Grand Final Draws

[titan_uranus 25,020]

A 3 hour Flight on Business Class won't kill anyone...Cripes the Australian Cricket Team used to sail to England which would take around 6 weeks.

This is 2010. Not 1920. Suggesting that interstate teams should put up or shut up because 90 years ago they would have had no choice is ridiculous.

Perth is 5-7 hours away, not 3. Business class or economy, private jet or public, the issue is still the flying, the improper preparation, and the waste of time.

What i think they might want to consider is showing a live clock....hten EVERYONE knows that time's a running out. Ought to make for some real liveliness.

Couldn't think of anything worse. Ten uses the '5 minute warning' in their games and the suspense is fantastic. Like last year, when the scores were level with less than 5 minutes to go.

Your premise is slightly flawed.. of course every team wants to win... but they ought to from the moment the first whistle of the day is blown.

You do realise you've just said that the teams didn't want to win from the moment the whistle was blown on Saturday?

Of course they bloody well do!

[beelzebub 23,377]

Well. TU.. I made a comment to a Sainters mate whilst watching the game that they didnt have teh same urgency and desperation as the Filth in the opening half.. He agreed...says they always seem to "pace' their games. So not just my view that they < St Kilda might have wanted to win , but werent playing like it

[Sir Why You Little 37,039]

This is 2010. Not 1920. Suggesting that interstate teams should put up or shut up because 90 years ago they would have had no choice is ridiculous.

Perth is 5-7 hours away, not 3. Business class or economy, private jet or public, the issue is still the flying, the improper preparation, and the waste of time.

What is the big deal with Flying?? it is not as if it is done on a daily basis. Fly to melbourne 24-48 hours in advance and play the game.

Do we live in a world of absolute soft [censored] now do we, i mean really that arguement is just weak as water.

I bet my balls it would be far worse to lose in extra time after all that previous excertion, than to reload and come back the following week.

5-7 hours from Perth to melbourne-what airline do you use TU????

Edited September 29, 2010 by why you little

[beelzebub 23,377]

an interstate team would surely just stay for the week unless Sydney.. not a hardship surely

[titan_uranus 25,020]

Well. TU.. I made a comment to a Sainters mate whilst watching the game that they didnt have teh same urgency and desperation as the Filth in the opening half.. He agreed...says they always seem to "pace' their games. So not just my view that they < St Kilda might have wanted to win , but werent playing like it

No, that would be the general trends of both teams. Collingwood are very strong in first quarters, the stats back that up. They are known for piling pressure on right from the start and often jumping to an early lead.

In contrast, St Kilda win a lot more third and fourth quarters than first and second. So they are a team with grit and determination who can fall behind but, by virtue of a strong defensive team, claw back even when they're 3-4 goals down.

To imply from St Kilda's slow start that they didn't want to win is wrong. That is what you did. If that's not what you meant then fine.

What is the big deal with Flying?? it is not as if it is done on a daily basis. Fly to melbourne 24-48 hours in advance and play the game.

Do we live in a world of absolute soft [censored] now do we, i mean really that arguement is just weak as water.

I bet my balls it would be far worse to lose in extra time after all that previous excertion, than to reload and come back the following week.

5-7 hours from Perth to melbourne-what airline do you use TU????

You honestly don't believe there is any disadvantage at all in having to fly from Perth (or Brisbane, or Sydney, or Adelaide) to Melbourne every second week, then having to play most finals in Melbourne, then flying down here for the GF, then having to fly back again the next week? Taking into account not just the physical effects of flying, but also being away from home base, the loss of time, the logistics, the cost?

To be honest I'm not surprised. Logical, reasonable arugments just don't seem to work on you WYL.

[Sir Why You Little 37,039]

You honestly don't believe there is any disadvantage at all in having to fly from Perth (or Brisbane, or Sydney, or Adelaide) to Melbourne every second week, then having to play most finals in Melbourne, then flying down here for the GF, then having to fly back again the next week? Taking into account not just the physical effects of flying, but also being away from home base, the loss of time, the logistics, the cost?

To be honest I'm not surprised. Logical, reasonable arugments just don't seem to work on you WYL.

TU i have done loads of Flying both in Australia and International, and for an interstate Team to Fly to Melbourne by wednesday/Thursday for a Grand Final Replay once i see as a small disadvantage as long as all players are Hydrated and do some stretching when they arrive.

I think the whole domestic Flying disadvantage is way over blown and a very easy crutch for a team to use as an excuse.

Do you think both Wet Coke or Sydney would have been greatly disadvantaged in 2005 or 2006 if either of those GF's had been a draw??

I don't. The Players would have had far more injuries potentially if either game had gone into extra time.

Question?? How many Hammies would have "Pinged" last saturday if the game had gone into extra time?? I am tipping quite a few considering the injury tally that has been reported so far this week...

[Chook 15,013]

And if the idea that it's unfair to have to travel to Victoria two weeks in a row is such a big concern, then why even have the Grand Final at the MCG every year anyway? Isn't that equally unfair? But I don't hear anyone complaining about that "outdated VFL anachronism" as Gerard Healy put it/

[daisycutter 29,616]

Solely because its St. Kilda and Collingwood involved my suggestions for this year only is that we treat it like a halved hole in a game of skins and award next years winner 2 cups.

Now thats good. No Aints, no Filth this year. Vacant Premiership. But only one flag for next year, just in case the Filth get up.

Suppose its too late to cancel tomorrow