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Updated for Harmes trade and F3 pick. Also updated 2023 draft pick order.

Pick 46 is an insult given they also hold #33 (or whatever it is after compensation picks). Not that I think #33 is fair. We gave #27 last year and he hadn't played senior football for months partly due to injury and partly due to Collingwood not selecting him in the last 6 weeks of 2022. Grundy is now injury free and has played the whole VFL/AFL season showing he has fully recovered. We took a risk re his injury last year; there is no risk for Sydney.

Petty will be an FA at end of 2025 so can walk to a club of his choice and we would get a comp pick in the mid to high teens (assuming the comp pick is deemed to be first round). If he goes next year we can negotiate a better deal with Adelaide. Wouldn't want to lose him but if he helps us win a flag or two before he goes then so be it.

The F3 for Harmes will probably get us Fullarton. In terms of the list we need a fwd/ruck backup more than a depth midfielder so I reckon an F3 is a good result. Not to mention the sal cap saving. Having said that love Harmes and love his story of playing for his beloved Demons, the club he supported all his life and earning a flag with them. He lived every kid's dream!! He has come a long way since being rookied so really happy for him and what he has achieved. It wouldn't be easy for him to leave the Deesl. Good luck at the Bulldogs!

Trade demands have now reached ridiculous levels. On Koschitzke: "...out-of-contract 23-year-old has asked for a trade to Richmond, with the Tigers tipped to offer a late selection for the former No.52 draft pick who has kicked 54 goals from 48 career matches. But despite playing him just 12 times this past season the Hawks are asking for a pick around 25, according to multiple reports. Richmond has picks 27, 48 and 66. The Hawks are set to replace Koschitzke with Gold Coast’s Mabior Chol but are willing to offer a future third-round pick for the ex-Tiger. Hawthorn had offered Koschitzke a one-year deal at as little as $150,000, but after offering Chol four years with a trigger for a fifth, according to the Herald Sun’s Jon Ralph. My summary: Koschizke, who has played only half the games his season, is offered a one year deal at $150k and they want a mid second round pick but will only offer a future 3rd for a guy they have offered 4/5 years... I know it is Hawthorn's opening ambit but it is a great way of losing credibility. As an aside, for those that think all AFL players are highly paid take note of the offer to Koschitzke!!

In this article about Murphy nathan-murphy-could-be-forced-to-retire-concussion-history it says: "...the AFL’s general counsel Stephen Meade is expected to make a recommendation to Murphy imminently. The concussion panel earlier this year recommended Sydney’s Patrick McCartin retire after he’s suffered nine career concussions – including eight at St Kilda". I suspect this panel will play a role in Gus' future plans.

Edit: 'Boomer' age range is 59 to 77 so they represent approx 35% of DL per that poll. Discussion is in this thread

Thanks for info. Technically we may not have to promote Disco but it would be shocking optics and quite unfair to not do so. I would think that contract for promotion would already be signed.

May said at the start he probably had a few more drinks than he should have as he hadn't expected to be up there. So his filter was probably a bit askew! But we all loved it! Reckon the 'we should have smoked them' will be on McCrae's white board next KB game. It will go down in Dees vs Pies folklore like 'No duck no dinner'!!! Langdon and May have rekindled the fierce rivalry of the 50's and 60's!!! So bring on the next KB game - it should be a doozie! Lets hope we land the first punch, euphemistically speaking. Well, except for Maynard: some fierce tackling to make him earn each and every touch of the footy the 'old school way' will be in order!!! Give him back some of his medicine dispensed on Langdon and Gus.

Thanks heaps, guys. Your appreciation and that of other posters makes the effort worthwhile!

Thanks for that. If you see the 'veteran spot' confirmed let me know and I will adjust the chart. Yes, it is crazy to use 'Rookie' for Melksham. It matters not to his remuneration or selection but I reckon he deserves better.

