TRADE

we need a ready made star

Let's get a skinny, pale kid who just needs to work on his peripheral awareness.

If we get the priority pick this and considering some rumours that are floating around here I believe this will be the great trade for our club

Pick 3 and MFC second round pick say 19 to WCE for Scott Selwood and Pick 7

Pick 7 to GWS for Taylor Adams

Pick 1 Tom Boyd, he is good, I know we need more midfielders but this guy is the best player in the draft. He adds security that if Clark doesn't recover or Hogan goes home we still have a gun key forward. If Clark recovers and Hogan stays the MFC has the most dangerous forward line in the AFL.

We add two quality mids plus another high quality tall, encourage Sylvia to go for a mid, Sylvia will get us band 3 after our second round say pick 20

Imagine a forward line

Kent Boyd Clark

Hogan Dawes Watts/Howe

The best thing about that forward line with the exception of Dawes the rest move extremely well.

If we can walk away from the trading and draft achieving has had a massive successful period.

Sure, my preference would also be to trade the picks, but not for someone who isn't worth it,

Pick 3 to GWS for Adams and pick 10 sounds good.

pick 10 to WCE for scott selwood sounds good

pick 2 to GCS for David Swallow and pick 23 maybe?

three quality mids for our PP all the right sort of age and type

then picks 20 and 23 gets us maybe Durmont and Dunstan who are both decent prospects

38 gets Zac Jones - speaks for itself really

Daniel Cross and Mav Wellar as delisted free agents

Midfield supercharge achieved.

I for the life of don't understand why we'd trade a PP if we get one or pick 2 to recruit Scott Selwood and a lower pick. I'd be really disappointed if we did that.

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Am I missing something but what's with the hype about Taylor Adams? IMO he's this years Josh Caddy. I just don't see where this hype is coming from. I'm not saying he doesn't have talent but he ain't no Crouch or O'Meara. Yes we need mids & yes let's trade hard for mids but to use a high trade for him would not help us. Scott Selwood on the other hand is another story. A proven mid with a few seasons under him from a professional (ahem) club. Used as a tagger but gets his own ball like Carrazzo. (Not that we would use him in that role). He wants to return to Vic, we will have Roos and most importantly we may have half a chance.

trade it for Sloane!?!!?!?!?!?!?!?

they need a key forward and we need a bull (Sloane)

would love to see Sloane and Viney in the centre of the ground <3

Am I missing something but what's with the hype about Taylor Adams? IMO he's this years Josh Caddy.

Adams averages 5.4 more disposals than Caddy over their respective careers and Caddy has played an extra season. Caddy is a big bodied first dibs utility. Adams is a legitimate inside midfielder who'd you comfortably start in the centre square.

Damian dckhead Barrett says there will be outrage from the other 17 clubs if we get a PP and he doesn't think we'll get one.

Sit and spin 17 other clubs.

Barrett on TFS just said there will be a 'mutiny' from the other 17 clubs if Melbourne gets a priority pick. Surely if it was that upsetting then everyone could have thrown a wobbly when the AFL made clear some months ago that the priority pick would be retained at their own discretion.

Barrett on TFS just said there will be a 'mutiny' from the other 17 clubs if Melbourne gets a priority pick. Surely if it was that upsetting then everyone could have thrown a wobbly when the AFL made clear some months ago that the priority pick would be retained at their own discretion.

That's why the clubs haven't run the competition since 1993. The AFL will make a decision based on the best interests of the game.

Barrett is a biased [censored] if it was north it would be an outrage if they didn't get one.

Barrett does know jack [censored], don't know why anyone bothers listening to ambulance chasers like him & Hutchy. They just dribble their own opinions dressed up as fact based on rmours they've heard, anyone here could do the same.

Barrett does know jack [censored], don't know why anyone bothers listening to ambulance chasers like him & Hutchy. They just dribble their own opinions dressed up as fact based on rmours they've heard, anyone here could do the same.

Having worked with Damian for best part of 10 years at current bun, I can tell you he may look like a [censored] with his glasses, but he actually is the most professional and ethical journalist that the HS has had in past decade.

Unlike many other journos he sources stories and 95% and he doesn't make grandiose statements, unless he has first-hand knowledge.

The only bias he ever shows is to North and it's not over the top like some.

But back to actual topic.

Can somebody tell me why if we got pick 1 as a priority we would take Boyd and not trade this pick for a quality young midfielder?

Why do we need Boyd when we already have Clark, Dawes, Hogan, Watts and Howey as tall forwards, not to mention Fitzy as back up? Is the bloke who picked five of them in a forward line with Kent aware that all the sides in the finals have a maximum of three tall forwards (some have just two)? Why do you think that is?

