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I'm not sure if you understood me? IMO take Brayshaw & Lever now, & let Petracca if he is still there, slide to GWS.... gut feel, I reckon he'll need 2 yrs to build his engine, as he's a power build. I think he'll struggle to run out games.

They'll have to play him as he develops, forcing another out of the team. End of 2015, time for us then to strike, to pickup one of theirs who wants to return. Then after 2 Yrs, see if Petracca is ready to come back to Vic for the 2017 season..

Petracca can play half forward if he hasn't got an engine. He can take a grab and can kick goals, it would be insane to let him slide. How do you know that Lever has an engine? He's been out for 18 months and never played in the midfield.

I think if we go for the Brayshaw, Petracca, Lever combo I think we will throw our money at Tomlinson, he's less known than Treloar and Sheil so the money we throw at him should scare the better clubs that are after him while throwing massive amounts of cash to Treloar or Sheil probably won't scare away the better clubs away as they are proven guns.

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I'm not sure if you understood me? IMO take Brayshaw & Lever now, & let Petracca if he is still there, slide to GWS..

Come on man

Have you learned nothing from the Ollie Wines debacle

The fact you wanna skip over Petracca is made 10 times worse by the free gift it would give to GWS

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Come on man

Have you learned nothing from the Ollie Wines debacle

The fact you wanna skip over Petracca is made 10 times worse by the free gift it would give to GWS

Ollie wines wasn't the highest touted kid in the land he was struggling to get thought of a s a top 5

this is the difference, he wasn't under as much expectation, but rather had a lot to prove, & he came into a great team on the up, which is strong in the Mids, so he could start of with no pressure adding a support role, to what was already a strong midfield.

this petracca is under a whole lot of pressure to perform. if he came to us there would be a lot of high pressure for him to star straight away. not good.

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Ollie wines wasn't the highest touted kid in the land he was struggling to get thought of a s a top 5

this is the difference, he wasn't under as much expectation, but rather had a lot to prove, & he came into a great team on the up, which is strong in the Mids, so he could start of with no pressure adding a support role, to what was already a strong midfield.

this petracca is under a whole lot of pressure to perform. if he came to us there would be a lot of high pressure for him to star straight away. not good.

Sounds right to me.

IIRC Port even bid on Viney with their first pick before we matched it, then took Wines in the draft.

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We would only hope to poach Petracca off GWS if he was good enough, and if he was good enough GWS wouldn't want to let him go. They only let us take Tyson because they saw him as excess stock- a mistake they'd be careful not to make again.

The idea of letting someone go to another club to get developed and then expect them to be gifted to us later is flawed in every way. It is the dumbest most idiotic idea I've ever heard. GWS will struggle to hold on to all their talent from a salary cap point of view, but to think it can be manipulated to suit our designs is the dumbest thing I've ever heard on this forum.

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Petracca can play half forward if he hasn't got an engine. He can take a grab and can kick goals, it would be insane to let him slide. How do you know that Lever has an engine? He's been out for 18 months and never played in the midfield.

I think if we go for the Brayshaw, Petracca, Lever combo I think we will throw our money at Tomlinson, he's less known than Treloar and Sheil so the money we throw at him should scare the better clubs that are after him while throwing massive amounts of cash to Treloar or Sheil probably won't scare away the better clubs away as they are proven guns.

Good post but think Tomlinson will be firmly in the Saints sites after Boyd moved a year earlier than expected.

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