During the year when I waded through other club(s) fan sites to do the 'What They Are Saying @...) threads, I noticed some referred to 'Demonland' as 'Boomerland'!! I laughed and laughed but thought better of mentioning it in those threads. The last few pages of this thread suggest this is a good place to drop their little pearl...' !!! 😉

The Contract thread is pinned at the top of the Demons Forum Link to the thread itself: The latest is discussed toward the end of the thread. I also put the latest at the top of page 1 of the thread for easy reference.

Latest changes: Added ND39 from the JJ move to Sydney Added Fullerton to the list Show the list changes identified, yet to be completed (names in blue) Melksham is staying. Yet to decide if it as a senior listed or rookie listed player. It probably won't be decided until time of the draft. It won't affect the list size, just the mix. My guess is he will be a rookie as we may need the senior list to cover all the departures. If that guess is correct the chart would show 3 senior and 1 A rookie list spot, That is a very tidy draft hand we hold!!

I Don't underestimate the fwd role at all nor what JvR did. Happy for the kid but that he got himself suspended when we needed him most devalues his year somewhat. That McVee is ahead of other defenders says he more than held his own without depending on May, Lever etc

McVee 5th after 16 rounds. Love JvR but reckon McVee deserves the Best Young Player outright!

Great to see my boy, McVee at equal 9th.❤️💙 A very consistent year so should be right up near the top 10 by the end. Best New Player Award has to be his!!!

Did you see our very own @Bitter but optimistic Perhaps you didn't recognise him if he was still wearing his 'KISS After Party' make up!! And, KISS would have fitted in well looking 'ghostly' white!!

Was he? He got only 6 Brownlow votes for the games before injury. Without checking I'm not sure he got many BOG coaches votes prior to injury. The reports about him leaving hospital, going for a run, self tattooing, going to an outside physio aren't examples of a team player. A lot has changed since 2021. Then he adopted for himself the motto 'to be a better teammate'. By various accounts that hasn't been the case in more recent times.

The trading process started late last week with the List Managers/Recruiters annual meeting to discuss their list status and trade posibilities. To flag mfc being 'open to a trade' all it had to do was leave Clarrie off the so called 'untouchables' list. Or there was some other mechanism at that meeting to flag mfc's position. Naturally, clubs started doing their homework. It was only a matter of time before the info reached Twomey and Beveridge. MFC didn't leak a possible Oliver trade - it is part of the trading process. This also answers the question of how other clubs came to know that mfc was open to trading him. It is worth noting that his management made no comment and the club has not denied the story. Clubs don't let Oliver type players go without exceptional reasons. We don't know what they are but shouldn't doubt that being open to trading him is the result of a long and considered process.

This is the best I could do. Couldn't find a suitable wig. Worth noting the collar is a good match!! I nearly put an after-party cocktail frock on Bbo so that he is suitably attired for that event but have run out of time. Probably just as well... As might be expected he is surreptitiously lurking in the background... I hope to God he doesn't see this as I doubt Luci will ever be forgiven...or he will make my life on DL pure hell... In case he does see this...it is...um...just a bit of fun...😉

From a long way out I thought this was our year. I was so confident we would be in the GF I booked a city hotel for this weekend. To enjoy the festivities, see the city awash with red and blue and make up for missing the fanfare in 2021. I'm still in disbelief that we aren't at the G today. I truly believe we should be there and my confidence wasn't misplaced; there was no way to predict the impact of thuggery and our appalling goal kicking. As it is now not a Coll vs Carl game I will watch it cosseted as it were at the home of Dees supporting friends. Having to barrack for Daniher and Zorko is rather sickening but there is no other way. Go Roy boys!!!!

Agreed. We are truly at the stage of anyone/anywhere. The only ground we haven't conquered is in Adelaide but right now the chances of playing there this year are few. Given our current form I reckon we would conquer that also!

Grundy just can't take a trick right now. A terrible faux pax by all involved: carrie-bickmore-apologises-to-brodie-grundy-over-mortifying-blunder Feeling a bit sad for him. It must be awful for him to watch Coll play in the GF. But then again not sure what he expected in the interview/chat.