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Essendon in crisis as players set to be named in banned drugs inquiry

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Essendon in crisis as players set to be named in banned drugs inquiry

most excellent news

Couldnt happen to a nicer bunch

Why only 14 names though?

What the? CW saying she won't name the players as she has a value base, yet the Herald Sun will, equals she has no idea!! This reads she got a lead saying the a Herald Sun have more information and she is jumping in first.

What a [censored] and some respect her crap!

I'm glad the name and shame game is beginning. Essendon have a lot to answer for and deserve to be run through the mud.

What the? CW saying she won't name the players as she has a value base, yet the Herald Sun will, equals she has no idea!! This reads she got a lead saying the a Herald Sun have more information and she is jumping in first.

What a [censored] and some respect her crap!

I'm glad the name and shame game is beginning. Essendon have a lot to answer for and deserve to be run through the mud.

She has scruples?

The same hack who outed Cuddles for telling jokes in the Vault refuses to name players who are going to be charged with taking banned substances?

Go figure?

Let's have them then.

I feel for the players here, they have not been charged yet and should not be named. The same as when a couple of ours were named which I believed at the time (and still do) was disgraceful journalism.

However when infractions/suspensions come it's all gloves off, until that time the Herald Sun should shut the ....up.

Rupert must have given Robbo and his boys a real kicking after Wilson played them on a break last year.

Everyone knows that they were injected with a substance. The Bombers admit this themselves. Their Captain told the world he believed he took banned substances. It's already out in the open.

who has got any evidence on him. no one except maybe the pharmacist who mixed the concoctions.

& some possible circumstantial import invoices.

but with experimental substances, that customs wouldn't have even have hird of, they probably couldn't test the substances at the airport.

the only one would be the pharmacist, who is I think, an unreliable sort for a witness. even the pharmacist possibly doesn't know what the substances were he was mixing, if the Boss was clever.

the players certainly don't know what was injected, being told one thing is far from fact. unless they have a sample in a vial.

Was that a deliberate spelling mistake, dee-luded ? :-)

I don't understand this comment from Little though Little said. ''They signed confidentiality agreements and we believed those would be respected.''

Did one of the players spill the beans or does he expect the rest of the world to be bound by agreements signed by Essendon players????

I feel for the players here, they have not been charged yet and should not be named. The same as when a couple of ours were named which I believed at the time (and still do) was disgraceful journalism.

However when infractions/suspensions come it's all gloves off, until that time the Herald Sun should shut the ....up.

Rupert must have given Robbo and his boys a real kicking after Wilson played them on a break last year.

I have yet to see players named on any News Limited website and it would not surprise me if Little himself isn't working the phones internationally to prevent the publication of any of his players' names. One of the Murdoch Empire's leading executives is said to be a Bomber fan and it's also been suggested that as a consequence, their outlets have dealt favourably with the Essendon side over the scandal.

The players' names will come out in the fullness of time but the numbers mentioned in the article tally with the numbers in speculation over the past months since the ASADA interim report was published. It's also interesting that four players may be named who have left the Bombers possibly to go to other AFL clubs. A couple of opposition recruiting officers should be quaking in their boots tonight.

The players' names will come out in the fullness of time

the names are all there on the HS website...

Thanks Crackers & the post script to the above is that the Herald Sun has now released the names.

No surprises and red faces at the Bulldogs and Dockers.

The article is still pushing the tired old line that "ASADA has been accused of telling ­Essendon in 2012 that the substance was permitted for use". Yes, it has been accused of this but there's no proof that it did so nor, in the unlikely event that it did, that it would alter the situation. News Limited's coverage of this scandal has been abysmal.

Thanks Crackers & the post script to the above is that the Herald Sun has now released the names.

No surprises and red faces at the Bulldogs and Dockers.

The article is still pushing the tired old line that "ASADA has been accused of telling ­Essendon in 2012 that the substance was permitted for use". Yes, it has been accused of this but there's no proof that it did so nor, in the unlikely event that it did, that it would alter the situation. News Limited's coverage of this scandal has been abysmal.

