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  On 12/11/2015 at 22:59, Petraccattack said:
cant do it soon enough for mine. A dank soulless place if ever existed :rolleyes:
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      On 12/11/2015 at 22:59, Petraccattack said:
    Did you read the bit where he suggests the new stadium could be the new home of the MFC.

    Faaaaaarrrrrrrkkkk off it will be.

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      On 12/11/2015 at 22:59, Petraccattack said:
      On 12/11/2015 at 23:04, beelzebub said:

    cant do it soon enough for mine. A dank soulless place if ever existed :rolleyes:

    "IF" and when they do it, they must learn from their mistakes and have the goals face the other way - sun. Or just make a full on dome, permanent in-doors venue.

    By then, we could all be pushing up daisies. Sorry dc...

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    The 4 clubs chained to Etihad Stadium will all be dead by the time that slag heap is demolished.

    Wayne Jackson must be so proud of his legacy.

    The AFL should buy out the contract today so Victorian clubs can atleast try and make money...!

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    Once again we are reminded that Islam is a religion of peace.

    Unless you are having a Friday night drink in Paris.

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      On 13/11/2015 at 23:41, Biffen said:

    Once again we are reminded that Islam is a religion of peace.

    Unless you are having a Friday night drink in Paris.

    Find a fanatic or two, give them some weak minded followers and add a dose of ideology .....

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      On 14/11/2015 at 02:02, Moonshadow said:

    All religions are capable of producing radical followers biff

    you'll get prickles sitting on that fence, moonie

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      On 14/11/2015 at 02:13, daisycutter said:

    you'll get prickles sitting on that fence, moonie

    Didn't realise it was about taking sides, is it that b&w dc?

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      On 14/11/2015 at 03:19, Moonshadow said:

    Didn't realise it was about taking sides, is it that b&w dc?

    arguments of equivalency suggest a lazy level of apologia

    treat each case on it's merits if you want to contribute, moonie

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    Agree generally with each case on its merits dc, and the Paris actions are indefensible, but perspective is also useful tool for response.

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      On 14/11/2015 at 02:02, Moonshadow said:

    All religions are capable of producing radical followers biff

    suicide bombers seem to have a particular favourite though eh

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    Just heard on the radio that the crowd forced to evacuate the football stadium in Paris did so singing the national anthem.

    What a wonderful example of humanity's ability to rise above the malevolent evil and violence of a bunch of thugs and cowards.

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    1 :)

    Tic toc

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      On 14/11/2015 at 02:02, Moonshadow said:

    All religions are capable of producing radical followers biff

    BS Moon

    Wake up.

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      On 14/11/2015 at 03:28, daisycutter said:

    arguments of equivalency suggest a lazy level of apologia

    treat each case on it's merits if you want to contribute, moonie

    So, since you seem to be more confident in your knowledge of these than the French security forces at the moment, what are the ‘merits’ of this chain of atrocities, Daisy?

    I’d have thought that Moonie’s point is that we might need to get beyond knee-jerk religious labels before the particulars of the Paris attacks are identified and understood. If that’s sitting on a fence, so be it but I can’t see how it’s any more intellectually ‘lazy’ than Biff’s comment, which might be a good one liner but isn’t anything other than that.

    Meanwhile, back in the world:

    ‘The France midfielder Lassana Diarra has revealed that his cousin, Asta Diakité, was killed during Friday night’s attack.

    ‘Diarra played 80 minutes of the match against Germany. In a statement posted on Twitter, he said his cousin was like “a big sister to me … In this climate of terror, it is important for all of us who are representatives of our country and its diversity to speak and remain united against a horror that has no colour, no religion.”

    ‘Diarra’s team-mate Antoine Griezmann, meanwhile, said that his sister Maude had escaped the attack at the Bataclan concert hall which left at least 87 people dead.’ (Guardian Online)

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      On 14/11/2015 at 21:45, Dr John Dee said:

    So, since you seem to be more confident in your knowledge of these than the French security forces at the moment, what are the ‘merits’ of this chain of atrocities, Daisy?

