Question - Did Sylvia collide with Brad Ebert? AFL Website is reporting Ebert being knocked out as the only casualty.

Bloody hopeless, that Bigpond-run site.

Edit: just saw it was Kennedy. Same article from "The Age" at least mentions that SYYLVIA broke his jaw, continuing Melbourne's injury woes, considering we've already lost CALLUM Morton.

This morning 'The Age' reported that Sylvia broke his jaw in an 'off the ball bump' by West Coast's Josh Kennedy in the first quarter.

Wasn't Sylvia suspended for 3 weeks last year for making contact with a West Coast player at the'G'?

Is Sylvia's incident yesterday also related to the blow-up between the two sides at the end of the second quarter?

The blow up in the second qtr was a tackle bump on Strauss right at the siren.... It was just then a few player throwing their weight around...

How many weeks will Kennedy get.... There is no way he can say contact wasn't with the head and the impact wasn't severe

I think i will go back to bed and wait for some good news to pop up.

Sylvia has broken his jaw. Source : C Schwab after the game. At least 3-4 weeks, longer if both sides broken.

His jaw will be longer if both sides broken?

His jaw will be longer if both sides broken?

No, sorry - his absence will be longer if there are fractures on both sides of the jaw bone.

I thought the tackle bump was against Bail

I was there but I didn't see the incident. Someone said Kennedy could get reported for it, but something tells me there'll be no evidence.

I actually cannot believe our luck with these injuries. Not to demean Jurrah and Morton, but Sylvia is the biggest loss. A chunk of class, strength and skill just got ripped out of our midfield.

Sylvia was interviewed on Channel 7 news. He seemed quite good for someone who just had his jaw operated on and according to Channel 7 he'll miss a "few games".

Nice and vague right there.

At least it's not the sort of disastrous injury that sees him missing half a season and plenty of muscle mass and fitness as a result.

I was there but I didn't see the incident. Someone said Kennedy could get reported for it, but something tells me there'll be no evidence.

I actually cannot believe our luck with these injuries. Not to demean Jurrah and Morton, but Sylvia is the biggest loss. A chunk of class, strength and skill just got ripped out of our midfield.

The Dees had a camera on a crane platform recording all of the zones etc. I'm sure they have footage if they want it.

Sylvia actually said on 7 news that he would be back on the 'park' in 2 weeks...not sure what he meant by that, but it's very encouraging...

Sylvia actually said on 7 news that he would be back on the 'park' in 2 weeks...not sure what he meant by that, but it's very encouraging...

That could mean some good news..relatively of course.

We need col for round 2 if possible. He stood up to the filth last year.

The Dees had a camera on a crane platform recording all of the zones etc. I'm sure they have footage if they want it.

Apparently the incident was shown on TV. Sylvia was unaware of it coming and was not in the play. As it was head high and severe and not in the play and the player was severely injured Kennedy will get several weeks IMO.

It is the very type of incident the AFL has cracked down on.

CC on SEN this morning said that he should be back for R3. Which all in all isnt too bad really.

Also mentioned that the AFL will be interested in the tapes, as it was head high contact.

Apparently the incident was shown on TV. Sylvia was unaware of it coming and was not in the play. As it was head high and severe and not in the play and the player was severely injured Kennedy will get several weeks IMO.

It is the very type of incident the AFL has cracked down on.

Chris connolly raised the issue this morning on SEN. His last words were 'I'm sure the incident will be investigated by the AFL'.

Chris is actually saying 'AFL..please investigate this incident'. Good.

An investigation is needed. It may just be a coincidence that Sylvia was also suspended for 3 weeks from the Dees v wiggles match at the 'G'last year.

I think i will go back to bed and wait for some good news to pop up.

Here from you in 2015....long time in bed mate.We will have some good news on the 27th March 2010...believe me.

We will regroup and the leaders will be on song.

Generally speaking, you cannot blame "external circumstances" on collision injuries, except in the case of Sylvia, who in my view was unfairly taken out. Hopefully the match review panel see it this way as well.

However, it seems to me, that "unsuccessful" clubs - that is, in terms of on field results - always seem to get more than their fair share of serious injuries. It is like a downward spiral, where the more your on field performances wane, the more unlucky you seem to become with injury. Of course this can be put down to young bodies not being able to adjust to the speed and physicality of the game at the highest level and inexperience also contributes.

But I still wonder, if confidence is low, does natural footy instinct diminish as a result? Do naturally gifted players begin to doubt themselves and therefore 2nd guess what they would otherwise do as a matter of instinct? With confidence at a low ebb, do players lose their sense of what is around them and lack confidence in teammates, so that a player in possession does not take the first option? Where a playing group does not have a winning mentality, do they forget how to make space and where they should run to? Does the team plan simply go out the window? If this has some credibility, then does such a "curse" become contagious within the entire playing group. If this does have any substance, then I wonder how it has come about, and what is being done about it.

