Guest Thomo Posted May 8, 2011 Posted May 8, 2011 I know it goes against what most will think after such a great win, but today proved to me that Dean Bailey needs to be sacked. During the week I wrote "I may seem strange, but I will be disappointed if the team can suddenly lay more tackles and play with more passion and desire than last week. For the last few years, Melbourne has struggled because of being a young developing team. If the team can actually come out and lift this weekend because of the pressure put on them since the loss, it shows a real problem at the club in getting motivated to play AFL every week. To me this is much worse, and the coaching staff need to take the blame, and the coach must go." All week some posted stated that the reason for Melbourne’s poor performance this year is because of the size of the younger players and the lack of quality in the senior players. Today proved that this is not the case. Melbourne were too physical and too hungry for the Crows today. When given the right motivation, the players can lift and play with desire by running hard and tackling Dean Bailey has not been able to motivate the playing group, that is why they have preformed so badly. The media spent a week motivating the players and they came out and dominated. If Bailey cannot get the best out of the players each week, find someone that can.
Choko 493 Posted May 8, 2011 Posted May 8, 2011 On 08/05/2011 at 11:44, Thomo said: I know it goes against what most will think after such a great win, but today proved to me that Dean Bailey needs to be sacked. During the week I wrote "I may seem strange, but I will be disappointed if the team can suddenly lay more tackles and play with more passion and desire than last week. For the last few years, Melbourne has struggled because of being a young developing team. If the team can actually come out and lift this weekend because of the pressure put on them since the loss, it shows a real problem at the club in getting motivated to play AFL every week. To me this is much worse, and the coaching staff need to take the blame, and the coach must go." All week some posted stated that the reason for Melbourne’s poor performance this year is because of the size of the younger players and the lack of quality in the senior players. Today proved that this is not the case. Melbourne were too physical and too hungry for the Crows today. When given the right motivation, the players can lift and play with desire by running hard and tackling Dean Bailey has not been able to motivate the playing group, that is why they have preformed so badly. The media spent a week motivating the players and they came out and dominated. If Bailey cannot get the best out of the players each week, find someone that can. That is so misguided it's really a waste of space. Young teams are erratic. We beat the Suns by 90, and they have won as many games as Adelaide. We beat Brisbane and we drew with a good side in Sydney. Like Bailey or not, your contention is simply stupid.
Geddy Lee 582 Posted May 8, 2011 Posted May 8, 2011 On 08/05/2011 at 11:44, Thomo said: I know it goes against what most will think after such a great win, but today proved to me that Dean Bailey needs to be sacked. During the week I wrote "I may seem strange, but I will be disappointed if the team can suddenly lay more tackles and play with more passion and desire than last week. For the last few years, Melbourne has struggled because of being a young developing team. If the team can actually come out and lift this weekend because of the pressure put on them since the loss, it shows a real problem at the club in getting motivated to play AFL every week. To me this is much worse, and the coaching staff need to take the blame, and the coach must go." All week some posted stated that the reason for Melbourne’s poor performance this year is because of the size of the younger players and the lack of quality in the senior players. Today proved that this is not the case. Melbourne were too physical and too hungry for the Crows today. When given the right motivation, the players can lift and play with desire by running hard and tackling Dean Bailey has not been able to motivate the playing group, that is why they have preformed so badly. The media spent a week motivating the players and they came out and dominated. If Bailey cannot get the best out of the players each week, find someone that can. And how would Malthouse eradicate the inconsistency of the younger MFC players Thomo? Particularly in regards to their application and intensity.
Guest Rojik of the Arctic Posted May 8, 2011 Posted May 8, 2011 On 08/05/2011 at 11:44, Thomo said: Dean Bailey has not been able to motivate the playing group, that is why they have preformed so badly. The media spent a week motivating the players and they came out and dominated. If Bailey cannot get the best out of the players each week, find someone that can. Agreed but lets see what happens over the next 6 or so weeks. I'd like to see the best/worst gap narrow (in a good way) before I'm convinced he is the man for us going forward but I'm prepared to see what happens for a month or two.
Wadda We Sing 10,685 Posted May 8, 2011 Posted May 8, 2011 On 08/05/2011 at 11:44, Thomo said: I know it goes against what most will think after such a great win, but today proved to me that Dean Bailey needs to be sacked. During the week I wrote "I may seem strange, but I will be disappointed if the team can suddenly lay more tackles and play with more passion and desire than last week. For the last few years, Melbourne has struggled because of being a young developing team. If the team can actually come out and lift this weekend because of the pressure put on them since the loss, it shows a real problem at the club in getting motivated to play AFL every week. To me this is much worse, and the coaching staff need to take the blame, and the coach must go." All week some posted stated that the reason for Melbourne’s poor performance this year is because of the size of the younger players and the lack of quality in the senior players. Today proved that this is not the case. Melbourne were too physical and too hungry for the Crows today. When given the right motivation, the players can lift and play with desire by running hard and tackling Dean Bailey has not been able to motivate the playing group, that is why they have preformed so badly. The media spent a week motivating the players and they came out and dominated. If Bailey cannot get the best out of the players each week, find someone that can. I guess that is a good point...for me im just still concerned that Bails is not a match day coach..when we get challenged it seems there are no answers....he will be on the line every week and if we play finals he will probably stay as long as we win at least 1 ....otherwise he will go.
dee-luded 2,959 Posted May 8, 2011 Posted May 8, 2011 On 08/05/2011 at 11:44, Thomo said: Dean Bailey has not been able to motivate the playing group, that is why they have preformed so badly. The media spent a week motivating the players and they came out and dominated. If Bailey cannot get the best out of the players each week, find someone that can.
