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I think most people agree that we would could use him, but to lose pick #12 for him..........

Collingwood gave up #17 for Jolly and he is a proven ruckmen

The trades are hardly the same because in the mooted one we would push back 5 places in the first round, not lose a first round pick.

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Is Hill the rebounding defender or is that Harbrow?

Can never remember.

Mr versatility, top quality pace could play back, could play forward can even play wing.

However, very good user of the ball by hand. (thats the important thing here) It all comes down to the right price now.

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Why are so many people so keen on Hale! He is a below average ruckmen and a poor forward.

Plus we look like giving away our first two picks for him as well as pick 17 (NM first pick).

This to me is an awful trade considering the fact he would not do the forward/Ruck role any better than Newton.

Yes Newton is no good, but Hale is as bad. And those saying Hale is a great mark, well Newton is an amzing mark and if he could kick straight would actually be half decent. Plus Fitzpatrick will be the perfect player to play the Forward/Ruck role so lets give him 5-8 games next year and then in a years time he will have already gone past Hale.

I say don't give anything away for someone who would not add to our list now and specially someone who will not be in best 22 in premiership window.

Anyone who can kick 8 goals in an AFL game is infinitely better than Newton

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