Liam Jurrah: charged, on bail and discussion closed for now

[Sir Why You Little 36,991]

and why wouldn't it?

It's like talking to a brick wall...Go and read your first post this morning as i did with my first cup.

Says it all..

[olisik 4,060]

It's like talking to a brick wall...Go and read your first post this morning as i did with my first cup.

Says it all..

I am serious, how would playing for casey be any less beneficial then playing for the 1sts?

Because I am pretty sure even Neeld said he would come through casey, so i have no idea what you are basing your comments on at the moment.

[rpfc 28,273]

Ok, we have got as much information as we will get before his case his heard.

From Liam's perspective: He is a 23 kid in an awful situation that he hasn't improved, but that is drawn back to by his own selflessness and the selfishness of others.

From MFC's perspective: The club should stand behind a player they have embraced and help him with his issues and his court case. The club needs to punish him for his drinking and leave the details of the case for NT justice. They can then make a decision after the court case has been decided.

From MFC supporters perspective: Feel helpless and heart-wrenched for a little while and deal with the conflicting desires and emotions the best way you can. Admire/admonish the club for its stand - it's up to you.

From a 'community as a whole' perspective: Use this situation to further your own agenda all you like. The MFC does not bow to pressure from any direction and will do what is right for a young man and a club that wants what is best for him.

[hardtack 10,520]

If there is an Admin available, I think rpfc's post is the perfect point at which to lock this topic up. He has summed it up beautifully.

Edited March 9, 2012 by hardtack

[olisik 4,060]

If there is an Admin available, I think rpfc's post is the perfect point at which to lock this topic up. He has summed it up beautifully.

i agree

[Arrow 1,257]

Other than the enormous respect I have gained for the MFC admin today with their handling of the situation, I also think an enormous amount of respect must go to the media today. On countless occasions they have taken stories of player mistakes and blown them way out of proportion, completely vilifying the player. The reasonable and insightful nature of the majority of the articles today most notably the Flanagan has shown a side of decency I was never aware of. They had a chance for a quick story throwing a young-man under the bus but instead they have hoped to teach all AFL- followers the tough side of life this particular member of the game has.

A pleasant change.

[Sir Why You Little 36,991]

I am serious, how would playing for casey be any less beneficial then playing for the 1sts?

Because I am pretty sure even Neeld said he would come through casey, so i have no idea what you are basing your comments on at the moment.

Because LJ has bought shame onto himself....do you have any idea how humbling it would be to have MFC representatives come up to get him out of court???

He must repay the club as quickly as he can...which i have faith he can do.

An indigenous Elder will not deal with shame easily.

You can't treat our list of boys like Robots olisik....they are all different, and in this case the sooner Liam can play at the MCG the better for all parties.

He may play a couple of games at Casey for Match Practise....but i would not be doing it for punishment.

[Dappa Dan 2,188]

Have been delighted with the clubs actions and responses thus far

Agreed. Although... it's not like saying nothing is a true test. The next few weeks will show us the mettle of the new (sort of) prez and board etc etc...

rpfc has it right on at least this much... we're all entitled as members of the club to monitor and judge how the club deals with Liam the footballer. Anything more than that, we start getting messy and misinformed garbage...

So with that in mind, I hope Liam cops a hefty ban from training with the main squad, as most other teams have done in recent times with players involved in alcohol. If the last few years dealing with Liam is any indication, he'll cop that penalyty sweet, and if we're lucky, put his head down and work his way back into the side and we'll see him before the halfway point this season (probably about when we thought we'd see him anyway)... That's about all anyone on here can say about FOOTBALL... which is what this forum is for.

[jabberwocky 2,301]

If there is an Admin available, I think rpfc's post is the perfect point at which to lock this topic up. He has summed it up beautifully.

In essence I agree, even if RP is a little bit romantic in his expression.

Do we need to keep this thread open? Viewpoints have been raised and debated. A new thread could be started if more official info comes to light?

[olisik 4,060]

Because LJ has bought shame onto himself....do you have any idea how humbling it would be to have MFC representatives come up to get him out of court???

He must repay the club as quickly as he can...which i have faith he can do.

An indigenous Elder will not deal with shame easily.

You can't treat our list of boys like Robots olisik....they are all different, and in this case the sooner Liam can play at the MCG the better for all parties.

