... he attacks, defends, creates, evades and is bigger ... has the same pace.

  On 30/10/2014 at 21:30, Clint Bizkit said:

This is another reason why the draft age should be increased so that these players can spend time in state leagues where there is more defensive pressure required.

yep...the exact point raised by some in the 'raise the draft age thread"

Its so obvious its not really funny.

  On 28/10/2014 at 23:14, ChaserJ said:

Not sure on his two way running, he does have to work on his tank to become a midfielder.

What I haven’t seen from him is whether he can win a lot of his own ball in midfield. He looks like he could be a very good flanker/winger, but if I compare him to Bontempelli last year, Bontempelli spent time in the centre square for the Knights post champs.

He showed the ability to win clearances and operate very well in traffic (some of Bontempelli’s stuff last year was very much Pendlebury like) as a big bodied midfielder with pace. Laverde does appear to have good spatial awareness and that ability to create time and space, so he could potentially operate quite well in traffic, but that area of his game is an unknown (to me) at this stage.

I've got his nickname down pat already...

 
  On 31/10/2014 at 01:46, dee-luded said:

I've got his nickname down pat already...

La Forge ??

  On 31/10/2014 at 00:57, spirit of norm smith said:

Laverde is no Blease... he attacks, defends, creates, evades and is bigger ... has the same pace.

I just thought I'd throw it out there that Blease looked very impressive.

Laverde is explosive like Blease, how many explosive players have turned into stars?

Judd, Dangerfield, Rioli.. Either way it is a short list compared to those who fail.

All the same, I am not sure McCartin is any safer choice than Laverde.

But, he does have a very clean set of hands for a forward.


I love this kid. So creative and just able to turn a game.

i think he and brayshaw will prove the standouts of this draft.

Every time I hear this guys name I think of that baby that was mudered - Jaidyn Leskie.

I'm not sure I'm ready for another Jayden to go with Jayden Hunt.

I'm getting used to Jay and Jesse. Lynden took a while to get used to. I can handle Aidan and Dean's. Not huge on Jordie's and Billy's.

A pair of Jayden's including one with pick 3 in the draft. No thanks.

  On 31/10/2014 at 13:10, Georgiou R.R. Martin said:

Every time I hear this guys name I think of that baby that was mudered - Jaidyn Leskie.

I'm not sure I'm ready for another Jayden to go with Jayden Hunt.

I'm getting used to Jay and Jesse. Lynden took a while to get used to. I can handle Aidan and Dean's. Not huge on Jordie's and Billy's.

A pair of Jayden's including one with pick 3 in the draft. No thanks.

Yeah, let's not draft by first name. There must be a better strategy somewhere.....

We have a few too many Jack's for my liking....


  On 31/10/2014 at 02:42, KingDingAling said:

I just thought I'd throw it out there that Blease looked very impressive.

Laverde is explosive like Blease, how many explosive players have turned into stars?

Judd, Dangerfield, Rioli.. Either way it is a short list compared to those who fail.

All the same, I am not sure McCartin is any safer choice than Laverde.

But, he does have a very clean set of hands for a forward.

its not that they're too quick, its that some don't learn.

  On 31/10/2014 at 12:58, Norm Smith said:

I love this kid. So creative and just able to turn a game.

i think he and brayshaw will prove the standouts of this draft.

MFC TAKE NOTE ... don't be seduced by AFL.COM Paddy McCartin marketing exercise. He is a punt. We don't need to take punts.

Laverde has all the requirements to be a STAR. We need his talent, pace, skills and direct style. Too good to miss.

  On 31/10/2014 at 13:10, Georgiou R.R. Martin said:

Every time I hear this guys name I think of that baby that was mudered - Jaidyn Leskie.

I'm not sure I'm ready for another Jayden to go with Jayden Hunt.

I'm getting used to Jay and Jesse. Lynden took a while to get used to. I can handle Aidan and Dean's. Not huge on Jordie's and Billy's.

A pair of Jayden's including one with pick 3 in the draft. No thanks.

You're right about Jayden being a terrible name.

Lets not get him.

One is enough.

I'm sure the recruiters take all this stuff into account.

  On 01/11/2014 at 11:24, Biffen said:

You're right about Jayden being a terrible name.

Lets not get him.

One is enough.

I'm sure the recruiters take all this stuff into account.

but you must admit, its a bit better than jordan...

  On 01/11/2014 at 11:06, spirit of norm smith said:

MFC TAKE NOTE ... don't be seduced by AFL.COM Paddy McCartin marketing exercise. He is a punt. We don't need to take punts.

Laverde has all the requirements to be a STAR. We need his talent, pace, skills and direct style. Too good to miss.

Laverde is also a punt 'Norm', how many games have you seen him play?

...and as 'Nut' will say, they are all a punt at this age.


Rjay

... I have watched all the Vic metro, Vic country, SA and WA championships matches (including 3 of the Vic metro games live).

Laverde is not a punt.

  On 02/11/2014 at 10:52, spirit of norm smith said:

Rjay

... I have watched all the Vic metro, Vic country, SA and WA championships matches (including 3 of the Vic metro games live).

Laverde is not a punt.

Everyone in the draft is a punt.

  On 02/11/2014 at 10:52, spirit of norm smith said:

Rjay

... I have watched all the Vic metro, Vic country, SA and WA championships matches (including 3 of the Vic metro games live).

Laverde is not a punt.

Depends on how highly he rates your opinion though...

 

Good size, speed, skills

i like the kid, not sure if i'd pass up Brayshaw or McCartin though, can see him being a top 5 pick though, reckon the pies might have a serious look

  On 05/11/2014 at 09:43, Sir Paul Roos said:

Good size, speed, skills

i like the kid, not sure if i'd pass up Brayshaw or McCartin though, can see him being a top 5 pick though, reckon the pies might have a serious look

Apparently they are red hot for him.


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