Lynden Dunn - yes or no?

[titan_uranus 22,752]

I'm really keen to see what the entirety of Demonland thinks. I personally cannot believe anyone thinks that we should be giving Dunn a new contract, but it seems there are plenty who think his last few weeks have earned it, so I really want to know what the general consensus is.

[45HG 1,539]

You've really got it in for him, hey?

[titan_uranus 22,752]

You've really got it in for him, hey?

I do, yes.

But I started this poll to see if I'm in the minority on this one. I'm possibly the leader of the 'I hate Dunn' group, and I'll wear that, but I thought there were more who thought like I did.

[beelzebub 22,324]

I really cant see a whole lot of value in keeping Dunny but having said that theres probably a handful that might jump the queue and be moved on prior to getting to Lynden. His staying for mine, is more dependent upon what happens around him than because of him.

[Brian Wilson 331]

Voted yes. I'm not a big Dunn fan, I just don't see him as being in the bottom group.

I think that this question begs two more questions:

1. How many will we cull/trade?

2. Depending on the answer to q 1., is Dunn in this group?

Sorry Titan, I don't mean to highjack your thread; I'm just interested in the context in which people make their decision on Dunn.

[jumbo returns 6,545]

I really don't think he's been coached well enough.

He's now a big body and needs to shut down a small forward every week.

I think there's a spot for him.

[GM11 702]

I think he would be good value in a good team.

But it will all depend on numbers in the end.

Edited August 19, 2012 by GM11

[titan_uranus 22,752]

Voted yes. I'm not a big Dunn fan, I just don't see him as being in the bottom group.

I think that this question begs two more questions:

1. How many will we cull/trade?

2. Depending on the answer to q 1., is Dunn in this group?

Sorry Titan, I don't mean to highjack your thread; I'm just interested in the context in which people make their decision on Dunn.

Not a hijack at all, the point is to see why people think we should/should not keep him. I see your argument as being logical and making sense. I disagree with the conclusion, of course, as I think we'll cull plenty and he should be in the top 3 or 4 to go anyway.

[demon-4-life 467]

Extra depth. He's hard at it. Not a big fan personally, but can kick it a fair way, has a few strings to his bow and should injuries appear, can pinch hit in a lot of different areas.

[stuie 7,374]

Yes. But only because he's worth more to us than what we would ever get for him.

But by saying worth, I mean as a depth player, not in the regular 22, but just kept handy for injuries etc.

I won't be upset if he's cut though, depending on the balance of senior players ditched.

[jumbo returns 6,545]

Every team has a bottom six.

[Don24 103]

To me he represents everything that is wrong with the MFC....he is a flat track bully.....plays well against the poor young teams and goes missing against good opposition.

Spends half the game playing for free kicks instead of just getting the ball....

Not to mention he is gutless.....he will pick a fight with the youngest kid on the opposition. I was disgusted when I saw him at 1/4 time against the Suns chesting some of the young sun players and mouthing off..... 1 good quarter against a team of kids.....someone needed to remind him we had only won 2 games at that point. Put ur head down and play the game....

[stuie 7,374]

To me he represents everything that is wrong with the MFC....he is a flat track bully.....plays well against the poor young teams and goes missing against good opposition.

Spends half the game playing for free kicks instead of just getting the ball....

Not to mention he is gutless.....he will pick a fight with the youngest kid on the opposition. I was disgusted when I saw him at 1/4 time against the Suns chesting some of the young sun players and mouthing off..... 1 good quarter against a team of kids.....someone needed to remind him we had only won 2 games at that point. Put ur head down and play the game....

I get sick of posters using this "flat track bully" term, personally I can't wait for the day when we are a team of bullies!

[Gippsland Dee 367]

i like him! he fills a role and that seems to fit in with the sort of players that neeld likes. He does his bit for the team whether it be in the fwd or backline. he doesn't have outstanding games but he doesn't seem to have shockers either, just a middle tier player which teams need to support their more porminent players.

Edited August 19, 2012 by young dee enthusiast

[whelan45 202]

He has played quite well since been moved to the back line. Good kicking skills, and holds his own in one on one contests, particularly when the ball hits the ground. I think he has found a spot down there, and possibly saved his career at Melbourne.

