Why not take this all a step further and ask who are the people feeding her and others in the media with the information for these stories and why?

the crux of the matter. Maybe we need to get "Barry the Baptist" from "Lock Stock & 2 Smoking Barrells" onto the case...

Amazing, amazing thread!

Amazing, amazing thread!

Can we send it to Crikey.com?

and finally ... a small semblance of sanity

Dark artists drop the ball

Not surprising Tim Lane fails to mention Carlton here.

Wlison tweeted:

"@demonland @whispering_jack @theage @CamSchwab the supposition of this attack is an offensive slur and I ask that it is withdrawn"

Well done WJ... seems to have pushed a few buttons... CW can give, but she sure can't take.

Wlison tweeted:

"@demonland @whispering_jack @theage @CamSchwab the supposition of this attack is an offensive slur and I ask that it is withdrawn"

Well done WJ... seems to have pushed a few buttons... CW can give, but she sure can't take.

It's a fake account...ie Carowhine Wilson etc... Caroline Wilson ‏@CarowhineWilson

cheers

Wlison tweeted:

"@demonland @whispering_jack @theage @CamSchwab the supposition of this attack is an offensive slur and I ask that it is withdrawn"

Well done WJ... seems to have pushed a few buttons... CW can give, but she sure can't take.

wow.

Supposition of this attack hey Wilson. Isn't that eminating from you?

You have even dragged Jim into this....Haven't you...

What exactly do you want withdrawn?

If you reported facts rather than your emotions then maybe you would gain more respect.

Waiting in the shadows.....

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t's a fake account...ie Carowhine Wilson etc... Caroline Wilson ‏@CarowhineWilson

I've actually wondered about that myself... sometimes it seems to be a fake account and at other times it seems it could be real. Confusing. But regardless, if nothing else, it will get WJ's excellent pieces more widely read.

Caroline Wilson does not have a Twitter account.

Anyone who believes she does is a peanut.

Caroline Wilson does not have a Twitter account.

Anyone who believes she does is a peanut.

Apologies for my error mein furer!

If she calls herself Carowhine then it must be the genuwhine article.

Wlison tweeted:

"@demonland @whispering_jack @theage @CamSchwab the supposition of this attack is an offensive slur and I ask that it is withdrawn"

Well done WJ... seems to have pushed a few buttons... CW can give, but she sure can't take.

The supposition of her tweet is an offensive slur in which she's suggesting that Dean Bailey and all those who stated the whole vault thing was no more than a 30 second aside are liars. Whether she's the real deal or not she should now put up and shut up by revealing her sources and indicating who gave her the "evidence" she's relying on and what was the nature of that evidence. After all, she claims to have information that the MFC and no other club breached AFL rules and that two of its employees are going to lose their livelihoods as a result.

The supposition of her tweet is an offensive slur in which she's suggesting that Dean Bailey and all those who stated the whole vault thing was no more than a 30 second aside are liars. Whether she's the real deal or not she should now put up and shut up by revealing her sources and indicating who gave her the "evidence" she's relying on and what was the nature of that evidence. After all, she claims to have information that the MFC and no other club breached AFL rules and that two of its employees are going to lose their livelihoods as a result.

rumpole you don't seriously expect her to reveal her source do you?

Come on a little touch of the real world please.

What's a supposition anyway?

I thought it was something they stuffed up your rear end to make you feel better?

What's a supposition anyway?

I thought it was something they stuffed up your rear end to make you feel better?

Do you have much stuffed up there?

Please folks ... let's keep it friendly and genteel around here just in case the real Carowhine, er, um ... Caroline has look in here.

We don't want her to think we're a bunch of savages like her mob who put our memberships in microwaves when they're unhappy about things.

We're not like that at all. We just look at things on the bright side.

If no twit account... what about Farce-book ?

Caroline Wilson does not have a Twitter account.

Anyone who believes she does is a peanut.

No need to call someone a "peanut".

And, how do you know she doesn't have a Twitter account ?

Even if this a fake as I and I presume Hardtack have always thought it could be, it will spread the message.

