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I just don't get the hate for our ex players

If it makes you feel better......Carry on...

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    I just don't get the hate for our ex playersIf it makes you feel better......Carry on...

    oh kum by yah...Namaste...sorry. Didnt realise it was a great love-in.

    In all seriousness though must we have unconditional fawning and worship of players ? For mine they need to earn respect and admiration.

    As a person..dont know dont need to dont want to. Goes for all really as im not looking to extend my social sphere with player buddies. I just view them ad players. Whilst at Melbourne 1 would hope they seek to maximise the opportunity and play to their fullest abilities.They are after all professionals ( i wonder with some ) and as such id want honesty in efforts.

    Col Sylvia was one of the mist divisive players to have ever found their way onto our list. There was the talented Sylvia, put in an occasional cameo, there was the Larrikin Sylvia, never far away and the laconic Sylvia who seemed the one most often in the jumper at games.

    This guy seemed permanently in cruise mode and all on handy coin.

    Yeah...lets build a shrine for the bloke..over to whoever can be bothered.

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    oh kum by yah...Namaste...sorry. Didnt realise it was a great love-in.

    In all seriousness though must we have unconditional fawning and worship of players ? For mine they need to earn respect and admiration.

    As a person..dont know dont need to dont want to. Goes for all really as im not looking to extend my social sphere with player buddies. I just view them ad players. Whilst at Melbourne 1 would hope they seek to maximise the opportunity and play to their fullest abilities.They are after all professionals ( i wonder with some ) and as such id want honesty in efforts.

    Col Sylvia was one of the mist divisive players to have ever found their way onto our list. There was the talented Sylvia, put in an occasional cameo, there was the Larrikin Sylvia, never far away and the laconic Sylvia who seemed the one most often in the jumper at games.

    This guy seemed permanently in cruise mode and all on handy coin.

    Yeah...lets build a shrine for the bloke..over to whoever can be bothered.

    Hey bb, can you clarify what you mean by "divisive"? Do you mean he was divisive within the club or that he divided opinions among supporters? Two very different things, although you could mean both.

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    Divisive of supporters. My bad for not clarifying.

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    oh kum by yah...Namaste...sorry. Didnt realise it was a great love-in.

    In all seriousness though must we have unconditional fawning and worship of players ? For mine they need to earn respect and admiration.

    As a person..dont know dont need to dont want to. Goes for all really as im not looking to extend my social sphere with player buddies. I just view them ad players. Whilst at Melbourne 1 would hope they seek to maximise the opportunity and play to their fullest abilities.They are after all professionals ( i wonder with some ) and as such id want honesty in efforts.

    Col Sylvia was one of the mist divisive players to have ever found their way onto our list. There was the talented Sylvia, put in an occasional cameo, there was the Larrikin Sylvia, never far away and the laconic Sylvia who seemed the one most often in the jumper at games.

    This guy seemed permanently in cruise mode and all on handy coin.

    Yeah...lets build a shrine for the bloke..over to whoever can be bothered.

    I get your point.....Just don't agree with the idea that when a player leaves us for whatever reason, posters are over the moon when they fail at another club....Just have a look at the Mitch Clarke thread......Posters are happy that a player is injured and bragging that they picked this....I find it rather pathetic.

    kum by ya it might be, but it is better than putting knives into blokes back because they don't reach the standards poster expect

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    I get your point.....Just don't agree with the idea that when a player leaves us for whatever reason, posters are over the moon when they fail at another club....Just have a look at the Mitch Clarke thread......Posters are happy that a player is injured and bragging that they picked this....I find it rather pathetic.

    kum by ya it might be, but it is better than putting knives into blokes back because they don't reach the standards poster expect

    Boss after Clark betrayed Big Jimma's number 11 he will never reach high standards in my view, regardless of a foot injury or not.

    Jimma played with weekly injuries

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    I get your point.....Just don't agree with the idea that when a player leaves us for whatever reason, posters are over the moon when they fail at another club....Just have a look at the Mitch Clarke thread......Posters are happy that a player is injured and bragging that they picked this....I find it rather pathetic.

    kum by ya it might be, but it is better than putting knives into blokes back because they don't reach the standards poster expect

    There is a certain amount of petty schadenfreude in this for Dees supporters but there is also a dislike for being force-fed BS, and that is what we got with this nonsense about the need for a 'different environment' that through some convoluted reasoning has meant being at a different AFL club over the Westgate.

    I don't think many of us mean him ill will, we just appreciate people being level with us.

    And not many of us have seen that with Clark.

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    oh kum by yah...Namaste...sorry. Didnt realise it was a great love-in.

    In all seriousness though must we have unconditional fawning and worship of players ? For mine they need to earn respect and admiration.

    As a person..dont know dont need to dont want to. Goes for all really as im not looking to extend my social sphere with player buddies. I just view them ad players. Whilst at Melbourne 1 would hope they seek to maximise the opportunity and play to their fullest abilities.They are after all professionals ( i wonder with some ) and as such id want honesty in efforts.

    Col Sylvia was one of the mist divisive players to have ever found their way onto our list. There was the talented Sylvia, put in an occasional cameo, there was the Larrikin Sylvia, never far away and the laconic Sylvia who seemed the one most often in the jumper at games.

    This guy seemed permanently in cruise mode and all on handy coin.

    Yeah...lets build a shrine for the bloke..over to whoever can be bothered.

