The No T$ No B$ Thread

[Biffen 12,323]

I suggest you actually do some kind of reading or show some kind of attempt to understand what you seek to judge.

These terrorists are no more Muslim than any murderer in the Western world is Christian.

From the Quran:

"Whoever harms a dhimmi (any non-Muslim) then I will be his opponent on the day of judgement" Prophet Muhammad

I'm glad you have found a peaceful quote from that tome.Although I suspect if it is a quote from Mohammed then it is a Hadith.

However,continue to delude yourself into justifying Dark Ages Ideology in 2015.Simpleton.

Also Dhimmi means Kaffir I presume.

Are you ready to take offence you zilch?

[daisycutter 28,504]

I suggest you actually do some kind of reading or show some kind of attempt to understand what you seek to judge.

These terrorists are no more Muslim than any murderer in the Western world is Christian.

From the Quran:

"Whoever harms a dhimmi (any non-Muslim) then I will be his opponent on the day of judgement" Prophet Muhammad

stuie, do you really want to start a dialogue on the sayings (and doings) of the prophet muhammad?

cherry picking quotes from the quran to bolster your pov is getting on shaky ground

if you don't think these terrorists have any connection to islam then you live in a strange bubble

[stuie 7,374]

[Biffen 12,323]

I don't get my logic from old Peg-leg not funny,shouty punch line Hills Stuie.

But it is nice to see your half witted influences.

The above is a total lie.

2% of attacks related to Islam?

Try nearly every major world conflict.

Edited November 14, 2015 by Biffen

[Bitter but optimistic 21,238]

Stuie please stick to talking about football - where, sometimes at least, you makes sense.

[stuie 7,374]

I don't get my logic from old Peg-leg not funny,shouty punch line Hills Stuie.

But it is nice to see your half witted influences.

Yeah because you've really aligned yourself with the intellectuals by showing bigotry toward Islam.

Clap clap...

[daisycutter 28,504]

Yeah because you've really aligned yourself with the intellectuals by showing bigotry toward Islam.

Clap clap...

stuie, go and find a dead bear, will ya

[stuie 7,374]

stuie, go and find a dead bear, will ya

About the level I expect from you. You guys are in fine form today.

[Biffen 12,323]

Yeah because you've really aligned yourself with the intellectuals by showing bigotry toward Islam.

Clap clap...

Because it's not 600 AD ,Yes.

[Moneider96 1,045]

I suggest you actually do some kind of reading or show some kind of attempt to understand what you seek to judge.

These terrorists are no more Muslim than any murderer in the Western world is Christian.

From the Quran:

"Whoever harms a dhimmi (any non-Muslim) then I will be his opponent on the day of judgement" Prophet Muhammad

''Whoever harms a dhimmi (any non-Muslim) then I will be his opponent on the day of judgement''

I find it interesting that this intention is expressed so clearly and unambiguously. Maybe we ought to interpret other more violent verses (in the literal sense) in light of this intention. Maybe, this explains why there are a minority of terrorists in the Muslim community - some interpret the Quran literally, whilst others interpret it in accordance with the directions given by verses like this.

To be honest though, I know nothing about the Quran. There might be contradictions in the clear meaning of the text.

Edited November 15, 2015 by Moneider96

[stuie 7,374]

''Whoever harms a dhimmi (any non-Muslim) then I will be his opponent on the day of judgement''

I find it interesting that this intention is expressed so clearly and unambiguously. Maybe we ought to interpret other more violent verses (in the literal sense) in light of this intention. Maybe, this explains why there are a minority of terrorists in the Muslim community - some interpret the Quran literally, whilst others interpret it in accordance with the directions given by verses like this.

To be honest though, I know nothing about the Quran. There might be contradictions in the clear meaning of the text.

It's as fallible as any other religious text, and contradicts itself as much as any other, but my point is the terrorists groups that align themselves as Islamic are not recognized as such at all by the mainstream and reasonable Muslim community. It's just become a convenient tool of Western culture to brand them as "Muslim extremists" when the reality is they are a terrorist organization. Just the same as IRA attacks weren't put under the umbrella of "Catholic extremism" or KKK lynchings haven't been called "Christian extremism".

[Biffen 12,323]

It's as fallible as any other religious text, and contradicts itself as much as any other, but my point is the terrorists groups that align themselves as Islamic are not recognized as such at all by the mainstream and reasonable Muslim community. It's just become a convenient tool of Western culture to brand them as "Muslim extremists" when the reality is they are a terrorist organization. Just the same as IRA attacks weren't put under the umbrella of "Catholic extremism" or KKK lynchings haven't been called "Christian extremism".

As a text ,it is clearly more aggressive,more didactic ,dogmatic and unrefined than the civilising theologies it borrowed from.

A "Dhimmi"is merely a Kaffir defeated in Jihad, for your clarification.

Do you want to continue to defend and respect the words of a Slave trading,child marrying Bedouin?

[stuie 7,374]

As a text ,it is clearly more aggressive,more didactic ,dogmatic and unrefined than the civilising theologies it borrowed from.

A "Dhimmi"is merely a Kaffir defeated in Jihad, for your clarification.

Do you want to continue to defend and respect the words of a Slave trading,child marrying Bedouin?

