Jump to content

Where we went wrong

Bruce Almighty

By Bruce Almighty
in Melbourne Demons

 Share

Recommended Posts

Jerry Lundergard Redleg

Jerry Lundergard   420

Posted
Posted

It's interesting that last time there were three players that stood above the rest in a draft was 2001. Everyone thought that the Hawks had got it wrong for a few years because Hodge took some time, while Judd was a superstar straight away, and the Saints when Ball started playing were on the verge of a premiership.

Hopefully our recruiting team can't get it wrong here, and all three players will eventually become great players in winning teams.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
deanox Trident

deanox   9,722

Posted
Posted

the problem now isnt the kids. its the lack of leadership and quality older players on the list. go and read about 'draft penalities' so you can see why we couldnt draft them in 99 and 00 and see why we are lacking players in the 26-29 year age bracket.

Link to comment
Share on other sites


warren dean Mighty Demon

warren dean   193

Posted
Posted
Brad Green was pick 18 I'm pretty sure.

We lost our first round pick due to salary cap breaches. We got pick 19 from Frenmantle in exchange for Troy Longmuir. We used 19 on Green, 20 on Wheatley, 50 on Whelan and 64 on Bruce.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

deanox Trident

deanox   9,722

Posted
Posted
... its the lack of leadership and quality older players on the list...

Green, Wheatley, Whelan and Bruce all came from the 99 draft Deanox

green had a great year, but there is a reason he was left out of the leadership group this year. after a great start to his career he has treadwater imo and never reached star status. good honest footballer, with a good kick (most years) who can be courageous, especially with the flight of the ball. never has much real influence on matches. and if you disagree, only bother replying if you can give me examples of when he has influenced the result.

wheelan - spends more time in the doctors office than on the park. has managed 140 games in 9 seasons at the club. 2008 was the first year he has averaged more than 15 disposals. yeah he is a hard nut tough defender. but thats it, he is a small defender. does create some play, but does not win matches.

wheatly - tough? no. injury prone? yes. long kick? yes. beat his man? no. yes he is useful player, but that is all. no star.

bruce - the best of the lot over his career but stlill never good enough to attain star status. his disposal has let him down greatly. still question marks. plus we got him at pick 64.

remember we took shannon obrien (63) and michael j clark (42) before either wheelan (50) or bruce (64). and traded pick 35 for powell.

do you really think we got leadership out of that draft?

Link to comment
Share on other sites
warren dean Mighty Demon

warren dean   193

Posted
Posted

I don't know about leadership, but I'm pretty happy with Whelan at 50 and Bruce at 64. They have given excellent value for their relative draft positions. I was never a huge fan of CAC but he got those two pretty right.

Deanox, your call on Wheatley is right - he is a useful player. Re Green - in 07 when we beat Adelaide at the G I thought he more than anyone else influenced the result of that game. Again, he is a good player without reaching the heights of superstardom. Is he a leader? Probably not.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Yze_Magic Redleg

Yze_Magic   3

Posted
Posted
green had a great year, but there is a reason he was left out of the leadership group this year. after a great start to his career he has treadwater imo and never reached star status.

Well, he is twice the play that Bruce is.

Can kick for starters.

And puts his body on the line.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

deanox Trident

deanox   9,722

Posted
Posted

i think we did quite well in that draft, considering what we had to work with (ie late picks), but that is precisely why we are struggling now. if we had picks in the top few we could have a pavlich or a darren glass. granted the top of the draft isn't as good as others ie 04, but we got good honest players, but didnt snare a package. we didnt get an elite, and we didnt get a leader. RE greens leadership, one swallow doesnt make a summer. he has been average of late.

and regarding the win against adelaide, didnt green make a comment about us playing finals in 2007 either just before or just after that game? at least he was trying to talk positive. but it is genuinely hard to name games where green has stood up and influenced a result.

