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Happy to accept that title! 🙂😁🙃!

We got our revenge on Kelly and Geelong when we spoilt Corey Engright's 300th party, and twice in 2021: Max's goal after the siren to claim top spot and the shellacking we gave them in the 2021 PF. Let bygones, be bygones!

The AFL would not have the legal right to audit a 3rd party. Nor do they have the legal right to audit a player's personal financial/business dealings. Players would have elaborate company/trust/employee structures set up legally for their financial dealings. which would make 'follow the money' harder. The only party I see that can 'follow' the money' is the Aust Tax Office but they would need a reason to. Unlikely, as all the things I noted (plus others) would be legal. I often wonder why other clubs don't protest. Reckon it is because they have their own version of player/family perks. Freo and Eagles rumours have abounded for years.

None of such transactions would go thru Geelong's accounts. It would be via a third party and the AFL wouldn't have the right to audit it. Quite possible the 3rd party is a company or a trust. No hope there for the AFL to 'follow the money trail'. But it still needs to be a legal transfer. Potential to make money from the land: a 'peppercorn rent' to avoid it being purchased at market value. It could change legal status when the player retires. (DL legal eagles may confirm). the land may have potential for rezoning thus increasing its future value and a financial windfall. The player could create a farm thus allowing him to be classified as a 'primary producer' for income tax purposes. Given the types of expense deductions allowed and player marginal tax rate that would be a fairly juicy perk. There are other 3rd party perks rumoured for Geelong players and their families. I've long held the view that Geelong player salaries should be bench marked to the equivalent palyers in the league. That is really easy to do. The AFL should make them explain any significant deviations.

Echo chamber! A perfect description of AFL 'news'. Well done!

Very happy with that if that premiership is with the dees!!! .

I would say that is the reason. I was in the area on Friday and noticed it is about 2km from the Neerim Rd end to Caulfield station end. For those that don't know the area the Neerim Rd end is quite suburban. The station end has a pokies/sports type club (The Glasshouse) on the edge of the course and it is a short walk to various eateries on the NE side of the station. The club won't need to provide a social club/gathering place on site. Also, various tram lines are nearby. The station end will make it easier to keep admin and FD staff (and attract new ones) if using public transport otherwise they would face a decent walk. Ditto for fans. A home at last! Can't wait to congregate there on the day after another premiership ❤️💙 btw, thanks for keeping us updated.

You might like to transfer the discussion to this similar thread as discussion will most likely duplicate

Not sure which you are referring to. Its worth remembering AFL rules are that if a player wears club gear for a sponsor or ad, his payments are included in that club's sal cap. Not sure if there are AFL restrictions on when a player can wear club gear at public appearances. Practically the only real freedom players have to wear/post in club gear is training and games. To be fair to Tracc context should be relative to other high profile demons club/teammate related social media. And maybe he and other players want to keep communications with teammates private.

The dilemma for me is how to compare eras! Flower and Gawn have claims to the Best Demon but I've concluded it is Barassi! 6 x Premierships, 2 as captain 2 x Premiership BOG ie Norm Smith Medal equivalent 2 x BnF 2 x Leading Demon goal kicker (Somehow, I never knew this😲) 5 x Demon captain Widely recognised as the best player in the league and maybe GOAT. Never won a Brownlow most likely because teammates 'took' votes and probably not the fairest player. As an aside, there were no Demon winners during those glory demon days. AA and Coaches Awards weren't invented then. Would have won a few. Forgiven for leaving because he came back and to his last days was red and blue through and through. Can't split Flower and Gawn for a close 2nd spot. Both special, different talents. Both not recognised enough in the wider AFL community. Both brought joy in some not so successful years.

Kudos to Bailey Smith. Firstly, for opening up about his time in a psych clinic and getting through a dark time. Not an easy thing to admit anytime let alone before a national audience. Secondly, for winning the Coaches Award with Noah Anderson, having played 3 less games. Could take out the Brownlow but maybe the missed games will work against him.

Maybe Tracc congratulated Kozzie and Gawn via sms, phone, Whatsapp etc. We don't know so people shouldn't be so quick to criticise lack of instagram stuff. tbh, sms, phone or Whatsapp are more pesonal than instagram or other social media.

Fantastic! Thank you. Great advice from a clued in 75yo.🙃

Mr D, I prefer your quizzes! 🙃 But I'll play along anyway. Geelong to win 😟😭 Giants preferred (go Jessie ❤️💙, Captain Toby and Toby B)!

Radford going opens some soft cap space for a new assistant coach!

Thanks for the name. I agree it didn't work. But Shand and Crowe are very highly regarded, hence my rhetorical question whether the issue was internal resistance to change rather than the change agents.

Didn't we have a 'mind coach'/psyche join mfc as part of/after the Shand review. Can't recall the guy's name. Maybe he issue is our FD and players have resisted change rather than the change agents: 'mind coach', Shand, Rendall

fwiw our current list spots are: Senior: Zero A-rookie: 3 B-rookie: Zero

We can draft him with a natural pick. We just need to select him before anyone else! If above is correct that he is ranked in the 40 to 80 range there should be no problem having a late 2nd/early 3rd round pick available. In that range it makes little difference to matching a bid as an NGA with points.

dazzle, love that you give us footy snippets but for those of us that don't subscribe to the respective websites/social media platforms can you please give key points of the story! TIA

The AFL already protects some players from missing finals eg: HWSNBN Mark 11, Cripps, Cotchin and back a little while Barry Hall. I'm sure there are plenty of others. We don't need any more distortion of the MRO/Tribunal 'magic herbs and spices' decisions.

I like the romance of Bruce but would rather it be 'best available' regardless of who that person played for. Reckon the new coach will choose someone he has a relationship.

Jones, Bassett and Radford are OOC in 2026. I suspect they are on fairly low $$$ given lack of recent or any AFL coaching expereince. Chaplin also OOC next year. That gives the new coach time to assess them and if need be line up replacements as it may be difficult prising them out of other clubs this year. With the soft cap increasing I'm guessing the club will have the $$$ to add a senior assistant. End 2026 is when we see big changes to the coaching panel!

Does that mean the earlier comment that 'one problem is that Petracca is no longer a marking threat forward' is based on some games late in the season? Raynors average marks is fractionally lower than Petracca's this year and a fair amount lower across their careers.

Interesting the criticisms of May, Salem and Petracca scattered through this thread. I know the AF score isn't the be all, end all but the results are: 115 - Gawn, 106 - May, 104 - Petracca 103 - Naicos 101 - Oliver 100 - Salem Methinks too many posters let their emotions override their objectivity when assessing our players. I will be very surprised if Petracca isn't in the top 3 in the BnF and Salem in the 5 - 10 range. May hasn't played enough games to be highly ranked. Yet people want them shipped out!