Granted he's done a decent job on Kerr today however this kid is so unreliable with his foot skills it's not remotely funny.

He is so far behind AFL standard and should never wear the jumper again. How many more chances does he want?

These are the type of players we need to weed out if we are ever going to be successful.

I've been harping on about this for literally years now.

It's nothing new.

It's ridiculous isn't it? Just being a 'goer' is not enough anymore. Watching the Hawks yesterday, even their 'fringe players have laser boots and rarely miss targets (even under pressure).

We just can't tolerate this kind of skill-less spuddery anymore. Jones is in the same boat.

We'll never get anywhere with these types of players in the team.

They are momentum killers. It's demoralizing for the rest of the side to have to watch them fU!k it up all the time.

To top it off he gives away a stupid 50. Just drives the dagger through the heart that little bit more.

What a joke. Has to go.

Needs to do a Brad Sewell. Go back and start from scratch to properly learn the art of kicking.

We let go Kyle Cheney and kept Bartram. Unbelievable. He just gave away a dumb 50m penalty too. Worst player in the AFL.

He sure is a joke of a player. Today has to be the last straw.

Its a shame seeing as Bailey had been working so hard over the off season to improve footskills.

I really don't see how he can keep a spot in the team for much longer.

These days we have Nicholson, Bail, Dunn and McKenzie who can take a tagging role.

Simon Godfrey #2 ????

Simon Godfrey #2 ????

He's quicker.

Its a shame seeing as Bailey had been working so hard over the off season to improve footskills.

I really don't see how he can keep a spot in the team for much longer.

These days we have Nicholson, Bail, Dunn and McKenzie who can take a tagging role.

Nicholson was probably an option today, but Kerr would have racked up 30 touches. The others I'm not so sure about. Dunn doesn't look fit enough at the moment, Bail is injured and McKenzie I think is better served just trying to win the ball instead of tagging every week.

Really what is highlighted here is that we are short on athletically gifted midfield types (and might get shorter if we lose Scully). I'm hoping in the rookie draft (or main draft this year if the players are good enough) we pick up a few experienced gun running state league midfielders as it will help put pressure on others to get a game.

I admit it is a glaring hole in his game, but we need to bear in mind that it's the only area he falls down in. Yes, we need to stop him from kicking, but he is our best stopper, he rarely fails one-on one and he is one of the few players in our team who knows how to compete. I'd prefer to see them hire him a kicking coach and see if they can't fix his kicking that hold a witch hunt and delist him.

Nicholson was probably an option today, but Kerr would have racked up 30 touches. The others I'm not so sure about. Dunn doesn't look fit enough at the moment, Bail is injured and McKenzie I think is better served just trying to win the ball instead of tagging every week.

Really what is highlighted here is that we are short on athletically gifted midfield types (and might get shorter if we lose Scully). I'm hoping in the rookie draft (or main draft this year if the players are good enough) we pick up a few experienced gun running state league midfielders as it will help put pressure on others to get a game.

I was thinking long term rather than shorter.

I thought he was alright. Should have kicked three goals, but they just didn't go straight today. On another day they will. Howe, Sylvia and Morton all also missed sitters today. They're down on confidence, it happens. Barts put Kerr down hard and it was nearly a quarter till he (Kerr) touched it again. Would still prefer him in the team to Strauss or Bennell.

I admit it is a glaring hole in his game, but we need to bear in mind that it's the only area he falls down in. Yes, we need to stop him from kicking, but he is our best stopper, he rarely fails one-on one and he is one of the few players in our team who knows how to compete. I'd prefer to see them hire him a kicking coach and see if they can't fix his kicking that hold a witch hunt and delist him.

It's not the only area. You're talking about his execution of the kicking skill.

His decision-making is also terrible. And it's improves in recent times, but it's still terrible.

We have to get the broom out at seasons end, and there will be some casualties. Barts give it his all but missing open goals and just tagging a player is not going to land us members.

