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Get Real People. If you were in Brisbane's shoes would you pay top $$$ for Stef Martin

He was not a high draft pick for whatever reason....We now fill his position with a better player.

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Aren't you the bloke that wrote on another forum we just had to get games into these young players and we start to compete in finals??

YES! That's exactly my point - at the end of 07 we started a rebuild with draftees, the idea was that they would all peak together from now over the next few - what we have effectively done is trade peak-entering players for past-peak players, essentially skipping the part of players' careers that is supposed to be the most fruitful . again, if we are talking about players like Bate and Dunn, for whom the window has clearly closed, it is a different story.

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No loss at all........he will be 26 in a couple of weeks which makes him older than the "sadly departed" Juice Man !

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Mate the facts are that we have given up 3 good young prospects for some mediocre types in the twilight of their career. We currently have 11 good players at this club - those 3 were not amongst them but they were certainly high on the list of candidates to get there in the next couple of years. Bloody hell we are in trouble.

Seriously if you think Morton, Martin & Gysberts are 3 good young prospects just because of the draft number they were taken then you are deluded.

Lets get this straight once and for all

They were all soft and were a disgrace to the Melbourne jumper and their efforts were weak.

If they were so highly valued do you honestly think the FD would be getting rid of them.

Wake up for golly sake we need change otherwise we will become irrevelant and all the hard work Jimmy Stynes devoted to saving this club will be wasted

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Gysberts may have looked like an altar boy, but he is not soft, not physically anyway.


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Gysberts may have looked like an altar boy, but he is not soft, not physically anyway.

Well he looks soft physically - from an outside POV.

I am happy for the club to make calls on players and bring in guys they want.

As for Stef what he played 19 games and is 27-28??? I'm happy to give another bloke a chance of playing consistant AFL footy. Enjoy the sunshine big fella

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So it's Martin for pick 53 because they won't use 73. Just an extraordinary move. He brought much versatility to the list. No- one here has mentioned our need for a tall defender. Several years ago we correctly asserted that we had a great defense. Though he had limitations Warnock had value against the real talls;kept Petrie to zero at Docklands one day. Now we've lost both him and RIv. Martin who played bloody well as a defender in his early days and is significantly taller than Pedersen, could have been thrown into this role against the Hales, Tippetts, VIckery etc. And he stll might have been our best ruck option. Anyone certain that Jamar,Gawne,andSpencer will be fit on any particular day?

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So it's Martin for pick 53 because they won't use 73. Just an extraordinary move. He brought much versatility to the list. No- one here has mentioned our need for a tall defender. Several years ago we correctly asserted that we had a great defense. Though he had limitations Warnock had value against the real talls;kept Petrie to zero at Docklands one day. Now we've lost both him and RIv. Martin who played bloody well as a defender in his early days and is significantly taller than Pedersen, could have been thrown into this role against the Hales, Tippetts, VIckery etc. And he stll might have been our best ruck option. Anyone certain that Jamar,Gawne,andSpencer will be fit on any particular day?

they wanted 33 and the lions wouldn't budge, 33 would have been stomach-able. They should have told them to go forth and multiply, instead they just said 'here take him'

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I read somewhere he had an off field issue.. more than once.

Wont say what it was because the post will just get pulled..

But it would explain why he's gone.. and maybe why he's gone interstate..

Trust Neeld.. he's been with the best.

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Looks like we were very determined for him to go. Wish someone from the inside could come out and confirm that its true he had no commitment to the caue and Neeld wanted him out. if true then fair enough for the club, time to move on

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EXACTLY....The list was always going to get pulled apart..

At whatever the cost.

It's a pity we didn't get in a coach like Neeld in 4 years ago.After beating only 1 proper club this year and getting battered week in and week out changes were required.Fair dues to Neeld he gave the underformers on our squad enough rope to hang themselves with and now he's acted accordingly.It's obvious that this is a coach that expects high standards and professionalism from his players.It's great to see a coach clearing years of unprofessionalism and a losing culture out of the system.As Chris Scott said last year after Geelongs premiership win.The players here are extremely well coached and that's been the case long before i came to this club.I think Mark Neeld is starting to instill that sort of Geelong like winning mentality into the Melbourne football club.

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I read somewhere he had an off field issue.. more than once.

Wont say what it was because the post will just get pulled..

