Sydney to Bulldogs was way over 25.....but lets not split hairs

There is a bit of ambiguity here

Yes, but the point was 'when was a KPF traded, who is ready to go from day dot, who can play KPF for the better part of a decade?'

Doesn't happen too often and Hall to Sydney would be the last time.

Caro was saying pick 12 is a steep trade price - how dumb can you get?

That is just plain ignorant. Unlike Caro.

There is still 300 AFL reporters running around looking for a story because they don't get their break until Christmas, and "Melbourne did a good job" just doesn't sell copy. And nothing else happens untill the end of next week with the release of next years FIXture. So expect more of the same next week, of course unless some poor 18 yo player finds himself in the wrong place at the right time.

With you there, O55. I thought King was a bit sharp, but the more I listen to him, the more I think he tries too hard to make clever points, but instead says the bleedin' obvious or make big statements that flop.

A few years ago King was a shining star among the young assistant coaches but he ended up going nowhere. Today, he's a hack in the media - what a massive fall from grace.

What's more, he's now known for the prediction he made before the finals about how Geelong were no good and going nowhere.

After that, his credibility on anything to do with football, let alone the MFC, is non-existent.

I wonder about a journo who finds it necessary to raise the old furphy about the MFC not standing for anything these days. It was a throw away line that Andrew Demetriou used to bully the previous administration when the club was in debt and performing poorly. There's an outside chance that it might have meant something back then but I disagree that it has any relevance today. If Denham brought it up in the context of the club today then he was either showing his ignorance, being churlish or both.

On topic, I am not sure Denham "Hates" MFC, nor any other journo.

What they do is seize a very easy opportunity to sink the boots in and sensationalize a story / situation.

MFC is easy to do this to because we have had our issues and our off field situation has been more interesting news than most other clubs (maybe St Kilda takes that cake now?).

The only think that can stop it is us getting better in all facets of running the club and playing football.

What we as supporters can do is get our membership above 40,000 to show that we could not care what knobs like Denham think, instead we only care about supporting the club and the people who dedicate themselves to making it successful.

Get on board.....

And again he has a go at Melbourne, writing in the Australian that Kennett was approached by Melbourne powerbrokers, about being our President. Kennett said that he declined. When pressed on SEN Kennett declined to confirm the story. The club has now issued a media statement saying it is garbage. The club also basically told him to watch his own backyard. Denham again attacks the club.

http://www.theaustra...f-1226172259466

http://www.melbourne...84/default.aspx

The fans that turn up to the games are clearly passionate, where i sit those that turn up are just as passionate as most club's fans, it's the ones that don't turn up that worry me.

I'm in the Legends club which is fully sold out, but most weeks there would be less than 50% of the members there. I've seen home games that are pivotal to our season and we still get outnumbered by the opposition supporters. There have been times when I've been ashamed at the turn out and just shake my head wondering what it will take to get some of our supporters out of their homes in front of the TV to actually attending the game live.

Yeah, I have no idea how it's possible that most weeks there could be less than 50% of the members in the members section.

Look, I have 7 Legends memberships and usually there is me, my son and his son and that's it

PS. Note that I'm not the one shaking their head at people who have forked out for memberships and aren't sitting in their seat; you are.

Yeah, I have no idea how it's possible that most weeks there could be less than 50% of the members in the members section.

PS. Note that I'm not the one shaking their head at people who have forked out for memberships and aren't sitting in their seat; you are.

Other than having a go at me was there any point at all to your post? Did it perhaps make you feel better on a Friday afternoon?

Really what was your point?

I notice you left some important parts of my post out that wasn't deliberate was it?

And again he has a go at Melbourne, writing in the Australian that Kennett was approached by Melbourne powerbrokers, about being our President. Kennett said that he declined. When pressed on SEN Kennett declined to confirm the story. The club has now issued a media statement saying it is garbage. The club also basically told him to watch his own backyard. Denham again attacks the club.

http://www.theaustra...f-1226172259466

http://www.melbourne...84/default.aspx

Staggering really......

And I don't really understand any journo's "hatred" of any club.

I work in the media and I know the reality but just report what is there to report and stop the crap flinging.

Other than having a go at me was there any point at all to your post? Did it perhaps make you feel better on a Friday afternoon?

Really what was your point?

My point was two-fold.

Firstly, that it was extremely ironic that you were bemoaning the lack of reserved seats being used when you have a bunch of reserved seats that don't end up getting used.

Secondly, your own anecdote about why your reserved seats were often vacant undermined any link you were trying to draw between the number of people leaving reserved seats vacant and the passion of Melbourne supporters. As your own anecdote indicates, plenty of people buy reserved seats with the intention that they won't necessarily be used each game.

