Is this an admission of Tanking?

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/saints-may-trade-their-top-pick-20140718-zuobl.html

6 games till EOS and only 1 game (+%) behind BL and us and Saints are talking of trading their #1 pick!!!! To add to this they are going to request a PP.

Sinking to the bottom is a deliberate, much advertised strategy to re-build. The gaul to request a PP and the hubris around having the #1 pick are just shocking. Such a strategy smacks of rorting the system.

Based on the first quarter today, Saints aren't tanking.

Still miles ahead in percentage even if they win today though.

Saints are killing Freo

up by 40

Saints are killing Freo

up by 40

Freo are starting to find their groove though. I'd still be backing the dockers.

Keep a close eye on West Coke as well. They are masters at the art.

absolutely....totally agree.

Freo are starting to find their groove though. I'd still be backing the dockers.

Be surprised if the Dockers get up.

Freo are starting to find their groove though. I'd still be backing the dockers.

This stat means little but the Dockers have never won when trailing by more than 32 points at half time, so history is not on their side... but they are playing St. Kilda.

As a little side note Col Sylvia only has 4 possessions and has been putrid for the Dockers yet again.

Pelchen will be stressing out. His whole 'havnt won since round 5' argument about to go out the window.

Keep a close eye on West Coke as well. They are masters at the art.

Masters of a few arts and one of them is not getting caught. Were well ahead of the game in building strong bodies.

We could very easily finish last this year, especially if the saints win tonight

The Aints will get nothing if they win this

Memo to Roosy: Yes, Freo are a mature side who do the right things over and over. But they also can be broken and made to look very ordinary with pressure and quick ball movement.

Also, thank god we offloaded Sylvia when we did.

Edited July 19, 201411 yr by P-man

Wow, poor call by my self.

This stat means little but the Dockers have never won when trailing by more than 32 points at half time, so history is not on their side... but they are playing St. Kilda.

As a little side note Col Sylvia only has 4 possessions and has been putrid for the Dockers yet again.

That's interesting. After I posted that initial comment, I wondered whether the Dockers super defensive game plan could dig them into a hole when down by a reasonable margin.

Amazing what happens when you actually try to score goals

Hope Paul Roos is watching and realizing that

Theres no way the Saints have that much of a better team than us

Edited July 19, 201411 yr by hogans_heroes

Take Pav outta Freo and I'm not sure they would have got over 30 points til 3/4 time.

Edited July 19, 201411 yr by Gorgoroth

Memo to Roosy: Yes, Freo are a mature side who do the right things over and over. But they also can be broken and made to look very ordinary with pressure and quick ball movement.

Also, thank god we offloaded Sylvia when we did.

Had a wonderful Silvia moment, like I've been saying for ages he is just not that good. Forget potential, he played to it. No footy smarts, no peripheral vision. Blazed away at goal...reminded me of the good old days of Silvia and Maloney... ping the ball in to no one. ha...

Roos pulled a good one on Rossy offloading Silvia.

Take Pav outta Freo and I'm not sure they would have got over 30 points til 3/4 time.

Pav is a champion of the game who always rose to the top back when Freo were horrible, so no surprise to see him do it today.

When the gameplan falls apart, the quality of their individuals is exposed. This will really hurt them and puts an enormous dent in their flag hopes.

Of all the teams to do it to Lyon, it had to be the Sainters.

Had a wonderful Silvia moment, like I've been saying for ages he is just not that good. Forget potential, he played to it. No footy smarts, no peripheral vision. Blazed away at goal...reminded me of the good old days of Silvia and Maloney... ping the ball in to no one. ha...

Roos pulled a good one on Rossy offloading Silvia.

I still believe the club didn't care one bit when he left. We probably tried, outwardly, to keep him but behind close doors we were probably happy to see the back of him and use the compo pick on someone like Vince who has given us more consistency than Sylvia did in his time at the club.

It's fair to say that GWS could do what they want and remain untouchable. Their last few efforts are dead set sus. Surely it can't be Phat Phil's recruiting. All he had to say was 'let's take the first 8 in the draft and keep three first round picks'. Hate those pracks.

It's fair to say that GWS could do what they want and remain untouchable. Their last few efforts are dead set sus. Surely it can't be Phat Phil's recruiting. All he had to say was 'let's take the first 8 in the draft and keep three first round picks'. Hate those pracks.

Love your vitriol RTG!

Masters of a few arts and one of them is not getting caught. Were well ahead of the game in building strong bodies.

Yes rjay but it was all legit surely as the Chemist would have known if certain substances were being taken by his players. Apparently he had suspicions about Cousins and Kerr and Flatline but that was all. Whoosher always played to win so it was odd that the WC could bottom out only two years or so after a premiership but that was just bad luck for them.

Yes rjay but it was all legit surely as the Chemist would have known if certain substances were being taken by his players. Apparently he had suspicions about Cousins and Kerr and Flatline but that was all. Whoosher always played to win so it was odd that the WC could bottom out only two years or so after a premiership but that was just bad luck for them.

Talking about a lot earlier than that 'Earl' when Mick was in charge. They miraculously bulked up over one pre season, had the best fitness and weights coach in the land obviously since no one had or has since seen that sort of change in body shape across the board. Not with legit methods anyway.

Based on the first quarter today, Saints aren't tanking.

Still miles ahead in percentage even if they win today though.

well, not since Gillons home details were talked out the other night, anyhow... & add Lenny's retirement plans. wonder how pelcho feels atmo? time will tell...

Pav is a champion of the game who always rose to the top back when Freo were horrible, so no surprise to see him do it today.

When the gameplan falls apart, the quality of their individuals is exposed. This will really hurt them and puts an enormous dent in their flag hopes.

Of all the teams to do it to Lyon, it had to be the Sainters.

Freo could also be in the midst of some hard work. It's 6 weeks out from finals action & they may be at the end of some hard running work, getting more miles into the legs prior to September.

They may have given them an even harder mid week, as it was against the Sainters.

Freo could also be in the midst of some hard work. It's 6 weeks out from finals action & they may be at the end of some hard running work, getting more miles into the legs prior to September.

They may have given them an even harder mid week, as it was against the Sainters.

Lyon said they had a light week (source: in his press conference).