But it would explain why he's gone.. and maybe why he's gone interstate..

Trust Neeld.. he's been with the best.

I heard he was late alot-and I heard some gossip about being cut-up over a break up .

The lateness is bad enough-the other I would have thought Stef could get over pretty quickly .

Good luck in Brissy Stef.Dont be late!

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Lets get this straight once and for all

They were all soft and were a disgrace to the Melbourne jumper and their efforts were weak..

Wake up for golly sake we need change otherwise we will become irrevelant and all the hard work Jimmy Stynes devoted to saving this club will be wasted

Poor comment. Ridiculous comment. Bad call.

So Gys effort for casey coming back from injury to get smashed and have a broken jaw was weak?

And linking Jimmy's hard work as president to them is simply rubbish. I reckon Jimmy would not want that.

I'm not against removing these players from the list, but your comments about their efforts and passion for team success shows how little you know about the game. Soft post.

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So it's Martin for pick 53 because they won't use 73. Just an extraordinary move. He brought much versatility to the list. No- one here has mentioned our need for a tall defender. Several years ago we correctly asserted that we had a great defense. Though he had limitations Warnock had value against the real talls;kept Petrie to zero at Docklands one day. Now we've lost both him and RIv. Martin who played bloody well as a defender in his early days and is significantly taller than Pedersen, could have been thrown into this role against the Hales, Tippetts, VIckery etc. And he stll might have been our best ruck option. Anyone certain that Jamar,Gawne,andSpencer will be fit on any particular day?

I think you'll find Stefan loved the environment around the club under Bailey and he found it hard to adapt with the stark change in attitude when Neeld and Craig arrived. Things came to a head early in the season when he told the club that he found it a hard place to be around and he was told to go away and get his head right (see 5 weeks out with injured hip) ... things never really got back on track after that.

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I rated Stef, and am disappointed to see him go, but I agree it was the right decision to move him on. But like most of our trade deals we got ripped off. Having read the bombers were set to receive two picks in the 20s for Cale Hooker to go to the eagles as part of the Mitch Brown deal, but Hooker didn't want to go. Surely if we sold Stef as a key defender to the eagles we could have got something better for him in this deal.


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I think you'll find Stefan loved the environment around the club under Bailey and he found it hard to adapt with the stark change in attitude when Neeld and Craig arrived. Things came to a head early in the season when he told the club that he found it a hard place to be around and he was told to go away and get his head right (see 5 weeks out with injured hip) ... things never really got back on track after that.

I think you'll find he loved to run around like a headless chook, with no accountability and no discipline. No blocking, no shepherding, no commitment.

Enjoy the QAFL, Stef.

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I must say I have been in two minds about Stef: but with the arrival of Dawes and Pedersen, and (hopefully) the recovery of Gawn and the return to health of Fitzy, then where would he play?

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Surely if we sold Stef as a key defender to the eagles we could have got something better for him in this deal.

You surely dont believe the Eagles are that stupid. Martin cant play back or forward.

The FD believed Martin was surplus to our needs particularly when we brought in Dawes, Pedersen and co.

He needed to be moved off the list. He was not a keeper. And its informative that with 4 AFL clubs chasing first rucks none of them were chasing Martin.

As it is a Brisbane he will be a back up for LBerger. You would not expect to pay more than a 3rd rounder for that.

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As usual an over supply of armchair experts wanting to get their 2 cents in on why :wacko:

The reason Martin was let go was simply because the FD didn't require him.

The rucks they have covered though Jamar would want to pull his finger out and stop dining on his AA selection. Gawn seems the logical successor but I no idea why Spencer would be preferred over Martin?

Defensively I think we're set and offensively Stef just wasn't making enough impact and this trade period therefore sealed it for him to go.

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And he was a terrible AFL footballer - typical of the 'let's draft a basketballer' era....

As a rookie and therefore speculative draft pick Martin delivered compared to Morton & Gysberts or half a dozen other 1st round picks we've had in the last 5 years and most of those were rated genuine a-grade footballers.

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As a rookie and therefore speculative draft pick Martin delivered compared to Morton & Gysberts or half a dozen other 1st round picks we've had in the last 5 years and most of those were rated genuine a-grade footballers.

Atypical of another poor pick....and exactly when did he 'deliver?'

Even Voss will not turn him around. Will play QAFL most of the year.

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