As an aside, having reserved seats sit vacant is in no way unique to Melbourne's reserved seating areas, in case you thought it was. I'm not sure if you're familiar with ticketing at AFL venues (I'm familiar with ticketing at a few here and interstate), but many, many reserved seats are left vacant each week (and this includes not just 'season' reserved seats, but also reserved seats that are pre-purchased for that particular game). Don't take my word for it though; The Age had an article about the AFL's push for reserved seating and the negative imapct on crowds as the sport section's 'editors pick' featured article for a few weeks (or longer).

I notice you left some important parts of my post out that wasn't deliberate was it?

Of course it was deliberate; I deliberately quoted the parts I was replying to since they were relevant to my post.

And then you'll turn around the next season and ask why we aren't competitive, or soft, or bruise free, or whatever.

Becoming a hard team doesn't just happen. It has to be earned. And we have to start winning, and now!

There will be no more tanks!

The hanbaggers turned their on field reputation around in one to two years.......and did it without tanking. Sure some good father son pickups, but their attitude changed, I believe from within the playing group. Sick of the handbag taunts: do our guys have the G&D and true desire to do the same. Maybe they can tweet back to us!

My point was two-fold.

Firstly, that it was extremely ironic that you were bemoaning the lack of reserved seats being used when you have a bunch of reserved seats that don't end up getting used.

Secondly, your own anecdote about why your reserved seats were often vacant undermined any link you were trying to draw between the number of people leaving reserved seats vacant and the passion of Melbourne supporters. As your own anecdote indicates, plenty of people buy reserved seats with the intention that they won't necessarily be used each game.

As an aside, having reserved seats sit vacant is in no way unique to Melbourne's reserved seating areas, in case you thought it was. I'm not sure if you're familiar with ticketing at AFL venues (I'm familiar with ticketing at a few here and interstate), but many, many reserved seats are left vacant each week (and this includes not just 'season' reserved seats, but also reserved seats that are pre-purchased for that particular game). Don't take my word for it though; The Age had an article about the AFL's push for reserved seating and the negative imapct on crowds as the sport section's 'editors pick' featured article for a few weeks (or longer).

Of course it was deliberate; I deliberately quoted the parts I was replying to since they were relevant to my post.

One of the seats I buy is for my son who lives in Townsville and can't attend, that's relevant. My wife doesn't have any interest in football and doesn't attend nor does my third eldest son who also has no interest in football and never has; that doesn't stop me from encouraging them to go.

I buy quite a few other memberships that go unused for the same reason, and of course to help the club. Are you suggesting that this is the norm and that a large percentage of memberships are sold to people that have no intention of using them?

5 pages on this guy.

Far too many are listening to Bartlett's show or reading The Aus.

Ditch both and move on. Leave him to his own agenda which is clearly off the mark.

Patrick Smith is on line stiring up this Kennet approach on sen call up and rip into this looser.

Patrick Smith is on line stiring up this Kennet approach on sen call up and rip into this looser.

I was asked to run for Prime Minister by powerbrokers. That has as much credibility as Kennett's story.

I was asked to run for Prime Minister by powerbrokers. That has as much credibility as Kennett's story.

By Bill Hartley and Bob Hogg?

By Bill Hartley and Bob Hogg?

In the words of Kennett, I can't confirm or deny details.

How has this topic managed to get to 4 pages?

Just shows how we get so sucked in by a goose like Denham.Similary Robertson on SEN on Monday last criticising MFC re lack of discipline ∨ feedback re Sylvia.These clowns have to much say!

Robertson on SEN on Monday last criticising MFC re lack of discipline ∨ feedback re Sylvia.

Translation: "why didn't the MFC give me a scoop on such juicy gossip!"

Easy to sit back and take pot shots at any footy club. The only thing "Robbo" has ever had to run is a bar tab.

Translation: "why didn't the MFC give me a scoop on such juicy gossip!"

Easy to sit back and take pot shots at any footy club. The only thing "Robbo" has ever had to run is a bar tab.

He always sounds off his dial to me!! Have you ever seen him in the outside broadcast tent at theMCG? A very scary sight!!

I like Robbo - as opposed to other journo's I always feel that he is trying to convince himself that what he is saying is important and relevant as much as he is to the listener /reader. Solid as a blamange

I like Robbo - as opposed to other journo's I always feel that he is trying to convince himself that what he is saying is important and relevant as much as he is to the listener /reader. Solid as a blamange

Could this be the bottle talking? I love it when Malthouse treats his questions with disdain & little Robbo goes all quiet...

Translation: "why didn't the MFC give me a scoop on such juicy gossip!"

Easy to sit back and take pot shots at any footy club. The only thing "Robbo" has ever had to run is a bar tab.

I have sat with Robbo & Mike Sheahan & the G ,& agree re his sacredness,worse when he yells.Whilst Mike is member(or was) of the Dees, I am sure in my mind, Robbo does not like us.

I have sat with Robbo & Mike Sheahan & the G ,& agree re his sacredness,worse when he yells.Whilst Mike is member(or was) of the Dees, I am sure in my mind, Robbo does not like us.

Robbo is an Essendon Supporter.