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Bombers are shockers for putting up trash for quality!

The mediation was the Bombers putting the spin on it to their fans that they did everything possible to land Caddy.

Pick 19 and either a broken down KPF or average at best 2nd or 3rd string defender..............that must have been so enticing for the Suns considering Caddy was a pick 7 in a strong draft, and according to Terry Wallace would be around a pick 4 in this years draft.

Absolute fools!

 

It will be interesting to follow Caddy's progress next season. So too the Bombers under Hird for that matter.

It will be interesting early next year if we activate the two compensation picks. From our position right now, I think we probably should activate one at least. And perhaps keep one up our sleeve for trade. They are worth their weight in gold come trade time as a bargianing tool. And if there is no trade. There is always 2013-14-15 as options.

The latest hearld sun article on the Caddy trade highlights the suspicious nature of the dealings.

Caddy wanted to come to Melbourne for his sick dad but were told to do a deal with Essendon EXCLUSIVELY. Hence no joy for MFC or the Tiggers.

And so the truth comes out. Another example of the underhanded, manner in which Essendon like to conduct business these days.

I couldn't be happier with the result when everything is considered.....!

 
  On 17/10/2011 at 11:38, Grandson of a gun said:

The latest hearld sun article on the Caddy trade highlights the suspicious nature of the dealings.

Caddy wanted to come to Melbourne for his sick dad but were told to do a deal with Essendon EXCLUSIVELY. Hence no joy for MFC or the Tiggers.

And so the truth comes out. Another example of the underhanded, manner in which Essendon like to conduct business these days.

I couldn't be happier with the result when everything is considered.....!

As I said a few times, if he wanted to come to us a deal would have been done using a compo pick as the base. Stuffed himself. If he was fair dinkum about coming home you would give several victorian options to the GC to deal with. GC obviously smelled a rat and exterminated it. Dons got what they deserved, ratsack. Keep lying you are very good at it, the Coach, senior assistant Coach, CEO, President, the gambling assistant coach etc.

  On 17/10/2011 at 11:59, Redleg said:

As I said a few times, if he wanted to come to us a deal would have been done using a compo pick as the base. Stuffed himself. If he was fair dinkum about coming home you would give several victorian options to the GC to deal with. GC obviously smelled a rat and exterminated it. Dons got what they deserved, ratsack. Keep lying you are very good at it, the Coach, senior assistant Coach, CEO, President, the gambling assistant coach etc.

Pretty naive and silly of his manager if his intention was to get home, but apparently GC asking price was also a little steep. Interesting to see what happens next year because GC may have to be a little more attentive to offers.


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Day, Prestia and a couple of others have already signed extensions.

There may not be the out-of-contract fire sale that some seem to expect.

I'm not sure Caddy's hand will be any stronger if he is out of contract - the teams with low picks in the PSD will likely be interstate clubs, so he won't be able to take that route.

Once again I think we'll be in a stronger position than Essendon.

I reckon we've left ourselves in an extremely strong position and am quietly happy we didn't snare Caddy this year. He will quite likely make his way home next year anyway and will probably be cheaper given he will be OOC. Also, there is likely to be another 17yo mini-draft in which we may be able to snare another O'Meara. Or we can use the picks to go hard at another OOC mid like Pendlebury, Gaff etc. Or failing that, two first rounders plus Viney in a strong draft is a pretty good result.

The Bombers CEO Ian Robson makes me laugh.

He drew comparison to us picking up Clark with a pick 12 as means to justify what they were offering to Caddy as fair.

Clark was uncontracted, wanted to go home to a two team town, where only one of the teams was really interested in getting him, and that team was offering a pick later pick than ours.

We simply had to convince the player to come to us, and our pick was superior...............if anything pick 12 for Clark is a steal compared to the Ottens trade a few years ago.

Caddy wants to come back to Melbourne, is contracted, but wants to deal with the Bombers exclusively...................is it any wonder the Suns did what they did?

If Caddy really wanted to come home, he would have said to the Suns deal with any Melbourne club to get me home, then the Bombers would have found out straight away there offer was junk.

The Bombers have taken the Suns for fools, and in the process have confirmed that they are indeed the foolish ones.

In 12 months time it won't probably matter as they can potentially pick him up for nothing, but it's still great to see them crash and burn like this.

 

The Bombers are finding themselves in nowhere land with an average list with significant deficiencies. They wont be expecting to finish low enough to get early picks any time soon - the picks they will have are going to be 10+ for the foreseeable future. Free agency may help them snare a good player but he'll be towards the end of his career, they'll struggle to top up on great young talent like Caddy because forcing those players into the draft isn't really an option with other clubs lurking with earlier picks. Let's look on the bright side though, they may get some compo picks for Hurley when he goes to GWS as an uncontracted player next year.

Sceeendenfreeek?

schaendfrank?

Schaudenjung?

I just can't quite find the right word for it - but I'm sure it is German and a little bit wrong :)


  On 18/10/2011 at 01:36, timD said:

Sceeendenfreeek?

schaendfrank?

Schaudenjung?

I just can't quite find the right word for it - but I'm sure it is German and a little bit wrong :)

schadenfreude

  On 18/10/2011 at 00:10, Real Demon said:

The Bombers CEO Ian Robson makes me laugh.

