ANZAC Day

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I know there are a couple of ANZAC day discussions at the moment surrounding our (the MFC) involvement and the game itself. But I wanted to quickly dedicate my gratitude to the men and women who serve or who have served in the armed forces and remember and celebrate the sacrifice the MFC and it's players have made over the years.

I didn't know much about our B&F Award Winner trophy name sake and wanted to share a couple of quick videos

There are many more and please share as well.... But I really think the MFC is under represented on the day by the AFL but most of all I think the sacrafice of these men and women in a time of great need should always be remember and honoured

Lest we forget

[Whispering_Jack 27,984]

The war to end war

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Thanks for your contribution WJ

Also thanks to Demon wiki for providing the list of MFC players who paid the ultimate sacrifice

http://demonwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=players+who+died+during+war

First World War

Player Date Location Jim Bonelli 24 May, 1918 France Cliff Burge 14 August 1918 Villers-Bretonneux, France Jack Doubleday 30 October 1918 Died at sea of illness, Indian Ocean Bill Fischer 15 October 1917 Belgium Albert Gourlay 1 November 1918 England from wounds suffered in France with the New Zealand army Mal Kennedy 2 January 1918 Belgium Frank Lugton 29 July 1916 Villers-Bretonneux, France Jim Mackie 20 March, 1917 Bapaume, France Fen McDonald 25 April, 1915 Gallipoli, Turkey Alick Ogilvie 18 August, 1915 Malta Joe Pearce 25 April, 1915 Gallipoli, Turkey Harold Rippon 16 January 1917 France Percy Rodriguez 20 March, 1917 The Somme, France Bobby Royle 3 November 1916 France Alf Williamson 11 April, 1917 Bullecourt, France Second World War Player Date Location Syd Anderson May 20, 1944 Wewak, New Guinea Jack Atkins March 1, 1942 Sunda Strait, off Java Harold Ball February 9, 1942 Singapore Ron Barassi Sr July 31, 1941 Tobruk, Libya Noel Ellis July 6, 1942 Queensland Clyde Helmer April 24, 1945 Aitapi, New Guinea Derek Mollison 19 December 1943 Rockhampton Ted Regan July 9, 1943 over Burma Beres Reilly July 23, 1943 over Crete Archie Roberts June 6, 1945 as a Japanese prisoner of war Keith Truscott March 28, 1943 accident at Exmouth Gulf, Western Australia Barney Wood June 9, 1941 Litani River, Syria Other Players Player Date Location Charles Stewart June 1942 former seconds player - killed in an aircraft accident

We as MFC supporters haven't had a lot to celebrate recenty but I am very proud of our club's history and sacrifice to the Country and the sport we love. We should be extremly proud to have been represnted by great men and women on this list and throughout the past.

I know the day is to represent all who have surved and to pay respect to those who paid the ultimate price for the freedoms we enjoy today - But I do feel proud as a MFC supporter on this day

A good day to reflect and never forget.....

[camillo 106]

Being an ex soldier from the vietnam era it never ceases to amaze me that the main promoters of the glory of war are people that have never been near the armed forces or armed conflict.

[Whispering_Jack 27,984]

Being an ex soldier from the vietnam era it never ceases to amaze me that the main promoters of the glory of war are people that have never been near the armed forces or armed conflict.

For those of our generation who served in Vietnam, this chilling song serves to remind us of the horrors of that period -

[old dee 22,854]

Being an ex soldier from the vietnam era it never ceases to amaze me that the main promoters of the glory of war are people that have never been near the armed forces or armed conflict.

I have a cousin and two friends who were there camillo the three most peaceful people I know.

I hope today is peaceful for you.

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My father and step father flew for the RAAF and RAF during the second world war....My father was awarded the DFC for downing 3 German bombers over London......My Step father was shot down flying bombers over Buma against the Japanese and was wounded.

They never talked about the war....Both have gone now but on days like this I remember....I also remember the jungles of Vietnam.

Time to go and get pizzed.....I think

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Being an ex soldier from the vietnam era it never ceases to amaze me that the main promoters of the glory of war are people that have never been near the armed forces or armed conflict.

Hi camillo

Firstly I want to say I think you're correct and apologies ad I didn't mean to offend you or anyone.

As a non services person I do find this time of year awkward as it's hard not to be disrespectful I knowing how to pay respect (I went to the dawn service but also wanted to reflect more specific people) I've had family serve in Vietnam and in ww2 and have mates who have served in Afghanistan like a lot of us would, I simply want to pay my respect to all who have volunteered or were conscripted or fought that gave us the freedoms we enjoy today. Maybe this is wrong type of discussion and the wrong way to remember them, I admit I don't know where the line is.

Since this is an mfc site and discussion I thought I'd relate it to the club and share some memories of brave mfc services men. I sincerely apologize to anyone I offended.

Mods feel free to delete... Thank you

[Sir Why You Little 34,496]

For those of our generation who served in Vietnam, this chilling song serves to remind us of the horrors of that period -

He was going home in June.....

Gets me every time that line...

[monoccular 16,073]

Hi camillo

Firstly I want to say I think you're correct and apologies ad I didn't mean to offend you or anyone.

As a non services person I do find this time of year awkward as it's hard not to be disrespectful I knowing how to pay respect (I went to the dawn service but also wanted to reflect more specific people) I've had family serve in Vietnam and in ww2 and have mates who have served in Afghanistan like a lot of us would, I simply want to pay my respect to all who have volunteered or were conscripted or fought that gave us the freedoms we enjoy today. Maybe this is wrong type of discussion and the wrong way to remember them, I admit I don't know where the line is.

Since this is an mfc site and discussion I thought I'd relate it to the club and share some memories of brave mfc services men. I sincerely apologize to anyone I offended.

Mods feel free to delete... Thank you

I don't see any reason for offence.

What I do find offensive in a way is the promotion of the Anzac day players as some sort of heroes - implying that they put their lives on the line in a manner similar to the poor buggers who landed at Gallipoli, and before and since wherever war is raged.

I do find the photos of team captains on the steps of the Shrine of Remembrance quite offensive, as I find the hype from the ground announcers prior to the game.

They are after all only going to play a game of footy - someone will win, someone will lose, and they will all go home after a nice meal and tuck into their warm comfortable beds, perhaps with a few bruises. A very unlucky one may break a bone, that will heal after receiving world class medical care. No semblance of comparison.

That does NOT make them heroes, and especially not on Anzac Day!!!!

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I dont mind seeing the captains with there photos outside the shrine. I think thats more the newspapers wanting that photo. I think its important that people know all about Anzac Day and the different battles that went on. I worked with someone at the start of the week who didnt even know Anzac Day was today.

I have friends in there 30's who dont even know what Kokoda was all about and if I asked them what ANZAC stood for I dont think they would know.

What I dont agree with is the AFL doing the ANZAC ceremonies at each ground. Last year we had sunday games and were still doing the ceremony. It just didnt feel the same. ANZAC day is Anzac day and the ceremony should be for that day only.