How so? Doesn't that mean they would be totally surprised if he left, suggesting right now they don't believe he wants out?

It means he is positioning hmself for D's defection, feigning 'being staggered'. Otherwise he would just reiterate and confirm what is assumed, that Dangerfield is happy to stay at the club. Why even speculate, if they are so sure. Make sense?

It means he is positioning hmself for D's defection, feigning 'being staggered'. Otherwise he would just reiterate and confirm what is assumed, that Dangerfield is happy to stay at the club. Why even speculate, if they are so sure. Make sense?

his choice of the word "staggered" knowingly puts pressure on Dangerfield, trying to make him (Dangerfield) feel as if him leaving the crows would "shock" them, as they take him as being a "loyal/upstanding" member etc.

Typical mind games associated with this period of time. Can/will Danger withstand them? We shall see.

Edited September 29, 201411 yr by The Song Formerly Known As

Love Silly season

On a side note: Bomber "definitely not" approached by another club. Staying at Essendon is "ummm... an option."

Id like to think I hird something similar lama

last years coach at the bummers, should never coach in the afl again.

Who would want to go to Collingwood apart from Clark?

someone used to vertical lines, or stripes ?

It means he is positioning hmself for D's defection, feigning 'being staggered'. Otherwise he would just reiterate and confirm what is assumed, that Dangerfield is happy to stay at the club. Why even speculate, if they are so sure. Make sense?

I think this all hangs ion the announcement of the compo we will receive for Frawley if he goes. once that is official I feel all convoluted deals will fall into place quickly.

Don't think we'll get Dangerfield, don't think we particularly even want Dangerfield (but wouldn't say no).

But putting picks 2 and 3 out there sends a pretty clear message to all clubs: we're ready to deal.

This is at a point now where if Frawley actually stays he will be forever blamed for us not being able to trade for Dangerfield.

Probably best that James shoots thru.

Is it sad that when I read this post I could not help but lmao?

Oh and just realised noone had posted since last night and felt the topic needed further oxygen lol.

Patrick is not in MFC's Cart (yet) but he is definelty on the Wish List

Love Silly season

When does it start?

When does it start?

For Melbourne supporters April

Much as we all feel that Dangerfield will be a big boost to the Club, I am confident that we will see us use picks 2-3 to better effect and gaining 2-4 high calibre players for the midfield or a combination of key position and midfield options, citing last year's Tyson trade as an example.

ADELAIDE SAYS NO.
It was a nice dream, whilst it lasted.

http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/department-of-trade/adelaide-says-no-to-melbournes-offer-to-poach-star-midfielder-patrick-dangerfield/story-fna8vsun-1227073870024

Much as we all feel that Dangerfield will be a big boost to the Club, I am confident that we will see us use picks 2-3 to better effect and gaining 2-4 high calibre players for the midfield or a combination of key position and midfield options, citing last year's Tyson trade as an example.

I think that is and always has been the plan.

Mind you though if Dangerfield says he is not happy at the Crows then its good to see that our lines already in the water.

ADELAIDE SAYS NO.

It was a nice dream, whilst it lasted.

http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/department-of-trade/adelaide-says-no-to-melbournes-offer-to-poach-star-midfielder-patrick-dangerfield/story-fna8vsun-1227073870024

Doesn't necessarily mean it's over.

If we have been talking to Danger and he wants to come, the Crows would be mad to say no and risk getting nothing for him next season.

Headline should read: ADELAIDE PLAYS THE PR GAME.

ADELAIDE SAYS NO.

It was a nice dream, whilst it lasted.

http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/department-of-trade/adelaide-says-no-to-melbournes-offer-to-poach-star-midfielder-patrick-dangerfield/story-fna8vsun-1227073870024

Song I think they needed to say something and this seems the standard fare for clubs in this situation although they, like everyone else, are waiting to see what Patrick and his manager say when they sit down to discuss extending his contract post 2015

This depends 100% on what danger wants to do if he wants to leave picks 2 and 3 suddenly become a hell of a lot more tempting

ADELAIDE SAYS NO.

