Unrelated Draft Thread

[Canberra Demon 159]

The last couple of days whilst waiting trade/FA news and reading all the posts here about who we will/should pick up with the draft it got me thinking as to how we have gone in previous years. Im not talking about the superstars we didn’t pick and the duds we did pick. I was thinking along the lines of which draft did we get the most bang for our buck. Which draft did we secure players who paid the MFC back in games played. Yeah we lost a few players along the way and gained a few, but if we look at the raw figures of drafted players v games played which year do you think we really struggled. I went back to 2000 and came up with the following.

2000

100 MFC Games at 10 per Player Drafted

AFL ave 41 games per player drafted

2001

301 MFC Games at 38 per player drafted

AFL ave 62 games per player drafted

2002

371 MFC games at 31 per player drafted

AFL ave 58 games per player drafted

2003

494 MFC games at 62 per player drafted

AFL ave 48 games per player drafted

2004

302 MFC games at 60 per player drafted

AFL ave 50 games per player drafted

2005

290 MFC games at 36 per player drafted

AFL ave 47 games per player drafted

2006

275 MFC Games at 55 per player drafted

AFL ave 41 games per player drafted

2007

307 MFC games at 31 per player drafted

AFL ave 32 games per player drafted

2008

377 MFC games at 38 per player drafted

AFL ave 30 games per player drafted

2009

235 MFC games at 28 per player drafted

AFL ave 22 games per player drafted

2010

145 MFC games at 14 per player drafted

AFL ave 15 games per player drafted

2011

47 MFC games at 7 per player drafted

AFL ave 8 games per player drafted

2012

92 MFC games at 10 per player drafted

AFL ave 5 games per player drafted

I do have a more detailed breakdown for each year but I didn’t want to put them all up here at the start as the post would be massive.

And yes I don’t have a life and im pretty bored at the moment.

[old55 21,287]

A big factor in that analysis is our relative draft positions across those years - some years we had a lot of early picks and some we didn't, it's nice data but it's meaningless without that factored in.

[Canberra Demon 159]

2000

National Draft

16 – Scott Thompson (39 MFC/206 ADL)

62 – Daniel Breese (0 Games)

73 – Ross Funcke (13/27 RICH)

80 – Mitchell Craig (0 Games)

84 – Pass

Rookie Draft

15 – Kevin Devine (0 Games)

31 – Darren Jolly (48 MFC/118 SYD/71 COLL)

46 – Mark Berts (0 Games)

58 – Benjamin Doherty (0Games)

64 – Thomas Marshall (0Games)

Pre Season Draft

10 – Nick Gill (0 MFC/17 ADL)

Notable Players in draft

18 – Daniel Kerr

20 – Kane Cornes

27 – Ted Richards

39 – Adam McPhee

2001

National Draft

9 – Luke Molan (0 Games)

25 – Steven Armstrong (43 MFC/36 WCE)

26 – Aaron Rogers (2 SYD)

55 – Brad Miller (123 MFC/24 RICH)

70 – Pass

82 – Pass

Rookie Draft

6 – Mark Jamar (133 MFC)

22 – David Robbins (0 Games)

37 – Ryan Ayres (0 Games)

49 – Nicholas Walsh (0 Games)

Notable Players in draft

13 – Nick Del Santo

24 – Steve Johnston

32 – Campbell Brown

36 – Sam Mitchell

37 – Leigh Montagna

58 – Dane Swan

71 – Brian Lake

23 – Matthew Boyd (Rookie Draft)

33 – Aaron Sandilands (Rookie Draft)

2002

National Draft

14 – Daniel Bell (66 MFC)

15 – Nick Smith (4 MFC)

26 – Jared Rivers (150 MFC/10 GEEL)

39 – Gary Moorcroft (95 EFC/3 MFC)

54 – Cameron Hunter (2 MFC)

66 – Ryan Ferguson (47 MFC)

Rookie Draft

11 – Adam Fisher (0 Games)

27 – Dale Carson (0 Games)

43 – Ezra Poyas (9 Rich)

56 – Nathan Carroll (71 MFC)

65 – Michael Clark (1 MFC)