The account does have 6,433 Followers - mostly footy fans I would think too.

If you go to the page you'll notice it is followed by Mark Neeld, Rohan Connolly, MFC and even Demonland...

No need to call someone a "peanut".

And, how do you know she doesn't have a Twitter account ?

Even if this a fake as I and I presume Hardtack have always thought it could be, it will spread the message.

The account does have 6,433 Followers - mostly footy fans I would think too.

If you go to the page you'll notice it is followed by Mark Neeld, Rohan Connolly, MFC and even Demonland...

She had a twiitter account - but closed it when she failed to attract any followers

if it is truly from her twitter account (I doubt it, she seems to have no sense of humour so would not call herslef carowhine) but if it it is true, then she needs to learn of a phrase called "Freedom of speech" If she was taken to court the first thing she would say is "I have no agenda, I base everything on proof I am given. this thread is not nasty or threatening. nor is it false in any way. they are a collection of articles and media she is responsible for. no agenda here just proof we have been given of her bias..

those who live in glass houses should not throw stones. or some smartarse saying like that applies to her here.

This might not have an immediate bearing on the question of Hit and Miss Wilsons attacks on the MFC, but I think it provides an additional line of questioning about the extent to which she graces (or otherwise) the once noble art of the sports journalist.

I, for one (and having a disabled athlete in the family), was shocked by the YouTube clip linked to a posting in the Wilson in the Gutter thread showing her dismissal of disabled sport as supposedly not sport at all. But I wasnt the only one, and there were a few postings registering dismay before the issue got overrun by responses to other Carolingual* dross that seemed to be flushing down the drain almost hourly for a while there.

Its easy enough to say that the comments themselves reveal the absence of any basic sense of humanity or decency (let alone grasp of equity) that we ought to expect of any journalist. But The Age is unlikely to be at all moved by that, given who can pass as a journalist in other parts of most newspapers nowadays.

Theres a different line of attack, though, one that calls into question her elementary capacity to function as a sports journalist. Her remarks about disable sport in fact show a complete misunderstanding not just of disabled sport but of sport itself.

In a book called The Philosophy of Sport, the British academic Steven Connor argues that sport, all sport is based on two things: (i) physical exertion (he takes sport to be the strenuous use of the body, differentiating it from games, like chess, which might need bodily movement but not exertion: and (ii) constraints imposed on the use of the body in some way (the offside rule which means you cant occupy a certain part of the ground) or use some part of the body (hands in soccer) or use some part in a particular way (to throw the ball in real football except in the case of Geelong, obviously).

So, Connor says, all sport involves bodies that are one way or another disabled. And then he adds, in a way that ought to shame Wilson not just for her understanding of the disabled but also for her understanding of sport itself. Stick with it, its a bit dense but worth the effort:

The objects and instruments of playing sport are the means of both imposing and surpassing disability, of imposing disability in order for it to be possible partially to overcome it. It is for this reason that there is no real difference between able-bodied and disabled sports, since all sports are means towards the exertion of freedoms through the imposition of impediment. Disabled sports deserve our interest and support, not just in order to give us an opportunity to be condescendingly generous with our attention, or because they solicit our respect for the spirit of striving they exemplify, but because sport is not possible without the assumption of disability, which means that disabled sports are the only kind there are.

I guess someone can say easily enough that the problem with expecting sports journalists to understand sport would be to open a can vault of worms that would see the likes of Robinson and Denham disposed of as well and that would only be the beginning. But theres something really, basically, fundamentally disturbing about Wilsons incomprehension of what shes supposed to be writing about that puts her beyond common or garden buffoons like that pair; and Im grateful for how Connor explains why.

* my attempted coinage, not to be confused with Carolingus. Definitely. (see Online Urban Dictionary).

excellent post!

Can we send it to Crikey.com?

Lead the way

If she calls herself Carowhine then it must be the genuwhine article.

Could definitely make it into the Herald Sun!

Wilson does not have a twitter account!

It needs to be said again, lest more look foolish.