It does matter, captains are leaders as far as footy goes - usually men.

Viney, Hogan and Jones are men... Trengove is not a man.

I don't know, maybe it would be easier if I just kept bumping Kingding Alings Jones for captain thread to drill the point around here.

Sorry mate, Hogan & Viney are not men.

Especially next to Trengove.

Hard to take you seriously when you make those claims.

Blease and Strauss should be getting gigs ahead of Pederson and Dunn because Pederson and Dunn are not part of our future.

Dunn is a turnover king and Pederson a spud.

We need to at least see if Strauss is up to AFL, we know Blease is, he is just inconsistent.

Blease in the VFL can be explained, he'll be a demon next year... But Strauss we need to see more of.

No way that Strauss and Blease are interchangeable with Dunn & Pedersen.

Different roles completely.

Best

Casey Scorpions Nicholson Magner Strauss Blease Tynan Hill

Which Tynan KC?

Blease and Strauss are not the replacements for Dunn and Pedersen.

Pedersen was pretty good yesterday actually.

Not Blease. But with McDonald and Garland against GWS and Gold Coast for that matter we likely only need one of Dunn or Pedersen. We don't need extra height if the players don't use it. If we want Garland on a tall then keep Dunn, If we want Garland on a medium height player then keep Pedersen. Or keep both and use Strauss, Clisby and Terlich through the wing positions and play all 3.

Either way Strauss has to be played.

Suckling from Hawthorn took years to find his feet at AFL level. But when he did everyone raves about how much of a weapon he is with his kicking and how Hawthorn will miss him. We our backline we can't justify not playing Strauss.

Which Tynan KC?

Josh

Hope so

Surely Strauss would be worth a Run, unsure on Blease, think Kent plays the role we want Blease to play and will become better at it within another year, blease may be the crumbing forward we're after but i am really not sure.

Viney is certainly too young to be captain, make Jones the captain for god sake,

might be worth giving Trengove a run at casey, not that he hasn't been making solid contributions, just to play in a team more likely to win, remember what it's like to dominate games and maybe get used to not having the pressure of being captain of a basket case again?

.... blease has got to learn how to, & when & where to run IMO.. he keeps on running himself out of room.

he's got to learn to be a smarter thinking footballer... he needs more composure to do this.

I know, Blease is a replacement for Davey - who stamped his papers this week.

Blease will come in next week, I understand why Blease sometimes gets dropped, it's just a consistency thing.

Maybe they pull their hair out with Blease a bit, which is understandable.

Pederson was ok yesterday and knowing our great club, we will probably reward him with a contract extension.

Strauss hopefully comes in just so we know whether he is even worth persisting with.

I think Davey stamped his own papers a long time back.

I think his best option would have been to ask for a trade 2 years back.

Why cant we play Blease as a dashing HBF in the way Shaun Atley plays? I remember he played that position beautifully when Todd viney was coaching us..

Why cant we play Blease as a dashing HBF in the way Shaun Atley plays? I remember he played that position beautifully when Todd viney was coaching us..

Because to be a HBF you have to be committed to work hard both ways. You need to provide strong offensive run, but you need to work back the other way too.

Blease has enough of the former but none of the latter.

One game at Casey shouldn't be enough to get back into the side for Blease.

leave him at casey until (if) he develops a hunger for leather and some smarts

I don't see much future for him

but there again i could say the same for half the list

Sorry mate, Hogan & Viney are not men.

Especially next to Trengove.

Hard to take you seriously when you make those claims.

No way that Strauss and Blease are interchangeable with Dunn & Pedersen.

Different roles completely.

Hogan and Viney play aggressive football, they are men's men.

Trengove is a girl, Toumpas is a girl, Cook, all these guys you probably love - Morton, I could probably roll on.

I don't care how seriously you take me, but Nathan Jones should be captain and Viney and Hogan are cut from that cloth.

The trouble with MFC is that we have too many skirts on our list.

Do you think Tom Scully was worried on the weekend, that he would feel a hit? Not in the slightest.

Which Tynan KC?

