No idea how Bennell got votes.

To be honest I probably jumped the gun a bit with my post - I posted it about 7 seconds after the final siren. Should've let the information digest a bit first. Not to worry.

Blah blah blah... Bruce should never be judged by stats, nor should most players, WATCH the game!! This is one of the reasons why people call for Bennell to be dropped every week without realising what he does off the ball.

"Smashed Hodge"???? are you joking? Bruce might have been ok early while being the front runner he likes to be, but at critical stages Hodge more than evened the ledger.

Look, I've loved Bruce's game the last month or so, but he is a SENIOR player not a developing player, today his second efforts were non-existent and his disposal was poor.

You're just plain wrong

6 - Bruce

5 - Sylvia

4 - Rivers

3 - Frawley

2 - Jamar

1 - Bartram

You're just plain wrong

Thrilling post... care to elaborate or is that the extent of your retort

A proud Demon here! The boys showed plenty of fight and a bit of grunt.

6 - Jamar

5 - Frawley

4 - Bail

3 - Rivers

2 - Sylvia

1 - Bruce

Not enough out of our forwards today - Jurrah lively early, Aussie bit quiet, Dunn quiet, Watts quiet.

Edited August 15, 201015 yr by DeezMan

Bruce shanked a few, but surely anyone would have to admit he beat Hodge? Come on!! But IMO today just showed to me that there will still be a lot of change in this side. I could name the usual suspects as players that need to make better use of the ball under pressure, but even Col G shanked one at one stage today.

This game really is sitting badly in the stomach right now, I've a feeling the players would feel exactly the same. I thought the umpires were nothing short of a disgrace, I can't remember one crucial decision going our way, Hawthorn got about 5-6good one's. There is a heap of upside for us and there is no reason why this time next year, we aren't playing a game like today for a spot as high as the top 6.

6 - Sylvia

5 - Rivers

4 - Bail

3 - Frawley

2 - Bruce

1 - Jamar

Edited August 15, 201015 yr by Demon Jack 16

6. Colin Sylvia

5. Cameron Bruce

4. Jordie McKenzie

3. Rohan Bail

2. James Frawley

1. Mark Jamar

6. Rohan Bail

5. Cameron Bruce

4. Colin Sylvia

3. Austin Wonaeamirri

2. Liam Jurrah (Great goal. made it look simple)

1. Mark Jamar

6. Bruce

5. Bail

4. Rivers

3. Sylvia

2. McKenzie

0.5 Jamar

0.5 Frawley

Bartram tried hard - too many howlers!

6. Bruce

5. Sylvia

4. Rivers

3. Bartram

2. Jun Mac

1. Frawley

6. Bruce

5. Rivers

4. Jamar

3. Sylvia

2. Frawley

1. Bail

6. Colin Sylvia

5. Cameron Bruce

4. James Frawley

3. Rohan Bail

2. James McDonald

1. Mark Jamar

Thrilling post... care to elaborate or is that the extent of your retort

Sorry Stuie but you have got it all wrong. Going by the votes for Bruce by a HUGE MAJORITY of posters here it seems you are well and truly in the MINORITY group. Sure you can voice your opinion BUT it shows a lack of understanding of Bruce's role and the game in general. Ever played at a senior level? And I don't mean AFL or VFL.

Bruce was OK on Hodge. His kicking wasn't the issue for me today, but rather his reluctance to put his body in at the contest. Too many times he tried to soccer the ball or stand a step away from a pack, instead of diving in. Pretty disappointing from a vice captain in a must-win game.

Jaded, 9 tackles is hardly not putting his body in. I thought he spent a lot of time on the bottom of packs. Have a look at the replay to see what I mean. BTW, you originally gave Bruce 2 votes and then changed your mind and gave him none. Why? Not influenced by 'Stuie' I hope.

Edited August 15, 201015 yr by bobby mckenzie

Thrilling post... care to elaborate or is that the extent of your retort

Why, are you stupid as well?

Rosebury paid the deliberate rushed behind, McInerney paid the deliberate out of bounds. I can't decide which was worse.

The deliberate out of bounds was worse - a wrong decision (Franklin had more of the ball in rushing it over). The deliberate rushed was wrong IMO (no pressure??) but at least they had the correct player that time.

Very proud of the boys today.

6 Bruce

5 Sylvia

4 Rivers

3 Jamar

2 Bail

1 Frawley

6. Colin Sylvia

5. Mark Jamar

4. James Frawley

3. James McDonald

2. Rohan Bail

1. Joel MacDonald

Rivers, Jordie McK, Bruce & Jones just missed for "1"...( still in my best ).

Why, are you stupid as well?

Soooo... still no actual discussion/explanation then? This is a DISCUSSION board after all, if you want to just reply to people with "You're wrong" etc you might as well go talk about the game in the playground... I'm sorry for not realising we were all meant to think exactly the same on this board of opinions...

But seeing you asked... (well you didn't but thought I'd elaborate for you), I think Bruce had an ok game, but in MY OPINION he shouldn't be in the votes DESPITE what the stats may say. I expected a lot more from him today in the type of game it was, but I THOUGHT he was one of a few that disappeared when he was needed but played well when brought into the game by others.

Now, please understand all you Adolf's on here, that this is not gospel, it's not definitive, but it is MY OPINION, which right or wrong in your minds, I am entitled to express seeing that is the spirit of an open discussion board such as this.

Soooo... still no actual discussion/explanation then? This is a DISCUSSION board after all, if you want to just reply to people with "You're wrong" etc you might as well go talk about the game in the playground... I'm sorry for not realising we were all meant to think exactly the same on this board of opinions...

But seeing you asked... (well you didn't but thought I'd elaborate for you), I think Bruce had an ok game, but in MY OPINION he shouldn't be in the votes DESPITE what the stats may say. I expected a lot more from him today in the type of game it was, but I THOUGHT he was one of a few that disappeared when he was needed but played well when brought into the game by others.

Now, please understand all you Adolf's on here, that this is not gospel, it's not definitive, but it is MY OPINION, which right or wrong in your minds, I am entitled to express seeing that is the spirit of an open discussion board such as this.

Your post doesn't deserve discussion ...

6. Bruce

5. Sylvia

4. Bail

3. Frawley

2. McKenzie

1. Wonaeamirri

Bruce was 100% in our best 6. His defensive work on Hodge was great (Hodge only had about 18 possessions), his run off half back and through the middle was crucial and he was running right up until the final siren. Yes, some of his kicks were pretty poor but overall he was definitely one of our best.

Bennell was one of our worst IMO. Just doesn't do enough, and I don't know if he's a forward or a defender now.

Your post doesn't deserve discussion ...

and another fine well thought out post, sheesh why bother?

Bruce was 100% in our best 6. His defensive work on Hodge was great (Hodge only had about 18 possessions), his run off half back and through the middle was crucial and he was running right up until the final siren. Yes, some of his kicks were pretty poor but overall he was definitely one of our best.

Bennell was one of our worst IMO. Just doesn't do enough, and I don't know if he's a forward or a defender now.

He just doesn't get involved often enough does he? I really like Jimmy and he starts games with an impact and then is not seen. I'd leave him and give him a go at playing Davey's role for the last two games.

I agree that he is a bit lost at being a defensive player, either as a forward or a backman.