Geelong drug scandal

[Spirit of the Demon 209]

Reported on SEN. A current Geelong premiership player to be charged in connection with a major drug case.

[beelzebub 22,225]

Reported on SEN. A current Geelong premiership player to be charged in connection with a major drug case.

Geelong forward questioned

[Jerry Lundergard 382]

Matty Stokes you are a naughty boy!

[Still Waiting 94]

If Proved, what a loser! Had a future in life ,now, ??????????????

[Sir Why You Little 34,463]

why would he do it?? Must be Debt related or else he is a complete loser.

incredible!!!!

[Carn dees 108]

why would he do it?? Must be Debt related or else he is a complete loser.

incredible!!!!

I was a big fan of stokesy, this is terrible to hear.

Quote from Herald Sun:-

"The court heard Stokes purchased one gram of cocaine from a Geelong nightclub worker last month to give to friends from the Northern Territory.

The court heard he told police he had never consumed the drugs."

His future gone over one gram of cocaine for some silly friends...

[Brayshaws' Helmet 143]

who cares, he couldn't get a game anyway.

gives geelong a good out to get rid of him

[JACKATTACK 17]

"Nah man I promise it aint mine, I was just holding it for some friends"

The stupidity of footballers never ceases to amaze me.

Is it possible to prove a person has used it? I have heard of tests that might be able to prove he hasn't used for a certain amount of tiem.

And while 1g is a considerable amount for a single person, I don't think it is really "trafficking quantity" (although the law probably disagrees).

Edited February 3, 2010 by JACKATTACK

[Steamin Demon 370]

It will be very interesting to see how the AFL & Geelong handle this. Ben Cousins got deregistered for bringing the game into disrepute for charges that were eventually dropped, So I think Matty Stokes can expect that as the minimum. I for one am glad to see this come out. The AFL for far to long has had its big Vlad like head in the sand, Its might now be serious about the problem of drugs in the AFL and not just show it lip service respect. Dale Lewis must feel vindicated.

[Sir Why You Little 34,463]

Yes as far as the AFL are concerned i always thought the 3 strike policy was a joke.

This will come back to bite them hard. Of course he is going to say it wasn't for him and he has never tried it.

Shame though because i actually liked stokes, but he has "Blown" it all away now as an AFL player i would guess

He is on good coin so why did he do it??

[e25 5]

haha what a load of crap.

Do you all honestly think he has not done it before? 1 g of cocain is quite a lot btw.

User for sure.

You're completely wrong. It is sold in multiples of 1 gram, but 1 gram is an absolute minimum.

Edited February 3, 2010 by Enforcer25

[e25 5]

This is going to sound ridiculous, but I actually happen to know the "ringleader" involved in this operation through my completely-unrelated line of work. I always knew the guy was into something unsavoury, but also knew better than to ask.

Obviously this guy is locked up now, but according to one of his associates who I've seen just a short while ago, Stokes is telling the truth.

Doesn't touch it, but knows the right guys to ask around town and was getting some to help some mates out.

So the story I've been told goes...

Still an incredibly stupid thing to do.

[Sir Why You Little 34,463]

This is going to sound ridiculous, but I actually happen to know the "ringleader" involved in this operation through my completely-unrelated line of work. I always knew the guy was into something unsavoury, but also knew better than to ask.

Obviously this guy is locked up now, but according to one of his associates who I've seen just a short while ago, Stokes is telling the truth.

Doesn't touch it, but knows the right guys to ask around town and was getting some to help some mates out.

So the story I've been told goes...

Still an incredibly stupid thing to do.

If Stokes knew these Guys well then he should have known better than to go anywhere near them.

"Ignorance is no excuse" first Law of Law.

Silly Boy Silly Boy.

[e25 5]

If Stokes knew these Guys well then he should have known better than to go anywhere near them.

"Ignorance is no excuse" first Law of Law.

Silly Boy Silly Boy.

Yeah, you're 100% right.

I just feel for the guy when I think of the highly illegal things I myself have done in the past to help out a mate.

They've not hurt anyone, but if I got caught... it doesn't bear to think about.

[Sir Why You Little 34,463]

Yeah, you're 100% right.

I just feel for the guy when I think of the highly illegal things I myself have done in the past to help out a mate.

They've not hurt anyone, but if I got caught... it doesn't bear to think about.

You are absolutely right, i have done amazingly crazy stuff over the years.

so i am not standing on the moral high ground

But i was never a fully professional AFL premiership player either, when you sign on that line you gotta play the game.

[Cards13 9,117]

1 gram.... arrested for 1 gram....ridiculous. People at dance parties get drug intervention programs for having slightly more than that. Grand standing by the police at it's finest.

[AndrewD 0]

Is it possible to prove a person has used it? I have heard of tests that might be able to prove he hasn't used for a certain amount of tiem.