Whispering_Jack 31,381 Posted May 8, 2011 Posted May 8, 2011 I'm looking at the ladder as it stands at the moment and I see there are ten teams below us at the moment. Then there's also GWS which isn't yet in the competition but is fielding a side in the North East Australian Football League which lost badly yesterday to the Sydney Swans seconds. It seems to me that there are going to be a lot of new coaches in the market next year.
Guest Thomo Posted May 8, 2011 Posted May 8, 2011 On 08/05/2011 at 11:55, Geddy Lee said: And how would Malthouse eradicate the inconsistency of the younger MFC players Thomo? Particularly in regards to their application and intensity. The young players like Davey, Moloney, Frawley, Green and Sylvia, that needed a week of media coverage to turn up? They are the ones that lifted today, and they are the ones who were missing last week. Bailey struggles to get the best out of the senior players. He has had that problem for the last four years. The best Melbourne have played in the last few years is against Collingwood, the home and away equivalent of our grand final. Any coincidence that they turned up for those games? Played great football in a couple of other games last year, Sydney and Brisbane, but mainly play with no spark.
Crompton's the man 660 Posted May 8, 2011 Posted May 8, 2011 If this is the conclusion after we played well, what would have been the conclusion had we played badly? ( damned either way ?)
Geddy Lee 582 Posted May 8, 2011 Posted May 8, 2011 On 08/05/2011 at 12:03, Thomo said: The young players like Davey, Moloney, Frawley, Green and Sylvia, that needed a week of media coverage to turn up? They are the ones that lifted today, and they are the ones who were missing last week. I knew you were going to say this, completely missing the point that Frawley was injured all pre-season, and Sylvia and Moloney have been our best this year. How will Malthouse get Davey and Green to rock up every week?
Guest Thomo Posted May 8, 2011 Posted May 8, 2011 On 08/05/2011 at 12:04, Geddy Lee said: How will Malthouse get Davey and Green to rock up every week? Don't know, but you must agree that Bailey certainly can't.
Fork 'em 7,074 Posted May 8, 2011 Posted May 8, 2011 Fair point IMO , though we don't need to sack him , just not renew his contract at the end of year . Having said that , lets see what happens from now till then . The blokes on the field today we're just itching for the contest . Now there might be some real and not imagined contests within the side for positions and hopefully , that will show in games .
rpfc 29,049 Posted May 8, 2011 Posted May 8, 2011 On 08/05/2011 at 11:46, ox_5 said: Lol Perfect response. This thread is why 'lol' was invented. What a strange way of looking at what happened today. Bailey has obviously built a team that can be lethal; the next few months will determine whether they can build consistency and improve in key areas we have been recently shite in.
Fork 'em 7,074 Posted May 8, 2011 Posted May 8, 2011 On 08/05/2011 at 12:13, rpfc said: Bailey has obviously built a team that can be lethal; the next few months will determine whether they can build consistency and improve in key areas we have been recently shite in. He may have built it but it's obvious he has no idea how to motivate it .
Geddy Lee 582 Posted May 8, 2011 Posted May 8, 2011 On 08/05/2011 at 12:18, Fork said: He may have built it but it's obvious he has no idea how to motivate it . Well the media sure do! Let's see how we go next week with 1. more experienced players in the side, 2. a functioning forward press and 3. our captain in the midfield. Looking forward to it.
rpfc 29,049 Posted May 8, 2011 Posted May 8, 2011 On 08/05/2011 at 12:18, Fork said: He may have built it but it's obvious he has no idea how to motivate it . That's what we will see won't we?
Axis of Bob 11,945 Posted May 8, 2011 Posted May 8, 2011 On 08/05/2011 at 11:46, ox_5 said: Lol This thread needs more lol.
P-man 13,367 Posted May 8, 2011 Posted May 8, 2011 Bailey - damned if you do and damned if you don't old son. I recall this post the first time and laughed. The fact you're standing by it is even funnier.
45HG 1,559 Posted May 8, 2011 Posted May 8, 2011 Moloney should go. At least dropped. Only plays well when he plays in the centre.
Jordie_tackles 354 Posted May 8, 2011 Posted May 8, 2011 I dont know if anyone watched the post game today? but Bailey seems motivated... was barely impressed by todays effort mention exactly what you are saying: ie. last week to this week is un-acceptable, "next week we need to produce the same effort, or very close to this effort, and the next week and the next week and the next week and the next week" Bailey isnt stupid, he knows what the next half of the seasons holds for him and the team, i would expect more of the same if i was a MFC player this week I dont think we have read the end of the DB story for some reason
Fork 'em 7,074 Posted May 8, 2011 Posted May 8, 2011 On 08/05/2011 at 12:20, Geddy Lee said: Well the media sure do! Let's see how we go next week with 1. more experienced players in the side, 2. a functioning forward press and 3. our captain in the midfield. Looking forward to it. Spot on with 1 & 2 , swap 3 for Edihad .
Sir Why You Little 37,510 Posted May 8, 2011 Posted May 8, 2011 On 08/05/2011 at 12:33, Jordie_tackles said: I dont know if anyone watched the post game today? but Bailey seems motivated... was barely impressed by todays effort mention exactly what you are saying: ie. last week to this week is un-acceptable, "next week we need to produce the same effort, or very close to this effort, and the next week and the next week and the next week and the next week" Bailey isnt stupid, he knows what the next half of the seasons holds for him and the team, i would expect more of the same if i was a MFC player this week I dont think we have read the end of the DB story for some reason i am with you on this one. If Bails wants to keep his job in 2012 he now will know for sure that todays performance is "the line in the sand" He knows how many coaches are up for a new job next year. It's now that Bails should really start the fight, because today he saw the Absolute potential, that he has created. No mercy to those kangaroos.
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