Pardon my ignorance if this has been raised but what about Billy Longer? Ruckman who has had 2/3 years in the system and is looking to come home. Looks accomplished as a player and is still very young. Just wondering people's thoughts on this

massive vertical leap at centre bounces.

WE dont need Jolly we had him and we sent him away

Midfielders only please ball winners only

...... more than anything, we need to change the culture. otherwise more of the same is what we'll get.

having players who've come thru and adopted a strong culture will understand it & its benefits, & this will help change our old ways.

...... more than anything, we need to change the culture. otherwise more of the same is what we'll get.

having players who've come thru and adopted a strong culture will understand it & its benefits, & this will help change our old ways.

U mean like Byrnes, Rodan, Gilles and Pederson?????

U mean like Byrnes, Rodan, Gilles and Pederson?????

if you want to go to an absolute extreme end of something, then thats up to you... but it is possible to get mature players who can play top footy and add something to change the culture.

.... oh & I see you've already written off Pederson before acceptances. I'll back in Roosy's team to help Ped'o become a valuable acquisition.

Rodan Gillies were fill ins 1Yr each,,, to help the transition of the list cleanup, to which Roos will benefit from.

If you take off you monocle, you may just be able to make out how the list has changed over the last 2 years & has a fresh look about it.

Byrnes will still be helpful.

If Roos wants Jolly, then I want Jolly. Simple - should be the same for everyone who is happy that Roos is coach. He knows what he is doing

pretty much.

it'll be interesting to see what the approach is with jolly, jamar, gawn, and spencer all on the list together.

Certainly wouldn't surprise me if Jolly ended up with us.. Roos loved him at the Swans, at 32 he would appear to have 1-2 years left max but if he comes free it wouldn't matter that much. Roos did something similar with a 32-year-old Spider Everitt many years back. Probably one of his more unsuccessful recruits it should be said.

Jamar looks very close to shot to me. Jolly looked worse this year. I'm not sure about this one.

Edited September 15, 201311 yr by Goodvibes

They say the ruckman is the most important player on the ground, if Jolly can add to our side in that area i am all for it, but i'd be hoping it's only a one year contract

Call me petty but I didn't like some of the things that came from Jolly's mouth after he left Melbourne.

Edited September 15, 201311 yr by Goodvibes

if you want to go to an absolute extreme end of something, then thats up to you... but it is possible to get mature players who can play top footy and add something to change the culture.

.... oh & I see you've already written off Pederson before acceptances. I'll back in Roosy's team to help Ped'o become a valuable acquisition.

Rodan Gillies were fill ins 1Yr each,,, to help the transition of the list cleanup, to which Roos will benefit from.

If you take off you monocle, you may just be able to make out how the list has changed over the last 2 years & has a fresh look about it.

Byrnes will still be helpful.

Take a deep breath DL I was being a smarty pants.

I get what u were saying and agree with it especially cause we have Roos as coach.

Btw how did u know I have a monocle???????

Call me petty but I didn't like some of the things that came from Jolly's mouth after he left Melbourne.

I've always sided with Jolly on that stuff. For me, this is the point where the club fell to bits. Daniher clung onto players for too long - we then basically retired an entire list in one go. That is always going to lead to serious imbalance in the list.

Please tell me, what are we going to do with;

Jolly

Jamar

Gawn

Spencer

Fitzpatrick

Dawes

Hogan

Clarke

All good enough to get a game, only so many places.

Roos aint a Neeld (dud), I would say he is talking to Jolly for a coaching position only.

Interesting to reflect on what could have been. Jolly was briefly with the dees and looked like a useless goose with no potential. He then went off to the swans and the filth and was an absolute star. Now he might return to the dees as a clapped out useless goose.

Call me petty but I didn't like some of the things that came from Jolly's mouth after he left Melbourne.

I agree, Petty.