And while 1g is a considerable amount for a single person, I don't think it is really "trafficking quantity" (although the law probably disagrees).

Hair follicle testing allows you to trace any drugs which have been ingested in the past 90 days. That's why there was a lot of fuss when Ben Cousins shaved his hair supposedly so that he couldn't provide a valid sample. Stokes, on the other hand, has a full head of hair and a horrendous mo. Easy to test him.

[Keyser Söze 0]

1 gram.... arrested for 1 gram....ridiculous. People at dance parties get drug intervention programs for having slightly more than that. Grand standing by the police at it's finest.

I hear ya.

Much more widespread than some would like to believe.

[Ryan Dee 140]

You're completely wrong. It is sold in multiples of 1 gram, but 1 gram is an absolute minimum.

Umm no you can buy a point of coke like .1 of a gram around $50

A gram in Australia is worth about $500.

A few points would easily get you off a chops unless your an addict so it is quite a lot.

[Rhino Richards 1,467]

Footballer doing utterly stupid act and breaks law! How novel!! What a dumbass situation to put yourself in.

Stokes has been charged with a criminal act. Like with Lovett, I cant see the AFL acting on this until the Court determines his fate. If they do they will get the Club to act. Geelong will suspend him indefinitely until the Court Case is decided. If found guilty Geelong would be within their contractual rights to potentially terminate the contract and the AFL will not register him. He will be doing loads of durg testing too. His situation is completely different to Cousins.

Another Storm in a teacup. Paper filler for the off season.

[Steamin Demon 370]

Footballer doing utterly stupid act and breaks law! How novel!! What a dumbass situation to put yourself in.

Stokes has been charged with a criminal act. Like with Lovett, I cant see the AFL acting on this until the Court determines his fate. If they do they will get the Club to act. Geelong will suspend him indefinitely until the Court Case is decided. If found guilty Geelong would be within their contractual rights to potentially terminate the contract and the AFL will not register him. He will be doing loads of durg testing too. His situation is completely different to Cousins.

Another Storm in a teacup. Paper filler for the off season.

How is this different to Ben Cousins ?

[Rhino Richards 1,467]

How is this different to Ben Cousins ?

Stokes is on a criminal charge of trafficking and possession not consumption of drugs.

While Cousins was not specfically charged with drug offences, Cousins conduct over a number of years (including booze bus jumping) it was obvious that Cousins was impacted by drugs (which he has later admitted). Cousins conduct,contacts and behaviour was well known in the West and was malignanlty tolerated by WCE (and the AFL) His behaviour was rightly determined to be bringing the game into disrepute. Cousins was a person spiralling out of control. As a game icon at the time and club captain, Cousins was bringing repeated damage to the profile of the game. Stokes at this point is just terribly stupid individual who has been pinged by the law. The AFL/GFC will not move ahead of the Courts on punishment for risk prejudicing the trial or causing undue dispute with the AFLPA all of which will end in the media.

I think Stokes is finished if found guilty and there will be PR mileage for the AFL to redeem him. At 25 and not a regular in a Club like Geelong with salary cap pressures, he may be on the outer.

[beelzebub 22,225]

I would have thought that given his (stokes) admissions and the course of events to date that the AFL was well within its ( a it sees it) rights to level a charge of bringing the game into disrepute against Stokes even now. The Criminal aspect is a parallel aspect to this and not one of the AFLs domain. Theres no reason for the AFL wait. Any action by the AFL is hardly likely to prejudice any judicial procedings.

[jayceebee31 669]

This is going to sound ridiculous, but I actually happen to know the "ringleader" involved in this operation through my completely-unrelated line of work. I always knew the guy was into something unsavoury, but also knew better than to ask.

Obviously this guy is locked up now, but according to one of his associates who I've seen just a short while ago, Stokes is telling the truth.

Doesn't touch it, but knows the right guys to ask around town and was getting some to help some mates out.

So the story I've been told goes...

Still an incredibly stupid thing to do.

Are you saying you knew about this -before Stokes was charged? re your statement,---but according to one of his associates who I've seen just a short while ago, Stokes is telling the truth.

You really have some network !

Edited February 3, 2010 by jayceebee31

[Rhino Richards 1,467]

I would have thought that given his (stokes) admissions and the course of events to date that the AFL was well within its ( a it sees it) rights to level a charge of bringing the game into disrepute against Stokes even now. The Criminal aspect is a parallel aspect to this and not one of the AFLs domain. Theres no reason for the AFL wait. Any action by the AFL is hardly likely to prejudice any judicial procedings.

Its not about the AFL rights.

Its the media exposure of the AFL doing such a thing and its ability to impact the conduct of the trial.

Given the AFL is a media driven machine, why would it bring further attention to the matter and be alleged to have undermined the Court system and abused the players right to a fair trial (AFLPA).

The AFL are smarter than that.