Josh Tynan was the only Tynan in the Casey Seniors today. Luke played in the development league team. He was joined by Rohan Bail and Joel Macdonald who were returning from injury.

Hogan and Viney play aggressive football, they are men's men.

Trengove is a girl, Toumpas is a girl, Cook, all these guys you probably love - Morton, I could probably roll on.

I don't care how seriously you take me, but Nathan Jones should be captain and Viney and Hogan are cut from that cloth.

The trouble with MFC is that we have too many skirts on our list.

Do you think Tom Scully was worried on the weekend, that he would feel a hit? Not in the slightest.

Intelligent rebuttal...

leave him at casey until (if) he develops a hunger for leather and some smarts

I don't see much future for him

but there again i could say the same for half the list

Agreed - he should be left at Casey until he consistently dominates (like Strauss).

Or

he is to be given consecutive games at AFL (he just shouldn't be going in and out of the team on a weekly basis - neither should any of our players)

FREEFALL by KC from Casey

A lacklustre Casey Scorpions side lasted only one quarter of its top of the table clash with the rampant Cats from Corio before they were blown away in comprehensive fashion to the tune of 66 points at Casey Fields. Such is the domination of Geelong on the competition that it has gone three games clear on top of the ladder ahead of Williamstown, Box Hill and Casey, all on 10 wins with three rounds left to play.

The teams went goal for goal in the opening term with the Scorpions looking for boom forward Jesse Hogan and finding him enough to warrant a switch of opponents before the first break by which time he had 2.1 on the board and his team led by 3 points against the straight shooting visitors.

However, from quarter time onwards it became a one way street with the strong Geelong line up penetrating the midfield and kicking straight to rack up 6.3 to a solitary point to take a commanding lead into the sheds at half time. As they had done on one or two occasions before this year, the Scorps had gone into freefall in the second quarter.

Any hopes of a Casey revival was soon snuffed out with the visitors snaring the opening two goals of the third quarter with AFL premiership players Chapman and Christiansen showing out for Geelong. The Scorpions were not spent yet making one final dash with a three goal spree in mid term through the agency of Jake Best (2) and Neville Jetta but the Cats regained their composure amid the dark and the gloom kicking six of the last seven as the game finished under lights and a thick black sky. It was their eighth consecutive win since they lowered their colours to the Scorpions by 13 points at Simonds Stadium in round 7.

For Casey, Dan Nicholson picked up 29 touches. James Magner (25) and Sam Blease (22) battled hard.

After playing three stand alone AFL affiliates in consecutive matches, the Scorps now take on a stand alone VFL club in a danger game next Sunday against the rapidly improving Dolphins at Frankston. They must win to secure a spot in the top four.

Casey Scorpions 4.3.27 4.4.28 7.8.50 8.11.59

Geelong4.0.24 10.3.63 16.8.104 19.11.125

Goals

Casey Scorpions Best Hogan 2 Jetta Magner Nicholson Page

Geelong Kersten 5 Hartman Murdoch Walker 2 Bathie Chapman Christensen Corrigan Hollmer Howe Stringer Thurlow

Best

Casey Scorpions Nicholson Magner Strauss Blease J Tynan Hill

Geelong Murdoch Kersten Walker Stringer Bews Brown

The Casey Development League team cemented its place in the top six and the finals with a 25 point win over Box Hill.

Casey Scorpions 3.4.22 6.6.42 9.10.64 12.12.84

Box Hill Hawks 2.2.14 4.2.26 4.4.28 9.5.59

Goals

Casey Scorpions Smith 3 Anderson Corry Fowler Macdonald Lang Lindsay Pollard Rosier Troutman

Box Hill Hawks Monkhorst Northe 2 Cunningham Exon Frank Goodwin Wood

Best

Casey Scorpions Lindsay Pollard Macdonald Clay Riseley Smith

Box Hill Hawks Thompson Collins Cunningham Exon Graham Miles

We should load up Casey. It would be interesting to know who qualifies for the finals. Week 1 I believe all players are due to the MFC still playing, any player that is border line to qualify for the finals play them at Casey, get them qualified and let casey have a red hot crack in the finals. The club has spoken about hope, give us a VFL flag that is a start.

leave him at casey until (if) he develops a hunger for leather and some smarts

I don't see much future for him

but there again i could say the same for half the list

You are actually correct dc.