out of interest i think the 99 draft is a great draft to show how good CAC could be. he had rubbish picks to work with, in an average drafting year, and picked out a large group of players who have had successful afl careers. unfortunately he wasnt able to select/we weren't able to develop, any stars.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Mono Redleg

Mono   455

Posted
Posted
i think we did quite well in that draft, considering what we had to work with (ie late picks), but that is precisely why we are struggling now. if we had picks in the top few we could have a pavlich or a darren glass. granted the top of the draft isn't as good as others ie 04, but we got good honest players, but didnt snare a package. we didnt get an elite, and we didnt get a leader. RE greens leadership, one swallow doesnt make a summer. he has been average of late.

and regarding the win against adelaide, didnt green make a comment about us playing finals in 2007 either just before or just after that game? at least he was trying to talk positive. but it is genuinely hard to name games where green has stood up and influenced a result.

out of interest i think the 99 draft is a great draft to show how good CAC could be. he had rubbish picks to work with, in an average drafting year, and picked out a large group of players who have had successful afl careers. unfortunately he wasnt able to select/we weren't able to develop, any stars.

Pavlich, JBrown (F/S) and Joel Corey would be the only dead set stars from the 99 draft. Great picking by MFC on this occasion.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Red and Blue Flame Redleg

Red and Blue Flame   150

Posted
Posted

joel corey is overrated

doesnt get attention due to ablett, bartel, selwood, chapman..and then theres enright and rooke too

showed in finals series, wasn;t good in the big games

not saying he's [censored]..but if he was in our side he'd be ordinary

Link to comment
Share on other sites

drdrake Redleg

drdrake   3,126

Posted
Posted

The failure of CAC and ND to draft good key position players. Since 2000 the best KPP that we drafted have been Rivers followed by Miller. Garland and Bate are coming on but are more the undersize key forward/Defender. Dunn drafted as a key forward is now a tagger. Even 2007 draft only Martin in the Preseason draft can be considered a true KPP. That is why 2008 two of of first three picks will be talls 192cm+ and more than likely our 4th pick as well. Our rookies will retain Spencer and we will add 3 potential KPP.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

H_T Legend

H_T   3,032

Posted
Posted
The failure of CAC and ND to draft good key position players. Since 2000 the best KPP that we drafted have been Rivers followed by Miller. Garland and Bate are coming on but are more the undersize key forward/Defender. Dunn drafted as a key forward is now a tagger. Even 2007 draft only Martin in the Preseason draft can be considered a true KPP. That is why 2008 two of of first three picks will be talls 192cm+ and more than likely our 4th pick as well. Our rookies will retain Spencer and we will add 3 potential KPP.

And yet ND spruiked for years about reconstructing the "spine"...

Link to comment
Share on other sites
H_T Legend

H_T   3,032

Posted
Posted
ND was our worst nightmare!!

he ruined us completely and so did his little mate craig cameron!!

speaking of which why the F&%K did we sign meesen for three years??

Settle.

ND wasn't there then. But CAC was, god love him. He signed Meesen before he waved goodbye.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Unfortunately, your content contains terms that we do not allow. Please edit your content to remove the highlighted words below.
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

×
 Share
Go to topic listing

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.

  • Demonland Forums  

  • Match Previews, Reports & Articles  

    EASYBEATS by Meggs

    A beautiful sunny Friday afternoon, with a light breeze and a strong Windy Hill crowd set the scene, inviting one team to seize the day and take the important four points on offer. For the Demons it was not a good Friday, easily beaten by an all-time largest losing margin of 65 points.   Essendon threw themselves into action today, winning most of the contests and had three early goals with Daria Bannister on fire.  In contrast the Demons were dropping marks, hesitant in close and comm

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    AFLW Melbourne Demons 9

    DEFUSE THE BOMBERS by Meggs

    Last Saturday’s crushing loss to Fremantle, after being three goals ahead at three quarter time, should be motivation enough to bounce back for this very winnable Round 5 clash at Windy Hill. A first-time venue for the Melbourne AFLW team, this should be a familiar suburban, windy, footy environment for the players.   Essendon were brave and competitive last week against ladder leader Adelaide at Sturt’s home ground. A familiar name, Maddison Gay, was the Bombers best player with