Agree, and I think Robbo's gig may be on the line by the end of it. Maybe even that News exec with Bomber ties if Rupert doesn't get some award wining stories out of this.

geez the Herald sun are useless

Club captain Jobe Watson, Dyson Heppell and Michael Hurley are among 10 current Essendon players the Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority says told its investigators they suspected they had been injected with either Thymosin, AOD-9604 or both.

The herald sun says ASADA says essendon players said....

but then

Stewart Crameri, now at the Western Bulldogs, Scott Gumbleton, now at Fremantle, and delisted Bombers Ricky Dyson and Sam Lonergan also told ASADA they believed or suspected they had been injected with the drugs while at Essendon in 2012.

Also told ASADA.

who is doing the leaking here? Not ASADA. probably a player or player agent.

Or essendon attempting to discredit ASADA

(this whole thing is like when you catch a child doing the wrong thing and they try anything to get out of it "it wasnt me" "she made me do it" "it wasnt my fault" "they were annoying me" "it was an accident" etc)

And let us not forget. Hird was paid $1 million big ones for a year off!!!!

And this part of the article doesn't gel with me:

The maximum penalty for doping is a two-year ban, but given the unique circumstances surrounding the supplements program, any players found guilty would expect to get significant discounts.

I believe the "discounts" only thing applies where the accused has assisted ASADA in laying charges against other offenders.

and Robinson still bleats on

step by step

little by little

the vice tightens

Agree, and I think Robbo's gig may be on the line by the end of it. Maybe even that News exec with Bomber ties if Rupert doesn't get some award wining stories out of this.

hes definitely wining on for sure

Tatts bet has suspended betting on Essendon, top 8, premiership etc

Good to see there is no mention of Trengove in that report

hes definitely wining on for sure

Think I will leave that one in 'bub', good pick up and probably makes more sense than what I intended.

And this part of the article doesn't gel with me:

I believe the "discounts" only thing applies where the accused has assisted ASADA in laying charges against other offenders.

Was going to post similar 'Jack', also seemed a bit odd to me.

if that News article was submitted as HSC exercise in clear thinking it would fail. Full of errors and illogical argument.

If I were Fish and Chips Id remonstrate before being wrapped in it !!

"and questions over the legal status of AOD-9604. ummm No there isnt.

"Whether bans could be pursued over AOD-9604 use is also unclear.

In its Drugs In Sport report last year, the Australian Crime Commission determined it was not banned."

The ACC are the arbiter in this regard.Their opinion is irrelevant to the infraction. And this is mischievious as this isnt the actual case as per theACC

Robinson ...stop now....

if that News article was submitted as HSC exercise in clear thinking it would fail. Full of errors and illogical argument.

If I were Fish and Chips Id remonstrate before being wrapped in it !!

"and questions over the legal status of AOD-9604. ummm No there isnt.

"Whether bans could be pursued over AOD-9604 use is also unclear.

In its Drugs In Sport report last year, the Australian Crime Commission determined it was not banned."

The ACC are the arbiter in this regard.Their opinion is irrelevant to the infraction. And this is mischievious as this isnt the actual case as per theACC

Robinson ...stop now....

Agreed. He should stop not only because he's an embarrassment - he's shilling for the players or he simply doesn't get it - Dirtied Dozen deserve a fair go. The sympathy card might stir up some feeling with the masses but it's a massive deception.

Had the club that employed the "dirtied dozen" kept proper records, then this whole thing would have been done and dusted 12 months ago.

As for having compassion for the players, it's true that they're victims but they did sign waiver forms that mentioned the drugs and they allowed themselves to be subjected to a massive number of injections, some off-site. In the real world, athletes of all sports are educated these days to be vigilant about such things. These guys weren't.

ASADA may not be a perfectly run organisation but I suspect that the delays in completing this investigation were due predominantly to the way others conducted themselves.

and Robinson still bleats on

step by step

little by little

the vice tightens

Nice pun, BB ...