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Would Dom have been a top 10 pick in this years draft with the benefit of 2 years development at AFL level.

If the answer is yes, we have got two top ten players for Pick 2 which is a great get.

The difficulty in getting picks right and the risk of getting it wrong has forced our hand to diversify a little. I am hopeful that the diversification strategy yields a great result on both fronts due to the eveness of the draft in the top 9 picks.

I am happy with the strategy, lets hope the sensible option pays divedends for us!

Great just realised we are going to have a Dom problem.

At least it wasn't another Jack

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We didn't get Gys with pick 9 so you have pulled that comparison out of your clacker.

If you are suggesting he is worth pick 9 then you are way off the money I'm afraid.

oh sorry pick 11 that changes everything

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I'd be lying if I said I've seen heaps of Tyson. But the fact that 2 years ago he was pick #3 and now has the advantage of two years in the system, sounds like we landed somebody who can make immediate impact, but more importantly, can make long term and lasting impact because of their age and quality.

That we got pick #9 back just means we can go into next year with a much better balance of young developing mids, and ones that have had some development in their body to withstand the heat week in week out.

To think that next year we can have a starting midfield of Jones, Viney (now in his third season really), Tyson (3rd season), Toump (2nd season), Michie (3rd season)+ Pick 9, that is worlds away from what we had going this year.

The best thing about it all is that we haven't compromised our long term future success by going for short term solutions, and aging stars.

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The best thing about it all is that we haven't compromised our long term future success by going for short term solutions, and aging stars.

As opposed to Barrett's North, who presumably see dal Santo as the difference btw being outside the top 8 and inside the top 4.

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Dom Tyson is quality. If he can stay fit and on the park, it's a great choice. The interesting thing coming from the Tyson and Michie gets, and the off field recruits (Stone, Miller ....) is the investment in culture. Dom Tyson was a uniquely impressive character for his age when I had contact with him 2 years ago (and I can tell you will be rapt to come home) and according to some of of the reports on here about Michie, he has a great rep also. When you think of the character of Nat Jones, Jack Viney, Jacks Trengove and Grimes, and Jimmy Toumpas from the midfield alone, I think there's as much an effort to build culture and ethic at the 'New Roos Dees', as there is to recruit talent and plug holes.

We can see what you're doing Paul Roos, and we LIKE it! :-)

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As opposed to Barrett's North, who presumably see dal Santo as the difference btw being outside the top 8 and inside the top 4.

I may be wrong, and I only heard the end of the discussion between Wallace and Gromit on trade radio, but Barrett said '...so you don't think this is the difference between North making the grand final Terry' in terms of the Dal Santo trade.

I mean seriously?

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Tyson, Michie, Jones, Trengove, Viney, Toumpas, Mckenzie, Grimes, Pick 9 plus Vince hopefully and Cross aswell.

Add Dom Barry next year and Billy Stretch the year after and it looks a much more formidable midfield!

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Tyson, Michie, Jones, Trengove, Viney, Toumpas, Mckenzie, Grimes, Pick 9 plus Vince hopefully and Cross aswell.

Add Dom Barry next year and Billy Stretch the year after and it looks a much more formidable midfield!

While I'm extremely optimistic about the future, I still have question marks over every one of those names except for Jones.

Jones is a bonafide B+ midfielder.

Don't even place Mckenzie into that list. Personal opinion only.

But yes very much an optimistic time of year.

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We got Mitchie with pick 54....

Just sayin....

yep

..good win for us

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While I'm extremely optimistic about the future, I still have question marks over every one of those names except for Jones.

Jones is a bonafide B+ midfielder.

Don't even place Mckenzie into that list. Personal opinion only.

But yes very much an optimistic time of year.

I agree with your sentiment. October and November is always Christmas time on Demonland and by Round 1 the reality bus is back.

But what about Jack Viney? Surely no question marks apart from his age.

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Just a bit of fun, you may have a chuckle when you work it out.

Only stiring too mate.

Good times ahead.

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While I'm extremely optimistic about the future, I still have question marks over every one of those names except for Jones.

