To those of you with short memories, I take you back to 1980 when Barassi was The Messiah. It came to nought. Why? Simple, the cattle were emaciated critters, old recycled has-beens like Keenan and Crosswell, and a bunch of second raters with the exception of Flower.

Then, round about 87 after Northey came on board things turned around. I'm sure it wasn't because Northey was a better coach than Barassi, I'm sure the ensuing success co-coincided with the arrival of Stynes, Wight, Spalding,Brett Lovett, Lovell, Dean, Hughes, O'Dwyer, Stretch, Yeats, Greg Healey and some more than handy troopers like Eishold etc. Then along came Lyon, Tingay, Jackovich, Glen Lovett, later Scwartz and Neitz and Yze etc etc etc.

Roos is aware of this, that's why he constantly reiterates that we need better players.

Bring them on, the new and better players.

I've said it before, Roos has done as much as he can do with this list. Most of our starting 18 would be depth (at best) at an afl level club. 14 players will be gone this year.

I've said it before, Roos has done as much as he can do with this list. Most of our starting 18 would be depth (at best) at an afl level club. 14 players will be gone this year.

You have my vote Pipefitter I have been saying that since 2011.

Not sure where all the "we are about to do a Port Adelaide" have gone

what we need is a good twenty or so first round draft picks including half-a-dozen in the top 5 of the draft. That is a complete overhaul of quality talent.

oh wait... we already received that over the last 7 years and it amounted to zero

Barrassi actually took us off the bottom and although he did not take us to finals. It was around the period when he fought with Zantuck at Waverley (if you can remember Zantuck finger pointing to Barassi as his opponent from Essendon a young Mark Harvey rans rings around him) that we started to win a few games ( I think we won 5 in a row) only to be brought down to earth by Essendon.

He was teaching young players coming through like Gerard and Greg Healy, Russell Richards, Gaddy Lyon and brought in Moore and Templeton. There was genuine excitement but it didn't quite work out.

Then Northey came in and remarkably we were able to secure interstaters in Spalding, Stretch and Viney who were able to make an immediate impact all at the same time.

Under Northey they were so united. Mathews at Collingwood said we were the kings of the one percenters, taps on etc. Yet we also had 'battling' types in Dean Chiron, Bailey, Eishold who were able to eek out a few games and do a job, but really weren't going to compete with elite midfields at Carlton and Hawthorn.

I also remember we were a long kicking side under Northey, That was one of our keys. Danny Hughes, Spalding, Warren Dean, Stretch, Newport even Gaddy and Flower could all roost the ball !!

oh to get that excitement back.

I've said it before, Roos has done as much as he can do with this list. Most of our starting 18 would be depth (at best) at an afl level club. 14 players will be gone this year.

I agree. Sadly though, the AFL don't even realise how bad our list is.

We desperately need assistance, even if it isn't a PP, we need extra cap space - and the money to spend 100% of it.

The gap between MFC and Sydney Swans is a farce.

Pretty sure Barassi laid the foundations for Northey to build on - if it wasn't for Barassi and Slug Jordan we wouldn't have been as "successful" under Northey.

Well we just re-signed Dean Terlich

theres a spot gone that could have been given to a good player

no ideas what Roos is doing tbh

What we need is a full time coach, not another Blight, could have coached any team he liked at any time but chose MFC after repeartedly stating will never coach again, but i can only do it for 2 years, but if you find another bag of sh*tloads i can hang around for 3

The next messiah of the MFC probably hasn't even been born yet.

Well we just re-signed Dean Terlich

theres a spot gone that could have been given to a good player

no ideas what Roos is doing tbh

Plus Bail and Riley

They are all VFL in my eyes but I guess you have to have someone on the list over the next two years.

There's no Messiah - only a very naughty boy.

Well we just re-signed Dean Terlich

theres a spot gone that could have been given to a good player

no ideas what Roos is doing tbh

Just wait a week, you will think differently.

Just wait a week, you will think differently.

I was wondering what the heck you were talking about there, until I realised who you were responding to.

The next messiah of the MFC probably hasn't even been born yet.

Disappointing that Neita had a girl this week.

What could have been...

Well we just re-signed Dean Terlich

theres a spot gone that could have been given to a good player

no ideas what Roos is doing tbh

Realistically, none of them have any trade value. Delist them and with the cap saved you can probably only fill the spots with players of the same quality.

Disappointing that Neita had a girl this week.

What could have been...

Would still go harder at the contest than bloody Watts