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watching the game on match centre and i cant believe we have only kicked 5 goals till now... geez we are missing our drive from jamar :( there are going to be some real hard times ahead in the coming weeks... not that there hasnt been hard times in the past... gotta feeling its gonna get worse :(

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I watched the first half on TV and it is just embarrassing. We cannot be expected to win with so many good players out, but it is still annoying to see senior players not stand up.

Gonna be a long few weeks of football until we get half the team back in.

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I watched the first half on TV and it is just embarrassing. We cannot be expected to win with so many good players out, but it is still annoying to see senior players not stand up.

Gonna be a long few weeks of football until we get half the team back in.

Why will half the team make a difference?They didn't when they were actually there.

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Why will half the team make a difference?They didn't when they were actually there.

I know things are bad but it is ridiculous to think that having Jamar, Scully, Trengrove, Grimes, Garland, Tapscott and even Bail (who was in best 22 on form) back in the team wouldn't help.

Still, don't know what it is with this club. Perpetual losers.

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I know things are bad but it is ridiculous to think that having Jamar, Scully, Trengrove, Grimes, Garland, Tapscott and even Bail (who was in best 22 on form) back in the team wouldn't help.

Still, don't know what it is with this club. Perpetual losers.

It would.

Take Murphy, Judd and Gibbs out of Carlton, and they are not a top 4 team.

Take Jamar, Scully, Trengove, GRimes, Garland, Tapscott and Bail out of Melbourne and we go from a 7th-10th team, to a bottom 4 team

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Him and Morton should still be in VFL but lack of personelle killed us

As opposed to a full strength side V west coast and hawthorn?

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Stef Martin. Had a red got go. Love him, but he was let down by his team mates. You will not win games, if you have no forward structure.....and we dont........ not by any stretch of the imagination.

[edit] and please don't tell me again about our lack of ability. The real questions is, what does this club believe in? Tonight, from the beginning, we went out to save it, not win it.

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When we wake up tomorrow morning without the emotion, with all the personnel out, that is realistically the best we could of hoped for. They had a dip, but were let down by poor execution.

Although it was very frustrating that nearly every single goal we kicked, they replied within, at most, a minute.

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It would.

Take Murphy, Judd and Gibbs out of Carlton, and they are not a top 4 team.

Take Jamar, Scully, Trengove, GRimes, Garland, Tapscott and Bail out of Melbourne and we go from a 7th-10th team, to a bottom 4 team

Sylvinator, take those few out of todays Carlton team, and there not a top 8 side.

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When we wake up tomorrow morning without the emotion, with all the personnel out, that is realistically the best we could of hoped for. They had a dip, but were let down by poor execution.

Although it was very frustrating that nearly every single goal we kicked, they replied within, at most, a minute.

Agreed. I was mad as earlier, but once the reality set in that we never had a chance, I calmed down. We are without half our best 22, and the boys did have a dig, but were lacking in all departments. But if we are all realistic about it, we were never really a chance.

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Agreed. I was mad as earlier, but once the reality set in that we never had a chance, I calmed down. We are without half our best 22, and the boys did have a dig, but were lacking in all departments. But if we are all realistic about it, we were never really a chance.

So lets take comfort in that and ignore the bleedin' obvious. You will never challenge, when you try and play an entire game off your half back line. Sure, we could not have won tonight with the squad we had in, but I am still yet to see a structure that will win games, even when we do get our, so-called, best players back.

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This is worse than 2008 or even 2009. We should be improving or at least showing signs of improvement.

We've got a game plan that is sh^t and even Tom Harley has said we are the only side in the AFL that play this way, we've got a coach that no one knows if he can coach after nearly 4 years at the helm (IMO is [censored] useless) and we've got players who still manage to miss kick or kick the footy out of bounds on a regular basis. These skills are the most [censored] basic skills in the AFL yet will still cant manage it.

All of us here love the Dees but we have the same conversations every week about how pathetic we are. The thing that really pisses me off apart from the above is that I am sick to death of having to watch this sh^t every week and hear the same excuses from the coaches.

Its time for the MFC to make a stand. Show some BALLs and FFS get rid of the coach and stick Viney in there as an interim measure while looking for a new head coach for next season. Viney will bring passion, hardness and accountablility back to the side. Its better than putting up with this sh^t.

Something needs to happen you can not put in those performances and expect supporters to BLINDLY follow without question. Last time I looked I wasnt a sheep.

Am I on my own here or is this the general feeling of others?

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