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Petracca,hhhmmmm sniffs a lot like Frank Zappa after a long plane flight.

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Can someone please remind me why we are now all hyped on getting Pteracca again? Whose Grandma said the saints don't want him?

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Correction: These boys are just so happy to be playing together at the Demons

Some people, even in the brightest of moments, just have to find a negative. C'mon, get happy.

These guys may be the start of a new dynasty at Melbourne. All we need is to start winning and these guys will be with us for a long time.

Best draft in a long time. The glass is overflowing!

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Some people, even in the brightest of moments, just have to find a negative. C'mon, get happy.

These guys may be the start of a new dynasty at Melbourne. All we need is to start winning and these guys will be with us for a long time.

Best draft in a long time. The glass is overflowing!

Think you are right crawf.

The last 2 drafts{roos best known quality}have been good.

Should be a great time to get a membership for anybody fencesitting.

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Think you are right crawf.

The last 2 drafts{roos best known quality}have been good.

Should be a great time to get a membership for anybody fencesitting.

What has me excited is not only the quality coming in but Roos constant theme that "these kids should not be the saviors of the club and we must develop them". The club has backed Roos and put money into the development side.

When you learn to develop kids properly and not pressure them too early that is exactly what might happen - they well may indeed become the saviors of the club.

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Simon Goodwin would be thrilled with the young group that's forming at the club, should take us over in very good shape

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Thought i heard last night that one of our new recruits came from beverly hills FC,same as PR.

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Thought i heard last night that one of our new recruits came from beverly hills FC,same as PR.

Heard that too.

I believe he started at Park Orchards Sharks as a young kid then at some point wandered over to Beverley Hills JFC

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Imagine if st kilda came to us during trade week and said "we will trade you pick 1 for pick 2?" Because according to just about every recruiter for 98% of the last 12months that's what they have done! Could not be happier with our drafting last night!

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I'm very pleased with the way things have turned out.

Whilst I kept trying to console myself with the fact McCartin was highly rated and we'd have 2 blue chip key forwards, the envy of a lot of teams, I just couldn't see it.

I'm sure McCartin will be a capable player.

Good attitude. Competitive. Big enough.

But probably not as big as I'd like.

What are the attributes that set him apart?

I don't see competitiveness and aggression like you see in Hogan or Viney.

He doesn't get knocked over on field, but he doesn't knock too many others over, and won't when they're his size and bigger.

Not particularly fast or agile, average at ground level for his size, not amazing endurance.

For all the hype of him being a "one grab" KPF, I recall seeing him juggle a lot of marks as his smaller opponents fell over around him.

Kicking is decidedly average.

I think St Kilda was sold on the player they need him to be rather than the one he is or will be.

I'm not trying to talk McCartin down.

I'm just delirious to have 2 blue chip mids, exactly what we need, instead of 1 and a forward that I'm not convinced on, despite him being firmly in the spotlight for 2 years +.

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I would think the majority would have had the 2 mids as our absolute best case scenario, it was Petracca seemingly on his way to STK that muddied the waters.

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Petracca is a big lump of a lad who is also a very good contested mark, wouldn't be surprised to see him playing at Centre half forward in the future, working into the midfield,kinda like our main go to player when Brayshaw , Viney, Jones, or Tyson extracts it from the centre.

With Hogan at full forward we would be pretty hard to stop.

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Petracca is a big lump of a lad who is also a very good contested mark, wouldn't be surprised to see him playing at Centre half forward in the future, working into the midfield,kinda like our main go to player when Brayshaw , Viney, Jones, or Tyson extracts it from the centre.

With Hogan at full forward we would be pretty hard to stop.

Positions are kind of useless, but I get the theory. I think he will start his career in the forward line at AFL level as Salem, Kent and others have recently. But I can definitely see us going Petracca's paddock if he develops to his full potential especially when games open up late. Richmond did this so well with Dusty Martin this year and Adelaide have done it with Dangerfield.