I am not presenting these scenarios as a matter of fact, I simply pose them as questions to ponder,

Heard from a source "close to the club" that the FD is seething over this and believes Kennedy should go. That only confirms what you can read between the lines from CC, I guess, but it's something.

Generally speaking, you cannot blame "external circumstances" on collision injuries, except in the case of Sylvia, who in my view was unfairly taken out. Hopefully the match review panel see it this way as well.

However, it seems to me, that "unsuccessful" clubs - that is, in terms of on field results - always seem to get more than their fair share of serious injuries. It is like a downward spiral, where the more your on field performances wane, the more unlucky you seem to become with injury. Of course this can be put down to young bodies not being able to adjust to the speed and physicality of the game at the highest level and inexperience also contributes.

But I still wonder, if confidence is low, does natural footy instinct diminish as a result? Do naturally gifted players begin to doubt themselves and therefore 2nd guess what they would otherwise do as a matter of instinct? With confidence at a low ebb, do players lose their sense of what is around them and lack confidence in teammates, so that a player in possession does not take the first option? Where a playing group does not have a winning mentality, do they forget how to make space and where they should run to? Does the team plan simply go out the window? If this has some credibility, then does such a "curse" become contagious within the entire playing group. If this does have any substance, then I wonder how it has come about, and what is being done about it.

I am not presenting these scenarios as a matter of fact, I simply pose them as questions to ponder,

ST Kilda had a horror stretch a few years back with soft tissue injuries. They then hired the Swans guy responsible for managing them (the Swans are ATM selling their monitoring system to Man United).

Collision injuries are unfortunate. Jurrah, Bell, Morton were unlucky. Sylvia was sniped. Wona was his good hammy (and maybe is not cut out for footy).

But I still wonder, if confidence is low, does natural footy instinct diminish as a result? Do naturally gifted players begin to doubt themselves and therefore 2nd guess what they would otherwise do as a matter of instinct? With confidence at a low ebb, do players lose their sense of what is around them and lack confidence in teammates, so that a player in possession does not take the first option? Where a playing group does not have a winning mentality, do they forget how to make space and where they should run to? Does the team plan simply go out the window? If this has some credibility, then does such a "curse" become contagious within the entire playing group. If this does have any substance, then I wonder how it has come about, and what is being done about it.

Whilst i don't agree that losing leads to more injuries confidence is a strange thing and without it I'm sure players second guess themselves and plans fall away. One of the hardest jobs for bailey is to keep the players 'mentality' positive. if we start to doubt ourselves we're in strife. Losing Jurrah, Morton and Sylvia only makes this job harder.

Whilst i don't agree that losing leads to more injuries confidence is a strange thing and without it I'm sure players second guess themselves and plans fall away. One of the hardest jobs for bailey is to keep the players 'mentality' positive. if we start to doubt ourselves we're in strife. Losing Jurrah, Morton and Sylvia only makes this job harder.

Reading the articles written by Martin Flanagan last year leads me to believe this won't be a major problem.

Reading the articles written by Martin Flanagan last year leads me to believe this won't be a major problem.

How so??

However, it seems to me, that "unsuccessful" clubs - that is, in terms of on field results - always seem to get more than their fair share of serious injuries. It is like a downward spiral, where the more your on field performances wane, the more unlucky you seem to become with injury. Of course this can be put down to young bodies not being able to adjust to the speed and physicality of the game at the highest level and inexperience also contributes.

A chicken and egg situation....

I think its more that clubs that get more than their fair share of injuries wont be successful on the field. How many times have we seen clubs who have successful seasons have few if any injuries (eg Sydney 2005).

The young bodies is definitely a consideration as is the ability to handle the physical pressure in a game.

How so??

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/demon-of-a-time-20091124-j5xt.html

I NEVER go into the Demons' room before a match and not think they're going to win.

I am not without experience in these matters, having twice been in team rooms before grand finals. I also spent a year with the Dogs when they were stuttering along, having started the year seeing themselves as a premiership contender. No, Melbourne's rooms are unfailingly buoyant. Morale is good. Then they go out and lose.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/demon-of-a-time-20091124-j5xt.html

really good to read that article again.

Kennedy not cited

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/demons-want-action-on-colin-sylvia-bump/story-e6frf9io-1225840959580

guess the camera was not sighted also

Had been grinter not kennedy it would have been 8 weeks

how could he be actively involved in play if he was metres of the ball?