And it's not as if pick 1 is a bonus. Do you think Jack Watts is rapt he has had to deal with the No.1 label and ensuing expectation his whole career?

TRADE

we need a ready made star

I love these threads

a PP or boyd is the only thing that will get steven out of stkilda

If we get a priority pick and if Boyd is considered a ‘Lebron’ pick we must take him unless we can get full value out of any trade.

Am I missing something but what's with the hype about Taylor Adams? IMO he's this years Josh Caddy. I just don't see where this hype is coming from. I'm not saying he doesn't have talent but he ain't no Crouch or O'Meara. Yes we need mids & yes let's trade hard for mids but to use a high trade for him would not help us. Scott Selwood on the other hand is another story. A proven mid with a few seasons under him from a professional (ahem) club. Used as a tagger but gets his own ball like Carrazzo. (Not that we would use him in that role). He wants to return to Vic, we will have Roos and most importantly we may have half a chance.

Adams won't cost us pick 2, so I don't see the problem with the hype.

Shuey is about the only realistic target atm that would be worth giving up pick 2 - that has insinuated that he'd like to come back to Vic.

Being a Dees supporter, he'd be worth pursuing.

I think it's feasible that we get pick 3 as a priority pick.

I don't think the afl want to take pick 1 off GWS.

Picks 2 and 3 sound awesome to me.

Edited September 6, 201311 yr by Bring-Back-Powell

I'm starting to think we will get pick one on the proviso that we trade it on, given the right deal of course.

A while back someone brought up a system used I think in US where the pick is to be traded but if the right offer is not made it reverts back to the team given the pick.

Could anyone fill us in on how it works because I now think that's what is going to happen. It takes the heat out of giving us a PP with the other clubs.

I'm starting to think we will get pick one on the proviso that we trade it on, given the right deal of course.

A while back someone brought up a system used I think in US where the pick is to be traded but if the right offer is not made it reverts back to the team given the pick.

Could anyone fill us in on how it works because I now think that's what is going to happen. It takes the heat out of giving us a PP with the other clubs.

That was me, and that is an rpfc original - trade the pick and if Kevin Sheahan (and whoever the people are that make sure the trades are ok) thinks we haven't been offered an acceptable trade, the pick is given to us for the draft.

The NBA has 'protection' of picks where you can trade a high pick but have it come back to you should that pick be in top 3, or 5, etc. That's very different to this though.

The AFL already 'signs off' on all trades so that no club is getting fleeced, so it would simply be an extension of that.

Edited September 6, 201311 yr by rpfc

That was me, and that is an rpfc original - trade the pick and if Kevin Sheahan (and whoever the people are that make sure the trades are ok) thinks we haven't been offered an acceptable trade, the pick is given to us for the draft.

The NBA has 'protection' of picks where you can trade a high pick but have it come back to you should that pick be in top 3, or 5, etc. That's very different to this though.

The AFL already 'signs off' on all trades so that no club is getting fleeced, so it would simply be an extension of that.

Thanks 'rpfc', good idea. I think something like that is what will happen here. It seems Roos and Jackson are pushing this line, it would appease the other clubs (at least a little bit) to have a shot at number one and not have it go to GWS again. It's a good strategy and I like it, I do think that we will still end up with the pick but the other clubs will have to put up or shut up.

Thinking that if we get a PP it will be either no 1 (perhaps with the proviso it be traded for existing player/s) or what pick would have been the Bombers first pick. No 1 makes it clear we need help, Bombers first pick makes it easier for the other clubs to swallow.

We need help, it will be pick 1 the other teams will taste the bottom of the ladder again at some point

Am I missing something but what's with the hype about Taylor Adams? IMO he's this years Josh Caddy.

hell no

Caddy had done nothing when he left GC and still hasnt , and doesnt have any strengths

Taylor Adams has had an outstanding season and can do a number of things really well

he blows Caddy away in every stat

http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_player_compare?tid1=10&pid1=3453&tid2=25&pid2=3651&type=A&fid1=S&fid2=S

Not to mention hes a year younger and a season younger

Adrian Anderson on 3AW who knows what the "formula" is says it's unlikely we'll get a PP.

Adrian Anderson on 3AW who knows what the "formula" is says it's unlikely we'll get a PP.

That's amazing, old. There is no way he could be basing any of that on any kind of formula. I've depressingly been through the record books back to the 80s and so far haven't found a worse seven-year span for any team, and that includes the final death bed years of Fitzroy, the Bad News Bears, the mortifyingly bad Swans, Tigers, and the worst Blues side in their history. In those seven years, we've been given one first round priority pick and one second round. I'd love to see his "formula" if we don't qualify.