I have spent 3 weeks watching EVERY melbourne game again and based on this season I would like to see Melbourne's list be as follows for the 2014 season:

TRADE

Jack Watts & 3rd Round selection to Carlton for pick 10

Colin Sylvia & 4th Round selection to Kangaroos for Greenwood

Jamar & Pick 10 for Taylor Adams and their 2nd Round Pick

Lynden Dunn to Gold Coast for 3rd round pick

DELIST

Rodan

Gillies

Tynan

Sellar

Draft

Pick 2 (Priority) - James Aish

Pick 3 - Lewis Taylor

Pick 19 - Matt Crouch

Pick 20 - Luke Dunstan

Pick 41 - Lloyd Perris

Pick 64 - Cameron Giles

With Greenwood & Adams included

Our 2014 Side:

B: Giles Frawley Garland

HB: Grimes McDonald Terich

C: Duntan Jones © Tompass

HF: Howe Clark Trengove

F: Dawes Hogan Byrnes

R: Gawn Viney Adams

I.C: Greenwood, Taylor, Fitzpatrick, Crouch (sub)

Emm: Nicholson, Kent, Barry

Sylvia cannot be traded, im sure by now you know that.

Secondly, regardless of Sylvia not being tradable, why would you want to trade Sylvia for Greenwood? Sylvia is actually good.

Watts is also someone we need, wouldnt want to trade him.

This would completely go against anything Roos has immediately said, he wants Sylvia and Watts, THEY ARE REQUIRED PLAYERS.

also, i very much doubt we'll get a priority pick

Please tell me, what are we going to do with;

Jolly

Jamar

Gawn

Spencer

Fitzpatrick

Dawes

Hogan

Clarke

All good enough to get a game, only so many places.

Roos aint a Neeld (dud), I would say he is talking to Jolly for a coaching position only.

Please tell me, what are we going to do with;

Jolly

Jamar

Gawn

Spencer

Fitzpatrick

Dawes

Hogan

Clarke

All good enough to get a game, only so many places.

Roos aint a Neeld (dud), I would say he is talking to Jolly for a coaching position only.

forgot to add Watts.

pretty much.

it'll be interesting to see what the approach is with jolly, jamar, gawn, and spencer all on the list together.

I suspect that Jamar would have heard that Gawn & Spencer, + Fitzpatrick, are ahead of him going forward. He may not get much of a go. He may like to look to other pastures for more opportunities?

In this scenario, Jolly if not picked up by others, may look to us for a rookie spot, & an assistant coach role.

If Paul Roos was not coach and new coach x was talking about picking up Jolly particularly after the fantastic success of our mature age players this year he would be howled down on this site.

I dont think its a good idea unless it is a Ben Hudson set up and it is clear he is there as absolute back up and to mentor and nothing more.

If Paul Roos was not coach and new coach x was talking about picking up Jolly particularly after the fantastic success of our mature age players this year he would be howled down on this site.

I dont think its a good idea unless it is a Ben Hudson set up and it is clear he is there as absolute back up and to mentor and nothing more.

thats it, exactly IMO.

Maybe Jolly would be taken on as a rookie, a la Ben Hudson?

To be a ruck coach when he retires..?

I agree, Petty.

Now that was a little petty.

Darren Jolly to be announced on a 4 year deal at Melbourne... Not sure how many if any are purely coaching..

My own little addition to this is he will have the 4 year coaching role but within that each year his playing contract will be 1 year basis...

could maybe churn out 1 or 2 years at best!

^^^^ Can you change your avatar? Every time I see it I vomit a little in my mouth.

Not sure how we could accommodate a trade as he has another year to run on his contract but if MFC approached #3 at WCE they may be surprised how interested he is in leaving.

Darren Jolly to be announced on a 4 year deal at Melbourne... Not sure how many if any are purely coaching..

My own little addition to this is he will have the 4 year coaching role but within that each year his playing contract will be 1 year basis...

could maybe churn out 1 or 2 years at best!

I reckon you're lying