Collingwood are not that stupid BUT if so quick before they change their minds throw in Martin and there you have it!

all sounding great! olisik whoever you are we are with you:)

strong rumors everywhere i look that dawes and wellingham for pick 13

That would be a massive get for us if true.

melbourne will make the 8-12 if we get dawes and welling ham :..I'm getting excited and don't mind admitting it

If the club is smart, and they seem to be saying the right things. The club wont mortgage itself buy paying overs for other trades or FA's. I hope the club is taking pick 3 and 4 off the table regardless of the Viney situation. Pick 13 is up for grabs and Dawes and Wellingham would be a good get. Collingwood need to trade to release salary cap pressure. No need to give them a trump card to another star by giving away our top picks.

The way i see it, is that Collingwood require a forward/ruckman and Key Position Back to replace Tarrant. Maybe Martin could be the bait to entice the Pies to play Martin down back.

Neeld spoke about being the hardest club to play against. I hope this extends to whole FD and not just the players.

Could not have put it better.

if it's not true you guys are going to pay big time!

strong rumors everywhere i look that dawes and wellingham for pick 13

Pick 4 according to Gerard Healy

Next week is going to be even bigger then this week.

My mouth is watering, so meny twists and turns in this plot.

What's going to happen by the end of October?

If we pick up either Dawes of Wellingham I would be happy.

I may be hard of thinking but it occurs to me that what the club gets in Dawes is a more reliable, less flamboyant replacement for Jurrah. I wonder if we would be chasing him if we still had a fit and able Liam on board. Just a thought...

No I am not disregarding that at all, you are reading between the lines or looking for an argument.

What I am suggesting is that perhaps the lure of, the likelihood of a flag plus some more money MIGHT be too tempting to knock back and I think that is fairly clear.

Just postulating like every one else in this thread.

Just because someone says something does not mean it is set in concrete; remember one Mitch Clark.

But why bog yourself down on the unlikeliest scenarios ? it just makes you look like one of the nuffies.

I suppose the worse case of a youngish key position forward with experience ( Dawes) and a b+ mid with speed and run(wellingham) for pick 4 as well as either Viney or a top quality mid ( toumpas/wines ) at position 3 and probably pick 13 + 18 (from pies) does not seem too bad

Edited October 3, 201212 yr by Need neeld

Guys massive chance to pull this off! Tim Harrington met with Geoff Walsh today and offerd pick 4 for wellingham and dawes.

If we snag both of them plus a byrnes and Toumpas and Viney.. This could be one heck of a year 2013!

Pick 4 according to Gerard Healy

That's what Collingwood wants.

Melbourne are surely not silly enough to even contemplate it. If they do that's just about it for me.

That's what Collingwood wants.

Melbourne are surely not silly enough to even contemplate it. If they do that's just about it for me.

Maybe 13 + Martin.

Guys massive chance to pull this off! Tim Harrington met with Geoff Walsh today and offerd pick 4 for wellingham and dawes.

If we snag both of them plus a byrnes and Toumpas and Viney.. This could be one heck of a year 2013!

No. That's what Collingwood want. Not what we offered - according to a news report.

That's what Collingwood wants.

Melbourne are surely not silly enough to even contemplate it. If they do that's just about it for me.

From what i have read we offered it...

Think pick 18 may be involved

Only worth considering if Viney is 2nd rounder.

Could end up with Toumpas, Viney, Wellingham, Kennedy, Vlastuin as Mids and Dawes down forward.

We need mature players, and their isnt exactly a smorgasboard of them knocking on our door.

Edited October 3, 201212 yr by olisik

Guys massive chance to pull this off! Tim Harrington met with Geoff Walsh today and offerd pick 4 for wellingham and dawes.

If we snag both of them plus a byrnes and Toumpas and Viney.. This could be one heck of a year 2013!

How the hell could possibly be seen as a win!!!!

Giving up the 4th best kid in the country for a good 2nd forward and a unproven mid!!

Maybe 13 + Martin.

That would be worst case scenario to me. But I'd prefer not. I reckon Wellingham is worth a pick in the 20's and Dawes a pick in the 30's.

We don't need to be desperate for other club's B graders.

From what i have read we offered it...

Think pick 18 may be involved

Where have you read it ?

Be specific ?

No wriggle room.

You read it on the net didn't you ?

Edited October 3, 201212 yr by Ben-Hur

That would be worst case scenario to me. But I'd prefer not. I reckon Wellingham is worth a pick in the 20's and Dawes a pick in the 30's.

We don't need to be desperate for other club's B graders.

I think North offered pick 21ish for Wellingham in 2009 before he was in a premiership team.

pick 4 for Dawes and Wellingham? jesus christ. If that happens Im done with the MFC and wont be renewing my membership.

pick 13 for the pair , that I could live with and would actually be a great get for the club

I think North offered pick 21ish for Wellingham in 2009 before he was in a premiership team.

Come back to me when you know.

pick 4 for Dawes and Wellingham? jesus christ. If that happens Im done with the MFC and wont be renewing my membership.

pick 13 for the pair , that I could live with and would actually be a great get for the club

+ 1...Will seriously lose my mind if they give up pick 4...pick 13 and a player, if that's Martin or Petterd etc so be it.

Collingwood needs the best draft picks they can get as quality players would either be too expensive or cost too much to trade for. A high draft pick provides them with a near ready cheap good player that can develop and eases their salary cap pressure. Pick 4 is over the top in my mind. Collingwood NEEDS another ruckman bigtime so will pay overs to get one, while they have the Qstick, I am not sure he is good enough to carry their ruck long term, which is why they will be looking for draft picks. Pick 13 would be a good deal for us no so good for Collingwood if there is no up and coming ruckman left by pick 13.

Welly and Dawes for pick 1 and then if we could then pick up pederson to fit into our backline, brynes crumbing, Rodan crumbing as well as the range of midfielders mentioned we would be a very different and competitive club next year.

#14 and #~45 for Wellingham and Dawes would be plenty. #4 would be madness. We need to keep our early picks.