    I’d have thought that Moonie’s point is that we might need to get beyond knee-jerk religious labels before the particulars of the Paris attacks are identified and understood. If that’s sitting on a fence, so be it but I can’t see how it’s any more intellectually ‘lazy’ than Biff’s comment, which might be a good one liner but isn’t anything other than that.

    Meanwhile, back in the world:

    ‘The France midfielder Lassana Diarra has revealed that his cousin, Asta Diakité, was killed during Friday night’s attack.

    ‘Diarra played 80 minutes of the match against Germany. In a statement posted on Twitter, he said his cousin was like “a big sister to me … In this climate of terror, it is important for all of us who are representatives of our country and its diversity to speak and remain united against a horror that has no colour, no religion.”

    ‘Diarra’s team-mate Antoine Griezmann, meanwhile, said that his sister Maude had escaped the attack at the Bataclan concert hall which left at least 87 people dead.’ (Guardian Online)

    BS Dr.

    There is intellectual argument.

    There is root cause.

    There is precedent.

    There is my part of Paris.

    And there is them.

    7years ago I lived near the Bataclan,and met hostility for being "white French"

    despite my terrible accent.

    It's like St Kilda once was-The Marias- but now the hostile immigrants have decided it was too friendly,welcoming,inclusive,gay inclusive,artsy,drinky or unacceptable.

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      On 14/11/2015 at 21:50, Biffen said:

    BS Dr.

    There is intellectual argument.

    There is root cause.

    There is precedent.

    There is my part of Paris.

    And there is them.

    I didn't realise that there was some sort of competition for owning reactions to this new outrage but if there is I'll leave it to the Parisians to decide.

    And merely repeating 'BS' doesn't make an argument or even a coherent observation. You think Islam is a monolith, fine. I'm just glad that those who do the security analysis stuff (whether it turns out that they've missed something again this time or not) have a slightly more nuanced view of the world.

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      On 14/11/2015 at 21:45, Dr John Dee said:

    So, since you seem to be more confident in your knowledge of these than the French security forces at the moment, what are the ‘merits’ of this chain of atrocities, Daisy?

    I’d have thought that Moonie’s point is that we might need to get beyond knee-jerk religious labels before the particulars of the Paris attacks are identified and understood. If that’s sitting on a fence, so be it but I can’t see how it’s any more intellectually ‘lazy’ than Biff’s comment, which might be a good one liner but isn’t anything other than that.

    and pray tell me what a throw-away line like "All religions are capable of producing radical followers" adds to the discussion

    it's a total non-statement

    i never stated any confidence in "my knowledge" of this situation and your reference to "merits" is being disingenuous

    nor did i make any knee-jerk religous generalisations

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      On 14/11/2015 at 21:58, Dr John Dee said:

    I didn't realise that there was some sort of competition for owning reactions to this new outrage but if there is I'll leave it to the Parisians to decide.

    And merely repeating 'BS' doesn't make an argument or even a coherent observation. You think Islam is a monolith, fine. I'm just glad that those who do the security analysis stuff (whether it turns out that they've missed something again this time or not) have a slightly more nuanced view of the world.

    I'm not going to keep rationalising the destruction of the western world -and the best parts of it.

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      On 13/11/2015 at 02:37, Sir Why You Little said:

    The 4 clubs chained to Etihad Stadium will all be dead by the time that slag heap is demolished.

    Wayne Jackson must be so proud of his legacy.

    The AFL should buy out the contract today so Victorian clubs can atleast try and make money...!

    We live in hope oh wise one.

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      On 13/11/2015 at 23:41, Biffen said:

    Once again we are reminded that Islam is a religion of peace.

    Unless you are having a Friday night drink in Paris.

    I suggest you actually do some kind of reading or show some kind of attempt to understand what you seek to judge.

    These terrorists are no more Muslim than any murderer in the Western world is Christian.

    From the Quran:

    "Whoever harms a dhimmi (any non-Muslim) then I will be his opponent on the day of judgement" Prophet Muhammad

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