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I'm extremely happy to see the names we called out this year, however - those saying 'this is our best draft ever/in a long time' - that is impossible to tell at this stage, and impossible to tell for at least a couple of years until we see the kinds of players these highly touted youngsters become.

It looks good at this stage, but some need to keep a lid on it, plz. For all we know these two could be the next Scully/Trengove combo.

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I'm extremely happy to see the names we called out this year, however - those saying 'this is our best draft ever/in a long time' - that is impossible to tell at this stage, and impossible to tell for at least a couple of years until we see the kinds of players these highly touted youngsters become.

It looks good at this stage, but some need to keep a lid on it, plz. For all we know these two could be the next Scully/Trengove combo.

Yeah, that is possible... But, Brayshaw has a FAR superior inside game to both Scully and Trengove - and Brayshaw compares well with Martin/Wines, who have transitioned very well into the AFL. Brayshaw does all the 1% plays, he tackles, gathers, crashes, bashes, he is a go-getter - and a dual sided player. IMO Brayshaw is an even safer bet than Jack Viney was.

Petracca is more likely to bust than Brayshaw - but also has a higher ceiling. But even drawing comparisons between Petracca and Scully/Trengove, I'd say that Petracca is no doubt the better athlete - and one of the better athletes to comes through since Dangerfield - and also Petracca is physically stronger than Scully/Trengove, arguably better on the inside than both, and stronger in nearly all areas. Trengove was definately classier than Petracca, and hit more targets, looked more silkier - but Petracca is FAR more damaging on the scoreboard than either Scully or Trengove was. In watching a fair amount of Scully pre-draft, a little bit of Trengove and Petracca, I'd say that Petracca is more dominant than Scully/Trengove.

One thing that stood out in Petraccas highlights is his confidence and absolute dominance on the field.

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I'm extremely happy to see the names we called out this year, however - those saying 'this is our best draft ever/in a long time' - that is impossible to tell at this stage, and impossible to tell for at least a couple of years until we see the kinds of players these highly touted youngsters become.

It looks good at this stage, but some need to keep a lid on it, plz. For all we know these two could be the next Scully/Trengove combo.

The fact that they are both much more physically mature than both Scully and Trengove, (especially Scully) is one of many reasons why these two are much more likely to have a genuine impact early. I'm pretty sure both weigh more than Scully and Trengove even now. Not only that. These two are much more aggressive in the way that they play.

The other reasons are obvious. They'll be developed appropriately. They'll be playing in a deeper and more competitive midfield. Under the tutelage of competent and driven leaders. The list goes on.

Supporters have the right to be excited. I find it baffling that there are still comparisons of these two with drafts of previous years. There are differences on so many levels. They just don't compare.

We were always bound to get our club to a stage where it is ready to develop the right talent.

And I'm confident this will be it. We've never been in a more solid position.

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Think you are right crawf.

The last 2 drafts{roos best known quality}have been good.

Should be a great time to get a membership for anybody fencesitting.

Make that 3. 2012 draft wasn't too shabby either.

Hogan

Toumpas (Still think he is going to be a gun. You don't lose the skills you came in with. You just battle injuries, bad coaching, loss of confidence. Roosy will fix him)

Dawes

Pedersen (Who would have thought. I admit I was having fits over this choice)

Jack Viney

Dean Kent (Starting to look like he's going to be a really good player)

Matt Jones ( Has done his job until decent players arrived. Don't see him getting a great deal of game time anymore)

The rest including Terlich were junk picks so didn't cost anything to go in and to go out.

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I'm not trying to talk McCartin down.

Ha! I love it.

Don't worry I looked for all the reasons we didn't want him either in case we didn't get him and I have to say you've done a better job than me and on the other side spent time finding all the reasons we did want him if we did get him.

I also couldn't be happier. Petracca is definitely a safer bet than Paddy. Paddy could end up being a Roughead and if he does good luck to a fellow cellar dweller team. But we could well have the next Dangerfield without getting Dangerfield. And have the money to get Jeremy Cameron next year who there's obviously no comparison with big Paddy. So could be a triple win.

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