Ted Lasso

I believe he is capable of giving a Brownlow a shake in a top 8 team, let's hope we get back up there ASAP so Nate is seen as being as good as he actually is by the rest of the comp

Can PJ and co lobby some sort of appeal if we don't get one? half way through this year we were facing a ten year turnaround and the next Fitzroy, what all of a sudden makes us not in need of something? we have won 1 more game since that point and even that win wasn't in convincing fashion.

Reckon you'd bundle that and our second round pick so 19 and 21 and offer it to Essendon or Adelaide and see how bad they want draft picks? might snag a couple of decent players or go to the draft and look for hard working mids.

I think it's a misunderstanding of culture that causes those issues, we don't stand for much as a club, Roosy will be keen to establish a hard running, team first culture, Heath Shaw and Dusty to me don't fit the team first thing, having grunt and abit of mongrel is great, infact it's exactly what we want right now, but that needs to be within the team first mantra.

Both good players, my concern is the effect they would have on the culture we're trying to build, Heath Shaw is on the outer at Collingwood because he has screaming matches with Collingwoods captain on field, and Dustin Martin is considering leaving a club that's well on the rise to chase extra dollars even though they have provided him huge off field support. would much rather just get Swallow or Sloane and then draft Zak jones who could play the same role of heath Shaw off half back or be a clone of Nathan jones in the middle. Culture first, team first, success will follow.

Our Captain in 2014, we should really look at cloning him, or just drafting his brother.

Gold coast offer us David Swallow for pick 2 tomorrow and i'll say yes without a second thought, only one reason I wouldn't do that trade is if Rory Sloane is on the table and even then i'd seriously consider it, kid hasn't shown a lot yet but he has upper A grade potential, and he would already be in our top 3-4 players. Trenners will be fine, Roos will give him a role and get his confidence back up, at the very least work out what's going on with his running and see if some ground can be made up there, a full pre season and he might be a totally different player, as might david Swallow.

i'd say the same about Jack Trengove, Jack Watts and Jeremy Howe, doesn't mean they won't develop into three of the better players in the comp.

That's fine, but Rory Sloane is as good a player as Dustin Martin and not terrible on Culture, i'm very confident if we keep dangling the prospect of James Aish in front of the crows they will come to the party.

Sounds like we will get an end of 1st round PP now so that leaves us with 2,19,21 and somewhere around the 20-25 mark if Sylvia leaves. Pick 2 for Swallow pick 19- Zak Jones pick 21- Luke Dunstan pick 25- Blake Acres

Agree, when push comes to shove, Adelaide will offer Sloane in my opinion, they would kill to get their hands on Aish. and although some consider it overs, i'd be happy to pay that to get an experienced gun mid like Sloane on board.

I reckon he'll be there at 20, it's abit like Brodie Grundy, teams will have been looking at certain players for the first round all year and planning around that, I reckon all the teams will be hoping he slips to the second round and will pick up the blokes like Sheed who may slide abit with picks 10-20

Maybe so, but we are trying to build a culture so we can't afford to roll the dice yet while there are safer options going, wait til we're a strong team again, then we can look at risks like this.

you'd have to think it would cross his mind? haha surely he'd have mates constantly joking about it and stuff

The manager is probably not helping but i haven't heard many good things about Dusty, even the Richmond members i know are happy for him to just walk so for me it's not that surprising noone wants him, he needs to sort out his management quick smart. if Roosy feels he can sort him out he is a very talented player, infact i'd go as far as saying he is as talented as anyone on our list.

I like this concept alot, trading pick 2 for a good young player that will improve with our list and a high pick, pick 7 prob gets us a choice between Freeman ( who i liken to Dangerfield ) Crouch ( who i liken to Mitchell or Selwood ) Sheed ( Simon Black ) if we don't get Adams there is every indication those boys will become high quality players, and the thing they all have in common is they're ready to go.

I wonder how Aish is feeling right now, us throwing up pick number 2 he could end up just about anywhere, and for alot of the year he would have been getting himself used to the idea of moving to Melbourne.

To be perfectly honest i'd still just rather not have a dick head at our club haha, if he is willing to leave a club that's clearly on the rise bigtime to chase money from teams that are miles behind them it makes you ask questions of that persons mindset.

Correct, if they are making hand shake deals and as Richard says " gentlemans agreementes " about really talented players wouldn't that be Draft tampering and as bad as our tanking stuff?

Who are we supposed to be trying to poach that's contracted?

I have seen or heard somewhere that we offered him about the same deal as we offered Dawsy but that was back before we got Roos

I'm still of the opinion that Wines would not have looked as good at MFC as he did at Port this year, the support around the midfield, the leadership of the club and coaching is totally different, so from that viewpoint i am not doubting for a second taking Toumpas was the right call. Toumpas reminds me of a Travis Jonstone that works his ass off, but as others have said a huge confidence player, when he's up he will be way up, when he's down he might go missing a little but but i'm very confident he will be a star

Yeah that's exactly what i am suggesting, if the Hawks don't win the flag maybe it's time for a change, Clarko has been there a while and i know alot of Hawthorn supporters who are starting to doubt the teams ability to win big finals, although they got over that last night i reckon haha. but yeah, my suggestion is, if they don't win the flag from this position which imo they should, Freo are good but i'm not sure they will be good enough to beat Hawthorn in a grand final a tthe G then would they look at maybe installing Simpson simply because the change can sometimes help them take that extra step? don't get be wrong i'd much rather Simpson come to MFC but..

It's a professional sports industry, people get poached, coaches players it's just what happens you'd think old mate would have more to worry about like the fact they're playing imo the best team in the comp in perth tonight and it's gunna be a struggle.

Not really related to MFC but what do people reckon the future will hold for Al Clarkson if Hawthorn lose tonight? will they consider moving him on as that will be 3 big chances at premierships in 4 years wasted.