No it's not. Read the bible lately? Try reading it from a non-Sunday School mentality and then we can chat again.

As someone with a Bachelor Of Theology, I'm pretty happy my opinions are actually thought through, rather than just being the echoes of Hanson and Bolt.

Have a good day.

[Sir Why You Little 34,438]

Hope fully the Mars Colonies will be ready soon for all believers of assorted Cloud Fairies

Anyone who reads and follows Religious Scrips of any kind are totally delusional and only retard the human race

The Quran and The Bible are both badly written and full of complete fairy tales

So are very dangerous

[Biffen 12,323]

No it's not. Read the bible lately? Try reading it from a non-Sunday School mentality and then we can chat again.

As someone with a Bachelor Of Theology, I'm pretty happy my opinions are actually thought through, rather than just being the echoes of Hanson and Bolt.

Have a good day.

FM Drunk and Sideways.

Even Tony Abbott got one of them.

This is an enlightening piece of info.

Another reason not to pay tax.

[beelzebub 22,225]

Just as clarity though.

A Catholic who is radical/extreme is surely a Catholic extremist for he is no other.

A Muslim who is radical/extreme must also by such distinct association be an Islamic extremist.

Not saying either necessarily represents either's mainstream following for again , extremist by definition is one taking it to another level but they are of those respective religious following. Just saying.

[Sir Why You Little 34,438]

Look Up "Saudi Drifting" on youtube

Have a look at a selection of clips & work out how much life is valued over there in the sand....

[Bitter but optimistic 21,238]

No it's not. Read the bible lately? Try reading it from a non-Sunday School mentality and then we can chat again.

As someone with a Bachelor Of Theology, I'm pretty happy my opinions are actually thought through, rather than just being the echoes of Hanson and Bolt.

Have a good day.

Bwaha bwaha haha . Thanks Stu, made my day - for all sorts of reasons.

[Sir Why You Little 34,438]

Bwaha bwaha haha . Thanks Stu, made my day - for all sorts of reasons.

Ned Flanders is actually amongst us

Wow

Explain the Dinasour...

[daisycutter 28,504]

It's as fallible as any other religious text, and contradicts itself as much as any other, but my point is the terrorists groups that align themselves as Islamic are not recognized as such at all by the mainstream and reasonable Muslim community. It's just become a convenient tool of Western culture to brand them as "Muslim extremists" when the reality is they are a terrorist organization. Just the same as IRA attacks weren't put under the umbrella of "Catholic extremism" or KKK lynchings haven't been called "Christian extremism".

they are islamic extremists, stuie. now repeat it 50 times or until you get it.

they didn't yell alluha akbar before they shot or exploded their bombs because they "weren't" followers of islam

fmd stuie you can be thick sometimes

[stuie 7,374]

they are islamic extremists, stuie. now repeat it 50 times or until you get it.

they didn't yell alluha akbar before they shot or exploded their bombs because they "weren't" followers of islam

fmd stuie you can be thick sometimes

If I say I'm a vegetarian and then eat meat, am I actually a vegetarian?

That's as simple as I can make it for you.

[stuie 7,374]

Ned Flanders is actually amongst us

Wow

Explain the Dinasour...

Just so you know WYL, I don't believe in anything religious at all. Studying religion was the thing that turned me away from it in all forms.

Sometimes it's good to actually learn a bit about things you don't subscribe to and seek to demean. I'd highly recommend it to a fair few here.

[Moneider96 1,045]

Hope fully the Mars Colonies will be ready soon for all believers of assorted Cloud Fairies

Anyone who reads and follows Religious Scrips of any kind are totally delusional and only retard the human race

The Quran and The Bible are both badly written and full of complete fairy tales

So are very dangerous

The same old wafer thin rhetoric which dominates dialogue yet avoids substantive discussion.

''retard the human race'':

Did you know that science is a unique contribution of the Christian faith? It is the Christian world which gave birth to the experimental method of science itself because it was only the Christian worldview which viewed the world as a rational place which is open to exploration and discovery.

''Badly written''

I honestly have no time today to go through supposed contradictions. But luckily for me, this guy already has:

https://www.youtube.com/user/InspiringPhilosophy/videos

Anyways, check those videos out if you want to learn something.

[beelzebub 22,225]

If I say I'm a vegetarian and then eat meat, am I actually a vegetarian?

That's as simple as I can make it for you.

Thats like saying Jew bought some Pork to have for Christmas.

Neither is plausible as its fundamentally opposite to the core beliefs held.

A vegetarian who eats meat is simply enlightened

[Sir Why You Little 34,438]

The same old wafer thin rhetoric which dominates dialogue yet avoids substantive discussion.

''retard the human race'':

Did you know that science is a unique contribution of the Christian faith? It is the Christian world which gave birth to the experimental method of science itself because it was only the Christian worldview which viewed the world as a rational place which is open to exploration and discovery.

''Badly written''

I honestly have no time today to go through supposed contradictions. But luckily for me, this guy already has:

https://www.youtube.com/user/InspiringPhilosophy/videos

Anyways, check those videos out if you want to learn something.

A close friend of George Pell are you?

I am allowed to despise all religious teachings

They are man made fairy stories who hold far too much power...