Pre Season Draft

5 – Guy Rigoni (107 MFC (27 after 2002))

Notable Players in draft

20 – Will Minson

45 – Kade Simpson

64 – Nick Malceski

15 – Nick Maxwell (Rookie Draft)

23 – Michael Osborne (Rookie Draft)

2003

National Draft

3 – Colin Sylvia (157 MFC)

5 – Brock McLean (94 MFC/47 CARL)

36 – Christopher Johnson (31 MFC/ 16 CARL)

52 – Pass

Rookie Draft

3 – Aaron Davey (178 MFC)

19 – Paul Newman (0 Games)

35 – Luke Molan (0 Games)

50 – Joel Campbell (0 Games)

Pre Season Draft

3 – Phillip Read (74 WCE/34 MFC)

Notable Players in draft

11 – Beau Waters

13 – Brent Stanton

19 – David Mundy

33 – Jed Adcock

55 – Sam Fisher

61 – Michael Rischiteli

10 – Paul Duffield (Rookie Draft)

2004

National Draft

13 – Matthew Bate (102 MFC)

15 – Lynden Dunn (117 MFC)

43 – Michael Newton (28 MFC)

Rookie Draft

10 – Brendan Van Schaik (0 Games)

26 – Matthew Warnock (55 MFC/26 GC)

41 – Pass

53 – Pass

58 – Pass

Notable Players in draft

14 – Angus Monfries

24 – Nathan Van Berlo

37 – Mark Lecras

2005

National Draft

12 – Nathan Jones (157 MFC)

53 – Simon Buckley (21 MFC/26 COLL)

60 – Clint Bartram (103 MFC)

68 – Heath Neville (0 Games)

Rookie Draft

9 – Jace Bode (9 MFC)

25 – Dan Hughes (0 Games)

39 – Shane Neaves (0 Games)

51 – Andre Gianfagna (0Games)

Notable Players in draft

56 – Joel Patfull

61 – Mathew Stokes

31 – Matthew Priddis (Rookie Draft)

2006

National Draft

12 – James Frawley (118 MFC)

30 – Ricky Petterd (54 MFC/12 RICH)

46 – Colin Garland (101 MFC)

62 – Isaac Weetra (2 MFC)

Rookie Draft

12 – Daniel Hayes (0 Games)

Notable Players in draft

32 – Kurt Tippett

71 – Justin Westhoff

79 – Jessie White

50 – Tom Lonergan (Rookie Draft)

2007

National Draft

4 – Cale Morton (73 MFC/3 WCE)

14 – Jack Grimes (68 MFC)

21 – Addam Maric (21 MFC/10 RICH)

53 – Kyle Cheney (14 MFC/18 HAW)

66 – Tom McNamara (4 MFC)

73 – Pass

Rookie Draft

3 – Trent Zomer (0 Games)

19 – Austin Wonaeamirri (31 MFC)

35 – Jake Spencer (24 MFC)

49 – Shane Valenti (15 MFC)

Pre Season Draft

3 – Stefan Martin (57 MFC/5 BRIS)

Notable Players in draft

10 – Patrick Dangerfield

12 – Cyril Rioli

13 – Brad Ebert

17 – Harry Taylor

37 – Scott Thompson

25 – Jared Petrenko (Rookie Draft)

57 – Shane Mumford (Rookie Draft)

2008

National Draft

1 – Jack Watts (73 MFC)

17 – Sam Blease (31 MFC)

19 – James Strauss (24 MFC)

35 – Jamie Bennell (57 MFC)

51 – Neville Jetta (41 MFC)

64 – Rohan Bail (44 MFC)

76 – Pass

Rookie Draft

1 – Jordie McKenzie (69 MFC)

17 – Phys Healey (0 Games)

33 – Daniel Hughes (2 MFC)

Pre Season Draft

1 – Liam Jurrah (36 MFC)

2009

National Draft

1 – Tom Scully (31 MFC/40 GWS)

2 – Jack Trengrove (79 MFC)

11 – Jordan Gysberts (19 MFC)

18 – Luke Tapscott (45 MFC)

34 – Max Gawn (17 MFC)

50 – Jack Fitzpatrick (14 MFC)