I think he may have just played himself out of a new contract. Sad because he has tried to work on his game, but it just didn't happen for him.

I thought he was alright. Should have kicked three goals, but they just didn't go straight today. On another day they will. Howe, Sylvia and Morton all also missed sitters today. They're down on confidence, it happens. Barts put Kerr down hard and it was nearly a quarter till he (Kerr) touched it again. Would still prefer him in the team to Strauss or Bennell.

On another day it would have been the same result. I'm not even joking when i say he would kick 1 out of 10 from 35 metres on the run.

Nicholson was probably an option today, but Kerr would have racked up 30 touches. The others I'm not so sure about. Dunn doesn't look fit enough at the moment, Bail is injured and McKenzie I think is better served just trying to win the ball instead of tagging every week.

Really what is highlighted here is that we are short on athletically gifted midfield types (and might get shorter if we lose Scully). I'm hoping in the rookie draft (or main draft this year if the players are good enough) we pick up a few experienced gun running state league midfielders as it will help put pressure on others to get a game.

This is where I've been calling for us to recruit Myles Sewell from North Ballarat. Not only is he a clearance specialist but he's shown he can perform a run with role very well. Should be seriously looked at!

It's such a shame. The guy gives it all week in week out.

He runs all day, tackles stick and can keep an in form Kerr to 17 possessions.

His descision making has actually improved this year.

Would love to know which junior footy coach tought this kid how to kick. It's not like he is a 6 foot 6 ruckman

It's ridiculous isn't it? Just being a 'goer' is not enough anymore. Watching the Hawks yesterday, even their 'fringe players have laser boots and rarely miss targets (even under pressure).

We just can't tolerate this kind of skill-less spuddery anymore. Jones is in the same boat.

We'll never get anywhere with these types of players in the team.

They are momentum killers. It's demoralizing for the rest of the side to have to watch them fU!k it up all the time.

I was at the game today, Jones was in our best. Easily. Went in hard at the ball every time and won some very hard ball gets. Putting him in the same category as Bartram is very very wrong. Bartram is an absolute hack. Jones wins the ball, he needs some polished outside players to be presenting for the feed off.

He's arguably our worst kick, if not one of the worst in the AFL. Yet how many times does he end up as the last handball in the chain and ends up kicking? Something wrong their structuraly.

Cause the opposition don't rate him they allow him to be the one with ball in hand, just don't cover him when we spread.

This is why it's important we develop the likes of Strauss, Blease, Bail, Nicholson, Bennell & Tapscott. The more of them that develop and the quicker they do, the quicker Bartram wont be in the team.

On another day it would have been the same result. I'm not even joking when i say he would kick 1 out of 10 from 35 metres on the run.

I reckon I've seen him kick as many as he misses. Does anyone know his career stats for Goals/Behinds?

It's ridiculous isn't it? Just being a 'goer' is not enough anymore. Watching the Hawks yesterday, even their 'fringe players have laser boots and rarely miss targets (even under pressure).

We just can't tolerate this kind of skill-less spuddery anymore. Jones is in the same boat.

We'll never get anywhere with these types of players in the team.

They are momentum killers. It's demoralizing for the rest of the side to have to watch them fU!k it up all the time.

'Jones is in the same boat'.....staggeringly stupid comment!!!!!!!! If not for Nathan Jones today, the winning margin would have been doubled. He worked harder in ways nobody, and I mean NOBODY did today. He played the running link, got under the pack, and presented with vigour in the backline when everyone else stood still. UNBELIEVABLE.

I was at the game today, Jones was in our best. Easily. Went in hard at the ball every time and won some very hard ball gets. Putting him in the same category as Bartram is very very wrong. Bartram is an absolute hack. Jones wins the ball, he needs some polished outside players to be presenting for the feed off.

+1 He was our best today by my estimation. Beyond gutsy. And yet he still gets the kind of mindless criticism that 'Range Rover' serves up. No idea.