    I liked Col as a footballer initially when he played for Melbourne,

    I originally thought he had the ability to have a break out season, (each season),

    But as each season came went I became more and more doubtful and disillusioned .

    Col like others failed to deliver for our club through one of our darkest periods

    So as I said once before in another thread I'm not Celebrating on the outside, but smiling just a little bit on the inside, Karma is certainly a (Bi-tch ) .

    It gets you eventually one way or the other.

    In saying that I am sure Karma has something even lined up for me in the future .

    None of us are Squeaky clean and those who claim to be otherwise, well I assure you Karma will have the last word :cool:

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    Heard Colin was offered to jog a lap of honour on Sunday ........

    He refused the offer said it sounded like too much hard work

    He could have done the lap no problem if he could just done a full preseason.

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    An acquaintance of mine knows Colin very well. He has told me over a number of years, that he is a lovely bloke, considerate and respectful of others. This is consistent with other comments about meeting him at off field events.

    He has decided to retire which is probably a sensible decision. His career at Freo did not work out. In this case, the irony is that he went from a very poor football club to a very good one. He may not have worked hard enough, however, he was up against it when you look at Freo's list. At Melbourne we seem to have turned the corner and we are seeing some guys who were getting games who are now struggling because of the improved list.

    However, for many years Col was a loyal Melbourne man during the desperate years of failure of the club on and off the field. He like many others over the years failed to live up to his potential. Perhaps as others say he was a lazy footballer or to put it more kindly, did not work hard enough. However, he is not on his Pat Malone. There were many others in that stable of underachievement. However, does that make if okay to pass snide or contemptuous comments about him. He has already achieved more than most on the sporting field. He has failings like anyone. What satisfaction is there in pointing these out. I don't get it. Would some of the posters on this site make these criticisms to his face. I suspect not. We should congratulate him on his footy career and wish him well.

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    An acquaintance of mine knows Colin very well. He has told me over a number of years, that he is a lovely bloke, considerate and respectful of others. This is consistent with other comments about meeting him at off field events.

    He has decided to retire which is probably a sensible decision. His career at Freo did not work out. In this case, the irony is that he went from a very poor football club to a very good one. He may not have worked hard enough, however, he was up against it when you look at Freo's list. At Melbourne we seem to have turned the corner and we are seeing some guys who were getting games who are now struggling because of the improved list.

    However, for many years Col was a loyal Melbourne man during the desperate years of failure of the club on and off the field. He like many others over the years failed to live up to his potential. Perhaps as others say he was a lazy footballer or to put it more kindly, did not work hard enough. However, he is not on his Pat Malone. There were many others in that stable of underachievement. However, does that make if okay to pass snide or contemptuous comments about him. He has already achieved more than most on the sporting field. He has failings like anyone. What satisfaction is there in pointing these out. I don't get it. Would some of the posters on this site make these criticisms to his face. I suspect not. We should congratulate him on his footy career and wish him well.

    True. Not everyone can push themselves despite a destructive environment. There is only one Nathan Jones.

    I've had my 5 minutes of petty shadenfreude (thanks rpfc), mostly directed at Freo as opposed to Col. Time to move on.

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    The training has gotten out of control, its going harder for older players ,col did not want to go to the next level of training.

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    The training has gotten out of control, its going harder for older players ,col did not want to go to the next level of training.

    At one stage, 95% of our list did not want to go to that next level.

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    At one stage, 95% of our list did not want to go to that next level.

    That's way players like gysberts Morton, cook, blease, where moved on they did not like to work harder

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    That's way players like gysberts Morton, cook, blease, where moved on they did not like to work harder

    Part of the reason, yes. It's all been done to death but in my view it was a cruel mixture of factors. Drafting players who had the wrong mindset, a coach in Bailey who by all reports did not push them hard enough (along with a lack of on field leaders thanks to the list policy at the time of Daniher) and then a coach who pushed the already fragile minded players far too hard... so hard that he forced himself out.

    Anyway, it actually, finally looks as though that dark age is in the rear view mirror. But that is the kind of environment that Sylvia played the majority of his career in - one where he wasn't pushed and wasn't the kind of guy to push himself. Just my view.

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    At one stage, 95% of our list did not want to go to that next level.

    nor for a drive to Casey !! :rolleyes:
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    Part of the reason, yes. It's all been done to death but in my view it was a cruel mixture of factors. Drafting players who had the wrong mindset, a coach in Bailey who by all reports did not push them hard enough (along with a lack of on field leaders thanks to the list policy at the time of Daniher) and then a coach who pushed the already fragile minded players far too hard... so hard that he forced himself out.

    Anyway, it actually, finally looks as though that dark age is in the rear view mirror. But that is the kind of environment that Sylvia played the majority of his career in - one where he wasn't pushed and wasn't the kind of guy to push himself. Just my view.

    Yes it does seem like Roos has a great ability to both push hard and support the guys at the same time.

    That takes an amazing amount of people skills.

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    Yes it does seem like Roos has a great ability to both push hard and support the guys at the same time.

    That takes an amazing amount of people skills.

    Absolute key in my opinion - knowing the balance.

    Bailey probably too soft.

    Neeld - the carrot and the stick - he knew the stick and not much else and lost the players.

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    It's since been shown Neeld's carrot was In fact a turnip !!

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    Such a waste. Pathetic.

    Gotta wonder why he went to Fremantle in the first place, except for money.

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