He may play a couple of games at Casey for Match Practise....but i would not be doing it for punishment.

I hadn't meant slap him into Casey permanently. I meant for a few weeks...

I laughed at ur robot comparison though, i thought it was a good one. My views are quite right winged but thats just how i roll.

Never mean any disrespect, I just think its always better to look at every variable in the equation, regardless of how sensitive the situation or the emotion involved.

[old dee 23,782]

Ok, we have got as much information as we will get before his case his heard.

From Liam's perspective: He is a 23 kid in an awful situation that he hasn't improved, but that is drawn back to by his own selflessness and the selfishness of others.

From MFC's perspective: The club should stand behind a player they have embraced and help him with his issues and his court case. The club needs to punish him for his drinking and leave the details of the case for NT justice. They can then make a decision after the court case has been decided.

From MFC supporters perspective: Feel helpless and heart-wrenched for a little while and deal with the conflicting desires and emotions the best way you can. Admire/admonish the club for its stand - it's up to you.

From a 'community as a whole' perspective: Use this situation to further your own agenda all you like. The MFC does not bow to pressure from any direction and will do what is right for a young man and a club that wants what is best for him.

I Think you have covered it well rpfc

Nothing more needs to be said.

Edited March 9, 2012 by old dee

[Striker475 696]

Just going to wade in to wish Liam all the best.

Apart from that, to speculate on an ongoing court case is a silly idea, particularly on a public forum where it is possible that members of a future jury could have access to all sorts of speculation that doesn't have a basis in fact.

[simma02 53]

should be careful about what gets written here. prosecutor lawyers are probably all over this thread already.

on a side note what are peoples impressions on how the club would handle this?

do you think they will throw him into the team as soon as he is fit? or do you think he may be put back to casey until it is sorted?

thoughts?

What a load of rubbish!!!! Prosecutor Lawyers have more imprtant things to do and will not read through the crap on this thread to build a case!!! Furthermore, no-one on this thread has any decent information anyway - it's all speculation at this stage. A midless post of the highest order!!!!

Edited March 9, 2012 by simma02

[olisik 4,060]

What a load of rubbish!!!! Prosecutor Lawyers have more imprtant things to do and will not read through the crap on this thread to build a case!!! Furthermore, no-one on this thread has any decent information anyway - it's all speculation at this stage. A midless post of the highest order!!!!

I wouldn't want u as my lawyer if u wouldn't look into every avenue of possible evidence. It has been known that lawyers have convicted people using from sites such as facebook before. So as i said earlier, it would be ignorant to think otherwise.

Also i did see something earlier that could've been used in regards to a phone call. If it has been deleted then good work to the moderators.

[jabberwocky 2,301]

I wouldn't want u as my lawyer if u wouldn't look into every avenue of possible evidence. It has been known that lawyers have convicted people using from sites such as facebook before. So as i said earlier, it would be ignorant to think otherwise.

Also i did see something earlier that could've been used in regards to a phone call. If it has been deleted then good work to the moderators.

There is no evidence here. I am fairly sure that both the prosecution and defence will be in possession of many more facts than any of us Demonland numbskulls.

Edited March 9, 2012 by dandeeman

[jayceebee31 759]

Rubbish.

No teammate of Jurrah's would wish ill upon him, and no player would ever begrude him if he made his way back onto the field.

Players will lose their spot in the side because they are not good enough. I don't want players getting games based on their off field behaviour.

Well that happened to Sylvia but I agree with your principal.

[daisycutter 29,605]

Well that happened to Sylvia but I agree with your principal.

Talking of Col, is he allowed to play for Casey round 1?

A bit of match practice should b good for all concerned

[Jaded No More 68,867]

Well that happened to Sylvia but I agree with your principal.

What I meant was, that I don't want players getting a game because they behaved better than their teammates.

It's different if a player is punished for bad behaviour, but players shouldn't be rewarded with games for good behaviour. It is expected that everyone behaves well off the field, and therefore on field selection is based on on field output only.

[H_T 3,043]

Ok I think rpfc's post above sums it up well until any new updates come to light this thread is closed. Quite a few posts have been deleted accordingly and everyone seems to have had their say. Thanks.

H_T.