It was a nice dream, whilst it lasted.

http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/department-of-trade/adelaide-says-no-to-melbournes-offer-to-poach-star-midfielder-patrick-dangerfield/story-fna8vsun-1227073870024

we've knew about this. It's not new news. Have faith man

Do I really think we'll get him; probably not. That's Mr Reality

Do I really want him at Melbourne ; you bet !! That's Mr Hopeful

However the dance of subterfuge that is Trade season rarely moves to either a normal beat or recognisable choreography.

It is however a game of bluff, double bluff, counter bluff and bluff and bravado. Often things are not as they seem and even when they are they can change.

What we see currently is in the main clubs and players/managers testing the waters. They often can't be seen to be too enthusiastic about this or that lest a perceived value or price rises as a result. Some trades/moves become simple ( relatively ) Lumumba being a prime example; I'm outta here , I want to go there. Do it - make it happen.. Done

Then there's the rest. Opening gambits, tentative refusals ,coy interest, blatant lying, changes on the fly, opportunities seized. Any combination can happen , even all of the above. It's horse trading 101. What if, how about, not good enough , interested but.....and so we go on.

Though some things can be sorted prior to the commencement of the official trading period even as our learned poster Red Leg suggest some can be a very 'old deal ' a lot of deals only really gather legs and speed once other deals/trades happen. It's the domino effect. Sometimes some very surprising results happen that could not possibly have been realistically entertained at the beginning.

The thing is, players and clubs alike can change minds after a rethink or as other permutations unfold.

I still don't think its likely Danger will be a Dee, but I don't write it off out of hand as being 100% impossible either.

Words are words.... Actions can be vastly different

Edited September 29, 201411 yr by beelzebub

Good post bb.

Even with posters posting their 'inside' info - those who say we've been in close discussions with Adelaide and Dangerfield's manager and that a deal is brewing, and those that say Dangerfield has flat out rejected the idea of coming to the MFC could all be right, even if the information is conflicting. Even with the best and most current info - people can lie, and people can change their minds. I wouldn't ever categorically decide anything until the deal (or non-deal) is done.

I think it is a wonderful ploy to suggest we could offer pick 2 & 3 for Danger.

Every club would [censored] up their ears. Melbourne are seriously open to trading, what could we offer for 2 & 3 or just 2?

I have no doubt we are interested in Danger. I think it far more likely this will shake another deal out of the tree, probably with GWS. I expect another Tyson like deal rather than a superstar like Danger.

I hope we keep pick 2 and trade pick 3.

Edit: Can't say [censored]! Please administrators can we fix that?

Edited September 30, 201411 yr by ManDee

Good post bb.

Even with posters posting their 'inside' info - those who say we've been in close discussions with Adelaide and Dangerfield's manager and that a deal is brewing, and those that say Dangerfield has flat out rejected the idea of coming to the MFC could all be right, even if the information is conflicting. Even with the best and most current info - people can lie, and people can change their minds. I wouldn't ever categorically decide anything until the deal (or non-deal) is done.

I don't have any new information, and no idea what Dangerfield will do.

But everything I was told, and posted, has gone public in the last 24 hours.

Suit yourself, but I'm taking refuge in the confirmation of interest and offers. Gotta be in it to win it.

If the trade were to happen I can see both sides right now posturing to blame the other for the trade. Adelaide are saying no we want to keep him which makes it look like dangerfield requested the trade while danger and his manager say they want to stay which makes it look like Adelaide couldn't refuse this trade.

As an aside , how marvelously it seems to have slipped under the noses of many that we MUST ( heads up from awful house likely ) be getting pick 3 and Frawley is definitely gone ( no surprise granted )

I think we should tune up the auto censor.

These words should be acceptable, [censored] ([censored]) as in spike, [censored] (bltch) as in to complain.

When you allow [censored] or fukker it seems somewhat churlish.

Happy for you to delete this.