He drew comparison to us picking up Clark with a pick 12 as means to justify what they were offering to Caddy as fair.

Clark was uncontracted, wanted to go home to a two team town, where only one of the teams was really interested in getting him, and that team was offering a pick later pick than ours.

We simply had to convince the player to come to us, and our pick was superior...............if anything pick 12 for Clark is a steal compared to the Ottens trade a few years ago.

Caddy wants to come back to Melbourne, is contracted, but wants to deal with the Bombers exclusively...................is it any wonder the Suns did what they did?

If Caddy really wanted to come home, he would have said to the Suns deal with any Melbourne club to get me home, then the Bombers would have found out straight away there offer was junk.

The Bombers have taken the Suns for fools, and in the process have confirmed that they are indeed the foolish ones.

In 12 months time it won't probably matter as they can potentially pick him up for nothing, but it's still great to see them crash and burn like this.

I heard him on SEN this morning trying to convince everyone that they had conducted themselves with the utmost integrity, yeah right.

We can now see how he goes over the next season and if he's ok we can go after him, if he's not weve saved a draft pick.

  On 18/10/2011 at 02:29, RobbieF said:

I heard him on SEN this morning trying to convince everyone that they had conducted themselves with the utmost integrity, yeah right.

We can now see how he goes over the next season and if he's ok we can go after him, if he's not weve saved a draft pick.

I don't think Caddy's manager covered himself in glory either

  On 18/10/2011 at 02:29, RobbieF said:

I heard him on SEN this morning trying to convince everyone that they had conducted themselves with the utmost integrity, yeah right.

We can now see how he goes over the next season and if he's ok we can go after him, if he's not weve saved a draft pick.

RobbieF is this the same Essendon that employed Hird while telling Knights he had their support.

Is this the same Essendon that hired Thompson while he was still coach of Geelong and said they had not spoken.

Integrity my arse.

  On 18/10/2011 at 03:04, daisycutter said:

I don't think Caddy's manager covered himself in glory either

Yep. Biggest load of crap PR spin i heard.

When asked why Caddy and himself only wanted GC to deal with Essendon when he had more chance to come home by opening himself to all clubs.

Said it was a delicate situation with Caddy's family. Hoped for some compassionate ground but didn't want to complicate things with other clubs.

RRRRRight. How is it complicated? Caddy wants to come home. He should be happy to play for any vic team that satisfies GC.


Agree with all of the above - it's pretty hard to have any sympathy for Essendon. I find it delightful that the two clubs that tried to play sneaky buggers got burned this year. There's a lot to be said for being direct and easy to deal with - let that be a lesson to all the posters who insist we play "hard ball" during trade week or in contract negotiations (admittedly this has waned in recent years).

  On 18/10/2011 at 01:48, daisycutter said:

schadenfreude

That's the spirit!

  On 18/10/2011 at 04:03, Nasher said:

Agree with all of the above - it's pretty hard to have any sympathy for Essendon. I find it delightful that the two clubs that tried to play sneaky buggers got burned this year. There's a lot to be said for being direct and easy to deal with - let that be a lesson to all the posters who insist we play "hard ball" during trade week or in contract negotiations (admittedly this has waned in recent years).

I hope that Maric gets picked up by GW$ and North miss out on the freebee they thought they'd get.

  On 18/10/2011 at 03:24, jacey said:

Yep. Biggest load of crap PR spin i heard.

When asked why Caddy and himself only wanted GC to deal with Essendon when he had more chance to come home by opening himself to all clubs.

Said it was a delicate situation with Caddy's family. Hoped for some compassionate ground but didn't want to complicate things with other clubs.

RRRRRight. How is it complicated? Caddy wants to come home. He should be happy to play for any vic team that satisfies GC.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/gold-coast-youngster-josh-caddy-wanted-to-keep-trade-talks-with-essendon-quiet/story-fn69a32t-1226169514357

This is an article in the HUN today about it and I dont think I've read a greater load of [censored] from a football manager since Ricky Nixon was trying to defend hinmself after he lost his pants in a Motel room.

  On 18/10/2011 at 05:02, RobbieF said:

http://www.heraldsun...t-1226169514357

This is an article in the HUN today about it and I dont think I've read a greater load of [censored] from a football manager since Ricky Nixon was trying to defend hinmself after he lost his pants in a Motel room.

Agree. When it became public knowledge on monday or tuesday, why weren't other victorian clubs allowed to trade for him then. Dees and Tigers were told no deal by Caddy and his management and that he would only go to Bombers. He was not fair dinkum about coming home and that is all there is to it.


  On 18/10/2011 at 06:06, Redleg said:

Agree. When it became public knowledge on monday or tuesday, why weren't other victorian clubs allowed to trade for him then. Dees and Tigers were told no deal by Caddy and his management and that he would only go to Bombers. He was not fair dinkum about coming home and that is all there is to it.

Yes, well done to GC - they saw through the BS very early and didn't falter with the PR heat.

  On 17/10/2011 at 06:55, Lutz said:

To be honest, I think both GC & Essendon inadvertently screwed us.

When you don't make an offer, how exactly do you get 'screwed'?

 

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