66 – Pass

Rookie Draft

6 – Michael Newton (28 MFC)

22 – John Meesen (2 ADL/4 MFC)

Pre Season Draft

1 – Joel Macdonald (44 MFC)

2010

National Draft

12 – Lucas Cook (0 Games)

33 – Jeremy Howe (56 MFC)

50 – Troy Davis (2 MFC)

53 – Tom McDonald (39 MFC)

81 – Jordie McKenzie (Rookie Promotion)

96 – Jake Spencer (Rookie Promotion)

Rookie Draft

14 – Daniel Nicholson (31 MFC)

31 – Michael Evans (13 MFC)

48 – Kelvin Lawrence (0 Games)

63 – Cameron Johnston (0Games)

75 – Robert Campbell (116 HAW/0 MFC)

83 – Tom McNamara (4 MFC)

2011

National Draft

36 – Rory Taggert (0 Games)

52 – Josh Tynan (2 MFC)

54 – James Sellar (23 MFC)

Rookie Draft

6 – Jai Sheahan (0 Games)

24 – Thomas Crouch (3 MFC)

42 – James Magner (19 MFC)

59 – Leigh Williams (0 Games)

2012

National Draft

4 – Jimmy Toumpas (14 MFC)

26 – Jack Viney (13 MFC)

48 – Dean Kent (15 MFC)

52 – Matt Jones (22 MFC)

68 – Dean Terlich (20 MFC)

71 – Daniel Nicholson (Rookie Promotion)

72 – Michael Evans (Rookie Promotion)

Rookie Draft

3 – Nathan Stark (0 Games)

19 – Mitchell Clisby (8 Games)

Mini Draft

2 – Jesse Hogan (0 Games)

[Arrow 1,257]

07 destroyed us. 08 wasn't ideal but I still hold some hope.

Reading who we took and who we missed out on is actually heart breaking.

[deanox 8,575]

A big factor in that analysis is our relative draft positions across those years - some years we had a lot of early picks and some we didn't, it's nice data but it's meaningless without that factored in.

to be honest, it's rather meaningless regardless. It doesn't matter who you draft, you need 484 games per year. Even if the players are crap someone had to get the games.

[Bombay Airconditioning 5,875]

2006 notable players. Joel Selwood.

[Carlos Danger 380]

07 destroyed us. 08 wasn't ideal but I still hold some hope.

Reading who we took and who we missed out on is actually heart breaking.

No, 2001 destroyed us. Looked at what Geelong and St Kilda got out of that draft and then look at what we got.

[spirit of norm smith 12,899]

2007 - Cale Morton pick 4. Patrick Dangerfield pick 10 (hmmmmmmmm). But Morton was regarded as the new elite model, who could run, jump, highly skilled, athletic, aerobic ... but we failed to check his heart problem !!!!

[Canberra Demon 159]

2006 notable players. Joel Selwood.

I didnt include him because he was picked up at number 6 and our first pick was number 12. I should have re worded it to "notable players we missed"

[Undeeterred 2,846]

Sorry, but just about every one of those years is a freaking disaster.

What a complete shambles. No wonder we are a [censored] up.

[rpfc 27,448]

We have done this before. I have myself analysed why we are where we are.

Salary cap breaches hurt a decade after they were found.

Bad drafting hurts 6 years after the fact.

Anyone judging drafts as they happen or even a year or two later are wasting their time, and yours.

[Undeeterred 2,846]

We have done this before. I have myself analysed why we are where we are.

Salary cap breaches hurt a decade after they were found.

Bad drafting hurts 6 years after the fact.

Anyone judging drafts as they happen or even a year or two later are wasting their time, and yours.

I don't need too many more years to tell you we got sweet [censored] all in 2011...

[richyrich 44]

This has all been discussed before. The MFC cant draft/develop for sh**. Time to look forward not into the past. We can review as much as we like, its not going to change anything. What the club needs to do now is put serious (and I mean serious) work into the recruitment and development areas of the club (at both VFL and AFL). Whatever financial cost it requires to have this done correctly. I have said it before, if we incorrectly draft or not develop players, we have no chance of being competitive and therefor the club will again follow the path to its demise. Learn from the past, look to the future!