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The irony is we were the team without match fitness against GWS, let Green dominate and surrendered the game. Every chance GCS are that team today. We need to curb the play makers like Green. Tactically, today I think it will be Rowell especially at CB and fwd half stoppages. A job for Viney and or Swallow ... We also need tactics to stop Mac Andrew copying Comben last week (@Demonstone please note spelling 😁). A good decoy job for Melksham and tell the players to ignore Melksham and keep Andrew away from the play to not intercept. Last quarter fade outs have been our undoing for nearly a year. I truly think that if there are no passengers we have good tactics and we play the full 4 qtrs we will win ... Is that asking too much ... 🤔

Look at the table on page 1 of this thread. George updates it fairly regularly.

On first reading I thought that said no sense at all !😉

Dees WILL WIN by 17 points! Our home ground Suns not 'match fit' - no games played this season; the round 1 training/practice game vs WCE doesn't count. Backs-to-the-wall demons will come out fighting like rnd 23, 2024 Stage set for a mighty come back by our beloved demons! We've lost Lever since I posted the above yesterday but TMac comes in. Play with grit and intent for 4 quarters and I still think we win !!!

Just to let everyone know that the fund raising goal has been reached: $565 added today!!! I'm sure @Demonland will be very pleased. Had a chuckle about the 1 cent added to their donation by one D'lander ! 👏🏻🙃

Like @daisycutter I didn't need to login. I went straight into the Forum and everything went smoothly from there. I use a PC with Firefox. I haven't tried to log out - just in case it gets all fussy and won't let me back in 😉

This is one for @Demonland

Very good point on donation. For those that can https://demonland.com/clients/donations/ and help get to the goal: Raised 1,435.00 AUD of 2,000.00 AUD target

You will miss the real-time excitement of a stirring Demons victory!

Dees WILL WIN by 17 points! Our home ground Suns not 'match fit' - no games played this season; the round 1 training/practice game vs WCE doesn't count. Backs-to-the-wall demons will come out fighting like rnd 23, 2024 Stage set for a mighty come back by our beloved demons!

btw, I couldn't find who is currently reading/writing in a thread which had been at the bottom of the thread. Is it somewhere else?

👏💪🏻 👏🏻Excellent work Andy @Demonland and @Nasher I've 'road tested' a few features I often use and they work as usual or are better!!! In particular: Love the GIF's : Really like that the text of a quoted post is in red so easy to separate from the comment Having the Menu down the side makes it so much easier to navigate the site. (I couldn't work out what the 'Threads' menu option was about? No biggie, just curious) Thank you. ps I noticed the colour of the emoji's changed ... again no biggie

We want to give Mac Andrew intercept marking practice ... 🤷‍♀️

I think we need a different mix of Assistant coaches and a new GM Football rather than a Goodwin replacement. Wouldn't mind Craig Jennings back but unfortunately they seemed to fall out in 2019. He is eccentric and a bit quirky but imv was very good for us and previously, WBD. He has been at GWS as defence coach and now Midfield/Transition coach. As an aside the GWS coaching mix and structure is really interesting with high calibre incumberns: https://www.gwsgiants.com.au/teams/coaching-staff

Fair comments. For me it is about balance. One can be vulnerable but still show strength to at some point move out of the vulnerable stage and show confidence about the future. I don't mind us being on a journey but it would be good to have a leader with a clear plan who shows confidence in how to get there. I suspect Goodwin has that but he isn't talking about it much since the start of the season. I don't think there is lack of empathy from posters. They are just saying that now 3 weeks into the season, it is time to move on from the vulnerable stage. Or if we haven't moved on best to balance the commentary with confidence in the future without too many platitudes.

Or the coaching staff haven't adequately explained/taught the alternative method that is easily understood by and that all players buy into. So players are confused ... that is how they look to me.

I agree with the Petracca reference but that is now ancient history. Petracca has moved on. Goodwin seems to talk about 'love' in every interview regardless of the context. As they say in the classics: talk is cheap! Time to stop trying to convince everyone the club is a loving place.