20 of them are not AFL standard players

You are actually correct dc.

20 of them are not AFL standard players

Bit harsh OD, although hard to argue against. Optimistically I would like to think they haven't been developed to AFL standard.

Bit harsh OD, although hard to argue against. Optimistically I would like to think they haven't been developed to AFL standard.

We are the worst team in the competition.

The major conclusion you have to draw is that we do not have the players.

I Did a list a couple of weeks ago Of.

IMO these are not AFL standard or over the hill.

Tynan, Mckenzie, Blease, Strauss, Pedersen, Gillies, Nicholson, Sellar, Tapscott, Bail, Jetta, Jamar, Kent, M Jones. Over the Hill - Davey, J Macdonald.

WE then have Taggert, who knows.

Viney, Toumpas who we expect to be world beaters in their first year in any other team they would be spending the year at VFL level.

Evans has some skill but in injury prone, in my view does not contribute enough to be on the list.

We then have a few who are barely AFL standard that probably would not be on any other AFL team's list

I know, Blease is a replacement for Davey - who stamped his papers this week.

Blease will come in next week, I understand why Blease sometimes gets dropped, it's just a consistency thing.

Maybe they pull their hair out with Blease a bit, which is understandable.

Pederson was ok yesterday and knowing our great club, we will probably reward him with a contract extension.

Strauss hopefully comes in just so we know whether he is even worth persisting with.

He's averaging 8 kicks and 3 handballs. He goes for three runs turns it over on two and is buggered for the rest of the match. Ignore the game where he got 5 goals and its worse....

It ain't about consistency. Its about ability.

As I said optimistically. I get it that we are crap. But perhaps one of the more dysfunctional part of this football club is our inability to develop talent. I have a gut feeling that in a well run club more than half of the names you listed would have forged useful careers. We crucify our young players because we can't be stuffed developing them and it has always been like this. I alway remember when Earl Spalding left this club he couldn't hit the side of a supertanker with a kick. Carlton developed his kicking to the point where he was regularly known to kick actual goals. This club is in the position it is in because we consistently look for short cuts rather than do the hard yards.The kids on the list struggling to make it are only a reflection of decades of ineptitude.

As I said optimistically. I get it that we are crap. But perhaps one of the more dysfunctional part of this football club is our inability to develop talent. I have a gut feeling that in a well run club more than half of the names you listed would have forged useful careers. We crucify our young players because we can't be stuffed developing them and it has always been like this. I alway remember when Earl Spalding left this club he couldn't hit the side of a supertanker with a kick. Carlton developed his kicking to the point where he was regularly known to kick actual goals. This club is in the position it is in because we consistently look for short cuts rather than do the hard yards.The kids on the list struggling to make it are only a reflection of decades of ineptitude.

I hope desperately you are correct OF

I just don't see it.

That line I agree with, unfortunately a long slow grind awaits.

We are the worst team in the competition.

The major conclusion you have to draw is that we do not have the players.

I Did a list a couple of weeks ago Of.

IMO these are not AFL standard or over the hill.

Tynan, Mckenzie, Blease, Strauss, Pedersen, Gillies, Nicholson, Sellar, Tapscott, Bail, Jetta, Jamar, Kent, M Jones. Over the Hill - Davey, J Macdonald.

WE then have Taggert, who knows.

Viney, Toumpas who we expect to be world beaters in their first year in any other team they would be spending the year at VFL level.

Evans has some skill but in injury prone, in my view does not contribute enough to be on the list.

We then have a few who are barely AFL standard that probably would not be on any other AFL team's list

How you can have Kent and Matt Jones in there astounds me.

How you can have Kent and Matt Jones in there astounds me.

Are they winning us games?

no average players in the worst MFC side in fifty years.

There is a reason Jones spent all that time at box hill.

How you can have Kent and Matt Jones in there astounds me.

Jones has done well, but he's just a player at this level. I get very nervous with the ball in his hands.

Kent shows promise.