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    AFLW Melbourne Demons 33

    BLOW THE SIREN by Meggs

    Fremantle hosted the Demons on a sunny 20-degree Saturdayafternoon winning the toss and electing to defend in the first quarter against the 3-goal breeze favouring the Parry Street end. There was method here, as this would give the comeback queens, the Dockers, last use of the breeze. The Melbourne Coach had promised an improved performance, and we did start better than previous weeks, winning the ball out of the middle, using the breeze advantage and connecting to the forwards. 

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    AFLW Melbourne Demons

    GETAWAY by Meggs

    Calling all fit players. Expect every available Melbourne player to board the Virgin cross-continent flight to Perth for this Round 4 clash on Saturday afternoon at Fremantle Oval. It promises to be keenly contested, though Fremantle is the bookies clear favourite.  If we lose, finals could be remoter than Rottnest Island especially following on from the Dees 50-point dismantlement by North Melbourne last Sunday.  There are 8 remaining matches, over the next 7 weeks.  To Meggs’

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    AFLW Melbourne Demons

    DRUBBING by Meggs

    With Casey Fields basking in sunshine, an enthusiastic throng of young Demons fans formed a guard of honour for the evergreen and much admired 75-gamer Paxy Paxman. As the home team ran out to play, Paxy’s banner promised that the Demons would bounce back from last week’s loss to Brisbane and reign supreme.   Disappointingly, the Kangaroos dominated the match to win by 50 points, but our Paxy certainly did her bit.  She was clearly our best player, sweeping well in defence.

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    AFLW Melbourne Demons 4

    GARNER STRENGTH by Meggs

    In keeping with our tough draw theme, Week 3 sees Melbourne take on flag favourites, North Melbourne, at Casey Fields this Sunday at 1:05pm.  The weather forecast looks dry, a coolish 14 degrees and will be characteristically gusty.  Remember when Casey Fields was considered our fortress?  The Demons have lost two of their past three matches at the Field of Dreams, so opposition teams commute down the Princes Highway with more optimism these days.  The Dees held the highe

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    AFLW Melbourne Demons 1

    ALLY’S FIELDS by Meggs

    It was a sunny morning at Casey Fields, as Demon supporters young and old formed a guard of honour for fan favourite and 50-gamer Alyssa Bannan.  Banno’s banner stated the speedster was the ‘fastest 50 games’ by an AFLW player ever.   For Dees supporters, today was not our day and unfortunately not for Banno either. A couple of opportunities emerged for our number 6 but alas there was no sizzle.   Brisbane atoned for last week’s record loss to North Melbourne, comprehensively out

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    AFLW Melbourne Demons 1

    GOOD MORNING by Meggs

    If you are driving or training it to Cranbourne on Saturday, don’t forget to set your alarm clock. The Melbourne Demons play the reigning premiers Brisbane Lions at Casey Fields this Saturday, with the bounce of the ball at 11:05am.  Yes, that’s AM.   The AFLW fixture shows deference to the AFL men’s finals games.  So, for the men it’s good afternoon and good evening and for the women it’s good morning.     The Lions were wounded last week by 44 points, their highest ever los

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    AFLW Melbourne Demons 3

    HORE ON FIRE by Meggs

    The 40,000 seat $319 million redeveloped Kardinia Park Stadium was nowhere near capacity last night but the strong, noisy contingent of Melbourne supporters led by the DeeArmy journeyed to Geelong to witness a high-quality battle between two of the best teams in AFLW.   The Cats entered the arena to the blasting sounds of Zombie Nation and made a hot start kicking the first 2 goals. They brought tremendous forward half pressure, and our newly renovated defensive unit looked shaky.

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    AFLW Melbourne Demons 11

  • Tell a friend

    Love Demonland? Tell a friend!
×
×
  • Create New...