Why is anyone surprised our mids just bomb it forward! Our midfield coach was a fierce, get ball bomb it forward midfielder. Loved that about him and his dedication to the club. That style worked in 2018 and 2021. But Jones has no experience with any other game style or ball movement method. He was a champion player and will always be a club champion but not sure he has the experience or creativity to support Goodwin implementing a new game style. Sadly, I think we are back in the 2020 situation where Goodwin doesn't have the mix of and experienced assistants with knowledge of how to implement change and how to succeed. From what I can tell we don't have a strategy type coach or a ball movement coach. Fairly critical I would have thought to communicate and implement a new style. It is one thing to want to change, quite another to make it happen. And imv we look and sound confused, on and off the field.

Caroline Wilson can be a pain but she rarely gets her facts wrong. The worrying part was the Steve Smith response to the list of candidates the Board presented to him: Underwhelming!

Did he say anything about winning? I fear the 'love' mantra is the club's 2025 buzzword that 'culture' was last year. I'm already tired of hearing it. Its being overplayed and pretty soon the 'love' talk will be ridiculed by fans and the media just as the 'culture' narrative was ridiculed last year. Time for football to do the talking.

I didn't say they would. My point was I can't see Goodwin willingly trading any of them out. Can you?

I was concerned with the Gawn, Lever and Viney contracts. In part because of their injury history albeit they make herculean efforts to play week in and week out. And the Gawn and Viney contracts looked hasty or a PR exercise as they were both still contracted. But their bodies have a 'used by date' and likely to be before 2027 and 2028. None of us want to see their latter years played at Casey. The alternatives are: to retire them early, persevere in the seniors or do a Hawthorn style fire sale of their champions (Hodge, Michell, Lewis) for peanuts and heartbreak for fans. They then traded Gunston (3 x Flags) and Tom Mitchell (Brownlow) while they had some trade currency. Can't see Goodwin do anything like that as he loves all players, especially Gawn, Viney and Oliver. He is not going to trade any of them and he is unlikely to trade Lever or Petracca. Nor do I want them traded; just saying some might have to be for the good of the club and growth of young players. Some people will highlight players can go on to their mid 30's etc but rarely so many in the same team at the same time. Even while in the premiership window we couldn't attract/keep players (eg ruckmen, mids) as they are down the line behind the above players and have to play at Casey. Attracting key players won't get any easier in 2, 3, 4 years time. Meanwhile, how many other players will leave for lack of opportunity... btw, I'm not suggesting Goodwin should go now. But our GM Football and or our new CEO need to ask some hard questions about list management over the coming years. Now that I think about it, it won't be the GM Football as he was party to all the contracts.

Yes I did as I have with Fritsch. But one learns and I eventually accepted there wasn't a place for Watts' style in a our team. Which is why I find Fritsch so frustrating - he could contribute so much more to the team. Ironically, Fritsch is who we chose with the trade pick we got for Jack. I sincerely hope he doesn't suffer the same fate.

I guess we can pull isolated stats all day long but one stat doesn't tell the full story. If he was involved more then perhaps others would kick the goals when he isn't. Yes, I was at the game. I saw him attempt to tackle or chase etc but my point was he lacked intent. As it was he had only 3 tackles. Not sure he acutally chased down anyone or even got close enough to lunge at them. I don't have the stats for the 1% things but to me looked half hearted. I'm not sure there is a lot of point bogging this thread down with a Fritsch discussion. I've made my points so will leave it at that.

It is easy to be the top when there is no competition. In his career he has had two good years: 2021 and 2022 which were two years when we went deep into the finals. Given our i50's it isn't lack of opportunity for either goal scoring, goal assists or i50 pressure. He has a good goals cameo every now and then and that seems to be enough for him. I have been a fan but that is wearing thin especially as he did nothing last week, in his own milestone game. If he can't chase, tackle and play with intent in such a game, when the win was there for the taking, will he ever...🤷‍♀️ I hate to say it but he is becoming Jack Watts mark 11.