What are peoples thoughts on his performance since his move to the backline?

[jumbo returns 6,545]

He has played quite well since been moved to the back line. Good kicking skills, and holds his own in one on one contests, particularly when the ball hits the ground. I think he has found a spot down there, and possibly saved his career at Melbourne.

What are peoples thoughts on his performance since his move to the backline?

I think it has invigorated him and he's performing a task. If he stays disciplined (and there's no reason why he shouldn't) he'll be okay and do okay.

[titan_uranus 22,752]

To me he represents everything that is wrong with the MFC....he is a flat track bully.....plays well against the poor young teams and goes missing against good opposition.

Spends half the game playing for free kicks instead of just getting the ball....

Not to mention he is gutless.....he will pick a fight with the youngest kid on the opposition. I was disgusted when I saw him at 1/4 time against the Suns chesting some of the young sun players and mouthing off..... 1 good quarter against a team of kids.....someone needed to remind him we had only won 2 games at that point. Put ur head down and play the game....

Unsurprisingly, I agree with these critiques of his game.

Every team has a bottom six.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but this argument says 'all clubs have bad players. Dunn is a bad player. Therefore Dunn stays by virtue of all clubs having bad players'. I may have read you wrong, but if not, this is as dumb and ridiculous as any argument I've ever heard.

Edited August 19, 2012 by titan_uranus

[jumbo returns 6,545]

Unsurprisingly, I agree with these critiques of his game.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but this argument says 'all clubs have bad players. Dunn is a bad player. Therefore Dunn stays by virtue of all clubs having bad players'. I may have read you wrong, but if not, this is as dumb and ridiculous as any argument I've ever heard.

Well, yes and no.

Not so much bad, but less skilled that have a job to do. Jordy Mac is not that skilled, but he sticks to a task. You and I both know that these players exist even in premiership teams.

[stuie 7,374]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but this argument says 'all clubs have bad players. Dunn is a bad player. Therefore Dunn stays by virtue of all clubs having bad players'. I may have read you wrong, but if not, this is as dumb and ridiculous as any argument I've ever heard.

You're wrong, so here's the correction... What I believe is being said is that NO team has 22 superstars, not even Geelong or Hawthorn. If you ranked the players from 1-22 you would have players who would be listed as the last 6, doesn't mean they are bad players, just means they're not the best, it's really not that hard to understand when you take off your Dunn hate goggles...

[beelzebub 22,324]

To me he represents everything that is wrong with the MFC....he is a flat track bully.....plays well against the poor young teams and goes missing against good opposition.

Spends half the game playing for free kicks instead of just getting the ball....

Not to mention he is gutless.....he will pick a fight with the youngest kid on the opposition. I was disgusted when I saw him at 1/4 time against the Suns chesting some of the young sun players and mouthing off..... 1 good quarter against a team of kids.....someone needed to remind him we had only won 2 games at that point. Put ur head down and play the game....

Im finding it hard to disagree with much of this

[Redleg 38,030]

Has shaved off the mo so he stays. He is not a great player, but who is in our side. He can do a job, kick a goal, shut a player down and is not our worst. He also has experience. I would give him another year. There are plenty to go before him.

[beelzebub 22,324]

The mind boggles really as the best thing that can be said of him really is he's bad, just not as bad as some. Golly, praise indeed....a real keeper.

[Sir Why You Little 34,920]

Lynden is far from perfect, but he is a big lump who can kick a ball 60 metres.

I like him playing off half back & can also be moved forward if needed.

Other players get moved on before Dunn.

[Dee_Flower 53]

At any normal club he'd be gone in a heartbeat, but at the MFC he's probably the 15th worst player, so he stays - this year.

[General 35]

Had a couple of reasonable games. Hes a fair mark, good kick at goal but ordinary field kicking. His bad ones outweigh the good ones for me. Sick of seeing him carry on when we are being belted. Gives away a lot of free kicks and 50's. Man without a position. I'd like our leftover / depth players to be midfielders. He's not young and not improving.