Jones is a bonafide B+ midfielder.

Don't even place Mckenzie into that list. Personal opinion only.

But yes very much an optimistic time of year.

I understand your hesitant optimism completely, but at least this time or young unproven midfield contains highly rated potential kids (Tyson, Viney, Toumpas, pick 9), a couple of developing kids with who have shown a bit (Michie, M Jones and some of our existing younger inexperienced players), some players with 3+ years experience who should be easy to take a step up under Roos/Stone (Trengove, Grimes, Watts) and a senior midfield leader (Jones).

If we can snare Vince or Cross and they can play the rule of number 2 and 3 mids for a year or two, we suddenly have a core that may come together.

None of those players have question marks for the wrong reasons. They might not have developed as we'd have liked bit they aren't the unfulfilled potential, poorly behaved or NQR group we've had in the last decade. Yet.

Time will tell. Stone for Royal may be the most important change we've made all off season.

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While I'm extremely optimistic about the future, I still have question marks over every one of those names except for Jones.

Jones is a bonafide B+ midfielder.

Don't even place Mckenzie into that list. Personal opinion only.

But yes very much an optimistic time of year.

Jones a bonafide B+ midfielder?

On a day of Demonland excitement, you come up with this?

I respectfully reject your summation.

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what do people think - should we still make a play for Vince and Myers/Lyons?

I would say definitely get Vince but at this stage it looks like we might get Vince and Cross and use the rest of our picks.

Or we could try and get Vince and Myers or Lyons and forget about Cross. We might need to put a player on the table to get both though (if we want to keep pick 9).

It depends if Roos wants to chase a small forward or a ruckman (don't know if there are any decent ones in this draft)

Maybe Vince and Lyons for our Sylvia pick (hopefuly 21ish) + pick 53 and a player?

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I understand your hesitant optimism completely, but at least this time or young unproven midfield contains highly rated potential kids (Tyson, Viney, Toumpas, pick 9), a couple of developing kids with who have shown a bit (Michie, M Jones and some of our existing younger inexperienced players), some players with 3+ years experience who should be easy to take a step up under Roos/Stone (Trengove, Grimes, Watts) and a senior midfield leader (Jones).

If we can snare Vince or Cross and they can play the rule of number 2 and 3 mids for a year or two, we suddenly have a core that may come together.

None of those players have question marks for the wrong reasons. They might not have developed as we'd have liked bit they aren't the unfulfilled potential, poorly behaved or NQR group we've had in the last decade. Yet.

Time will tell. Stone for Royal may be the most important change we've made all off season.

It's true that Vince and Cross remain important acquisitions in terms of becoming competitive next year. If we get neither, it will take a fair bit of the gloss off the trade period overall.

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Terry Wallace talking some rubbish about Tyson being there 7th best midfielder and therefore him not getting game time going forward. Yet why are they getting pick 2?

Not to mention modern teams need 12 midfield types.

By the way I'd say Shiel, Whitfield, Treloar and Ward are the only 4 better. And Whitfield and Treloar are more outside types.

Greene, Scully, Devon Smith, Coniglio, O'Rourke can't say any of those are any better than Tyson right now. Of course Adams is leaving as well.

That would make Scully their 10th??

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oh sorry pick 11 that changes everything

Geez your good at creating your own imaginary posts and then answering them. I'll leave it to you bud..

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By the way I'd say Shiel, Whitfield, Treloar and Ward are the only 4 better. And Whitfield and Treloar are more outside types.

Greene, Scully, Devon Smith, Coniglio, O'Rourke can't say any of those are any better than Tyson right now. Of course Adams is leaving as well.

Not sure he's behind Greene. Admittedly had second year blues but he was a sensation in his first year. Expecting him to bounce back strongly next season as he learns to deal with the attention from opposition. Agree with the rest.

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Jones a bonafide B+ midfielder?

On a day of Demonland excitement, you come up with this?

I respectfully reject your summation.

He's not 'A' grade.

I suppose it depends on how you rate players, but you've got to be AA quality to be 'A' grade in my eyes. It's no sleight on him to call him B+, especially as he is.

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